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Real0ne -> RE: Trump's Greatest Campaign Speech (10/27/2016 10:13:21 PM)
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and he is a business wizkid that gets shit done ahead of schedule and under budget and has turned gubmint disasters into highly profitiable enterprizes, contrary to CRIMINAL hillary that everything she and billy touched turned into nightmares for the american people. Its laughable that you would compare hium to hitler and germany, you obviously have no clue what its about today and certainly no clue what it was about in ww2 since the US and Britain started both world wars and hitler was merely played as a pawn.
Why dont you tell us about honest hillarys [un]successes that she has done for this country or is that all you have is PC Drivel?
No, I never compared Trump to Hitler, I compared Trump's supporters to Hitler's supporters...
but since you brought that comparison up,.. Hitler promised to "make Germany great again", and Trump is saying the same thing with America..
Hitler promised to overturn the Treaty of Versailles.. Trump wants to overturn NAFTA & trade agreements
Hitler promised to create/grow the military.. Trump says more $$$ for military, more weapons, etc
Hitler promised to reduce unemployment.. Trump promises the same and "bring jobs back to America".. (except for his own Visa workers, of course)
Hitler appealed to businesses who were afraid of unions & communism.. Trump appeals to business, the 1% etc by promising to cut taxes in half..
Same carrots for those stupid enough to believe Trump, as those that believed Hitler..
And, yet again, I have to restate (as I have many, many times before) that I hate Hillary with a passion & have for many years (since she falsely claimed the 9/11 terrorists came from/thru Canada) but leave it to America to find someone worse than her!!!
Did you actually just compare the Treaty of Versailles to trade agreements?
only that they were written agreements made between countries.. and promises made by Hitler and Trump to get elected.. both promised what they can't deliver..
The Treaty of Versailles was the peace settlement
The treaty was signed on June 28th 1919 after months of argument and negotiation amongst the so-called “Big Three” as to what the treaty should contain.
Who were the “Big Three” and where did they clash over Germany and her treatment after the war ?
The “Big Three” were David Lloyd George of Britain, Clemenceau of France and Woodrow Wilson of America.
Georges Clemenceau was the senior French representative at the Versailles settlement. Georges Clemenceau wanted the terms of Versailles to smash Germany, whereas David Lloyd George of Britain privately wanted a non-emotive approach to Germany’s punishment at Versailles.
Lloyd George was Britain’s senior representative at the Versailles settlement. He had put himself into a difficult political position. On the one hand, his public image was that Germany should be smashed and that those responsible for waging war should be held to account. This fitted in with the huge anger directed against the Germans that was felt in Britain at this time.
The victors from World War One were in no mood to be charitable to the defeated nations and Germany in particular was held responsible for the war and its consequences.
the three main nations in the lead up to the treaty were far from united on how Germany should be treated. The eventual treaty seemed to satisfy everyone on the sides of the Allies.
The following land was taken away from Germany :
Alsace-Lorraine (given to France)
Eupen and Malmedy (given to Belgium)
Northern Schleswig (given to Denmark)
Hultschin (given to Czechoslovakia)
West Prussia, Posen and Upper Silesia (given to Poland)
The Saar, Danzig and Memel were put under the control of the League of Nations and the people of these regions would be allowed to vote to stay in Germany or not in a future referendum.
The League of Nations also took control of Germany’s overseas colonies.
Germany had to return to Russia land taken in the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. Some of this land was made into new states : Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia. An enlarged Poland also received some of this land.
The loss of vital industrial territory would be a severe blow to any attempts by Germany to rebuild her economy. Coal from the Saar and Upper Silesia in particular was a vital economic loss. Combined with the financial penalties linked to reparations, it seemed clear to Germany that the Allies wanted nothing else but to bankrupt her.
Germany was also forbidden to unite with Austria to form one superstate, in an attempt to keep her economic potential to a minimum.
Germany had to admit full responsibility for starting the war. This was Clause 231 – the infamous “War Guilt Clause”. 2. Germany, as she was responsible for starting the war as stated in clause 231, was, therefore responsible for all the war damage caused by the First World War. Therefore, she had to pay reparations, the bulk of which would go to France and Belgium to pay for the damage done to the infrastructure of both countries by the war. Quite literally, reparations would be used to pay for the damage to be repaired. Payment could be in kind or cash. The figure was not set at Versailles – it was to be determined later. The Germans were told to write a blank cheque which the Allies would cash when it suited them. The figure was eventually put at £6,600 million – a huge sum of money well beyond Germany’s ability to pay.
After agreeing to the Armistice in November 1918, the Germans had been convinced that they would be consulted by the Allies on the contents of the Treaty. This did not happen and the Germans were in no position to continue the war as her army had all but disintegrated. Though this lack of consultation angered them, there was nothing they could do about it. Therefore, the first time that the German representatives saw the terms of the Treaty was just weeks before they were due to sign it in the Hall of Mirrors at the Palace of Versailles on June 28th 1919.
There was anger throughout Germany when the terms were made public. The Treaty became known as a Diktat – as it was being forced on them and the Germans had no choice but to sign it. Many in Germany did not want the Treaty signed, but the representatives there knew that they had no choice as Germany was incapable of restarting the war again.
In one last gesture of defiance, the captured German naval force held at Scapa Flow (north of Scotland) scuttled itself i.e. deliberately sank itself.
Germany was given two choices:
1) sign the Treaty or
2) be invaded by the Allies.
They signed the Treaty as in reality they had no choice. When the ceremony was over, Clemenceau went out into the gardens of Versailles and said “It is a beautiful day”.
Germany did not attend any treaty negotiations and the asswipe UK simply said sign this fuckers or we will destroy even more of our country and here you are talking like Germany happily agreed to it so whats the bitch.
The brits fucked germany coming and fucked germany going and germany was supposed to be happy abou it.
Hitler had nothing to do with the treaty of versailles, it was all about the asswipe brits just like it is now with asswipe brit hillary fucking us over.
yeh trade agreements LOL
Of course you would welcome being forced to sign a peace treaty drawn up 3 foreign countries that you had no say in that bankrupts you.
The treaties Trump is against are the shitty TRADE treaties created by and signed by the US, not PEACE treaties made by 3 foreign gubmints and forced upon america.
Your comparisons are completely bogus not to mention ridiculous showing a total lack of knowledge of history or the present situation under discussion.
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