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Chaska -> Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 8:51:14 PM)

Donald Trump is going to win on November 8th and the moment when this election turned from seeming defeat to certain victory will be the least expected and one of the most derisively attacked moments of his campaign. During the third debate when Trump said on being asked if he would accept the election results, "I will look at it at the time" the election was his. The uproar on both sides of the political spectrum has been an avalanche of criticism; this was Trump at his worst, the dooming moment of a quixotic and egomaniacal campaign. Or was it?

Decisiveness and boldness don’t always result in a victory on the field of battle but indecisiveness and hesitation, in the moment of crisis, most assuredly will result in inglorious defeat. Trump has been called a lot of things, probably the most flattering among, even his allies, is that he is a good “entertainer.” For political acumen, he might be given a 2, and that would be the score given by his friends. But too many have all missed something that Trump has seen since the beginning.

Trump is reading something different, a mood and frustration in this country that is not just confined to some 32%. The country is heading in the wrong direction, we on the right know that, but in fact, almost 70% of Americans overall sense that. And that is not just an indictment of the Obama years; it is an indictment of the entire bipartisan political class.

This election is not being run for the pundits, the media, the conservative gadflies and hangers on, the consultants and wise thinkers who tut-tut continually on television about how Trump, “just can’t do it this way,” he must pivot and be “presidential” and discuss nothing but the issues.

One radio pundit said that Trump obscured his otherwise solid speech on Obamacare by mentioning the “rigged” election. She went on to say that the national media only cover the segment on the rigged election and not the “substantive” part of the speech on Obamacare. For being smart pundits, they sure have one hell of a huge blindside. First of all, the main stream media would never exclusively cover a part of a speech that rips into Obamacare, it would never happen. The speech would be completely ignored, so therefore Trump gets zero coverage. His base gets a policy speech; the rest of the country gets darkness. Instead, CNN and the rest report on the rigged part and give Trump prime coverage. They think this makes Trump look and sounds like a fool and loon. But they aren’t the audience and Trump is not looking for approval from the D.C. to New York elites.

The middle of the country, already restive and suspicions of anything and everything that has to do with Washington D.C., hears Trump railing against the corrupt system and how we need to “clean house.” What is so arrogantly dismissed by the chattering elite class as bar room “unsophisticated” rhetoric, is hitting the voters across the country like a breath of fresh air and a lot of “you’re damn right, Trump!” exhortations.

There is another audience here as well; Trump is not a Republican in any sense of what we are used to. He is really nonpolitical, so his audience, again, is not the Paul Ryan-Mitt Romney class, but the dissatisfied, concerned, pissed off, and anyone else who feels the country is going in the wrong direction. And remember, that number is upwards of 70%, which obviously includes a lot of independents and Democrats. And, not to be forgotten, it includes the millions of Bernie Sanders supporters. When he says the system is rigged, he is reaching across to those millions who felt that Bernie was their savior. While Bernie went weak in the knees in one of the greatest capitulations in political history, his supporters naively thought that he and their movement stood for something. Maybe Bernie wasn’t up to the fight, but his millions were, and still are. And let’s face it, outside of very few bought and sold Clintonites, the Democratic Party Primary was completely rigged against Bernie. Everyone knows it, the folks who felt the Bern, most of all. Trump knows this as well and he is using it to reach this audience. Will they vote for Trump? Probably only a few, but what it has done, in conjunction with the leaked DNC emails, has stoked an already visceral hatred of Hillary among the Bernie movement. They may stay home, they may vote for Jill Stein or they may vote for Trump, but very, very few will turn out for the corrupt Hillary.

Trump is not playing by the usual rules, he refuses to buckle and play as the good Republican Marquess of Queensberry candidate just so he can end up as road kill under a rancid, corrupt Democratic attack machine. It is funny that so many who stood by him and rooted for him have also gone weak in the last days, just as the battle is engaged. History is full of examples of the flinch, the pause and hesitation, the worry that the risk of total catastrophe is so great that one must wait and pull back. But the reward in this case is the saving of our country.

Trump, for all the bluster and bluff knows this and can see the path to restoring our Republic. Yes, he has the, dare I say, political vision. But even more critically, he has the boldness to strike when least expected, against all odds in the quest for victory, even if the Lieutenants around him are feeling the jiggle in their spine.



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heavyblinker -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 9:00:36 PM)

Right wing propaganda website writes right wing propaganda.




Chaska -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 9:39:56 PM)

Of course there is no propaganda from the left. [8|]

Includes name-calling, manipulated statistics, and other techniques. The media's favorite is the bandwagon effect. This tactic appeals to people's desire to be on the winning team ("voters abandoning Donald Trump in droves" and "Hillary's running away with the election").





heavyblinker -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 9:54:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Chaska

Of course there is no propaganda from the left. [8|]

Includes name-calling, manipulated statistics, and other techniques. The media's favorite is the bandwagon effect. This tactic appeals to people's desire to be on the winning team ("voters abandoning Donald Trump in droves" and "Hillary's running away with the election").




I was talking about the article you posted... but hey, nice straw man.




Greta75 -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 9:55:29 PM)

Time is drawing close!
Leftie Media all keeps projecting doom and gloom for Trump. 70% loss. While Fox says in the polls, he is rising again and only 3 points behind.

Interesting to see who is the lying media in the end.




heavyblinker -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 9:59:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

Time is drawing close!
Leftie Media all keeps projecting doom and gloom for Trump. 70% loss. While Fox says in the polls, he is rising again and only 3 points behind.

Interesting to see who is the lying media in the end.



Fox also predicted a Romney landslide in 2012.




tamaka -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 10:04:37 PM)

It is still possible that neither Trump nor Hillary will win.




Greta75 -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 10:26:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
Fox also predicted a Romney landslide in 2012.

I didn't like Obama, but I didn't like Mittens even more!
Last election, it was clear as night and day, Obama would win, power of minorities support and probably alot of African Americans who never bothered voting in the past will come out in full support.
Mittens is sooo unlikeable!

But this election, not so.

Talking about the dumb Mittens, the man is too cowardly to run against Trump, and then now he talks about how he should have run!

This is not a leader.

It's interesting my PM was interviewed about the American Elections and he predicted that Clinton will break every promises she makes if she is elected and I think he is right.
He didn't say that about Trump.




popeye1250 -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 11:01:38 PM)

Wiki has come out with thousands of pages about the ~evil~ Hillary Clinton. Bribery, intimidation, taking money from foreign countries when she was S.O.S and on and on!
Oh, and have they found the $6B that "went missing " at the State Dept while she was at the helm?




Chaska -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 11:11:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: Chaska

Of course there is no propaganda from the left. [8|]

Includes name-calling, manipulated statistics, and other techniques. The media's favorite is the bandwagon effect. This tactic appeals to people's desire to be on the winning team ("voters abandoning Donald Trump in droves" and "Hillary's running away with the election").




I was talking about the article you posted... but hey, nice straw man.

Since you brought up propaganda it's relevant.

Then there is Robert Creamer an ex-con and Democratic operative, here is an exert form his book
Stand Up Straight! How Progressives can Win:

In general our strategic goal with people who have become conservative activists is not to convert them—that isn’t going to happen. It is to demoralize them—to ‘deactivate’ them. We need to deflate their enthusiasm, to make them lose their ardor and above all their self-confidence…[A] way to demoralize conservative activists is to surround them with the echo chamber of our positions and assumptions. We need to make them feel that they are not mainstream, to make them feel isolated… We must isolate them ideologically…[and] use the progressive echo chamber…By defeating them and isolating them ideologically, we demoralize conservative activists directly. Then they begin to quarrel among themselves or blame each other for defeat in isolation, and that demoralizes them further.

Then there is this:

Democratic Party operative Robert Creamer used terror to wage war on honesty. Until forced to resign his post as a “consultant” with a Democratic Party-aligned organization named Americans United for Change, Creamer ran what amounts to a domestic U.S. political terror and propaganda operation dedicated to undermining the 2016 U.S. presidential election—“rigging the election,” to use the current term.

Yes, Creamer’s operation uses terror—and three investigative videos recently released by Project Veritas contain information supporting my assessment.

(“Rigging The Election,” Part One, Part Two and Part Three, released October 24).

Creamer resigned as an official consultant because Part One and Part Two exposed him. His operation, however, remains active and continues to do damage. The election rigging scheme he commanded relies on street thuggery. That means physical fear—terror—is a core component of Americans United for Change’s crooked enterprise. Street thuggery is very low-level terrorism, but it is a type of terrorism nonetheless and it is wrong to call it otherwise. Hardboy muscle, bottles and two by fours are street thuggery’s kinetics. Bottles and baseball bats are not Al Qaeda’s high explosives—but they incite fear and when they crack heads they cause casualties. People bleed. Street thuggery as an arm of politics is violent, criminalized politics on an ugly downward slope to much worse, the worse including lynchings and pogroms. If you don’t think street thuggery is terror then consider Kristalnacht.

Creamer and his despicable compadres haven’t killed anyone, not yet. But this year Creamer and his operatives have used the terror of actual physical attack and a supporting suite of provocation tactics (threat tactics) to successfully shatter several lawful political rallies held by Republican candidates. Creamer’s media component insures that the violence committed by Creamer thugs and the violence they provoked generates sensational violent imagery and sensational reports of violence for dissemination by other media. The result is sensational propaganda benefiting the Democratic Party and its fawning media. See those Republicans? See the violence??!!

A vicious enterprise? Yes, through and through. The despicable scheme wages all-out war on honesty.

More here




Real0ne -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 11:12:06 PM)

sure but we have a country of pc'ers whose witto feewings are hurt so day gonna bote for hillary so day feeewl better.




epiphiny43 -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 11:35:36 PM)

Someone 'found' the missing $6 B. Seems the anti-HRC article writers neglected to actually read the report. Or more likely, just more random shit thrown on the wall to see who believes it. Almost everyone, it seems? No missing money. Over $200 Billion handled during HRC's State tenure. About $6 B of that has 'incomplete' paper work, not money missing. From incomplete original documentation when the projects were approved to missing signatures recently. Most of the money is related to the Iraq 'country building' and later military withdrawal stinking mess of scamming done by Iraqis con artists and Americans 'businessmen'. The money isn't missing, but the US taxpayer took a bath, starting with the original re-entry into the Iraq quagmire. The cost of the SCOTUS OKing the stealing of a presidential election is another gift that just keeps giving.




DomStrictMale -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 11:38:28 PM)

The GOP began cratering when Ronnie Raygun sold out to the Moral Majority and Jerry Falwell to get a few more votes. Then two disastrous Bush's, with W. pretty much ruining a good part of the world, the economy and the rule of law. Then nutcases like Palin, Bachmann, Christine O'Donnell et al started scurrying around because the realized the average Republican voter has a very low IQ, is oblivious to facts, science, logic and common sense.....and here we are with "Richie Rich" Trump...the most worthless human being on the planet.

November 8th is going to be fun. :)




Lucylastic -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 11:44:52 PM)

For me, its never been a question of can he win
LOL
Of course he can win.
Thats what makes it so pitiful.




epiphiny43 -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 11:49:12 PM)

Several polls suggest somewhere between 40 and 60% of Trump supporters 'won't accept' a Dem victory on the 8th. So, I'm wondering where they'll move to if they don't like how American Elections are run? Canada? Nah, even more open and transparent. Maybe get to Mexico before Mexico builds a wall to keep them out? Trump supporters will Love Mexican elections. Pretty much richest guy wins, every time.




Chaska -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 11:50:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomStrictMale

The GOP began cratering when Ronnie Raygun sold out to the Moral Majority and Jerry Falwell to get a few more votes. Then two disastrous Bush's, with W. pretty much ruining a good part of the world, the economy and the rule of law. Then nutcases like Palin, Bachmann, Christine O'Donnell et al started scurrying around because the realized the average Republican voter has a very low IQ, is oblivious to facts, science, logic and common sense.....and here we are with "Richie Rich" Trump...the most worthless human being on the planet.

November 8th is going to be fun. :)

Bullshit, Just how is it that you know the IQ of voters when you don't know them.




Lucylastic -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 11:56:35 PM)

some people poll by education level
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-08-12/education-level-sharply-divides-clinton-trump-race




MrRodgers -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/27/2016 11:59:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: epiphiny43

Someone 'found' the missing $6 B. Seems the anti-HRC article writers neglected to actually read the report. Or more likely, just more random shit thrown on the wall to see who believes it. Almost everyone, it seems? No missing money. Over $200 Billion handled during HRC's State tenure. About $6 B of that has 'incomplete' paper work, not money missing. From incomplete original documentation when the projects were approved to missing signatures recently. Most of the money is related to the Iraq 'country building' and later military withdrawal stinking mess of scamming done by Iraqis con artists and Americans 'businessmen'. The money isn't missing, but the US taxpayer took a bath, starting with the original re-entry into the Iraq quagmire. The cost of the SCOTUS OKing the stealing of a presidential election is another gift that just keeps giving.

Hey they (the American capitalist) are here to make some fucking money and no, [they] don't give a fuck how they...go about doing it.




Termyn8or -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/28/2016 12:10:16 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

some people poll by education level
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-08-12/education-level-sharply-divides-clinton-trump-race


So you think going to school longer makes you smarter ?

T^T




Lucylastic -> RE: Why Trump Will Win (10/28/2016 12:14:23 AM)

now where did I say anything close to that???
oh...I didnt...strange that...




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