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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/5/2016 8:15:31 PM   
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Looks like Awareness has found his soulmate.


There's millions of us out here... they just don't spend time in your little cliquey neighborhood here.

Why yes there are millions of idiots out there. Thank you for confirming that.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/5/2016 8:20:43 PM   
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Call me whatever you want. I don't care how you want to label it. For me it's the principle of the thing. My worldview on men and women is much different than most people here and i wouldn't change it to come down to the cesspool of weakness being created by all of the enablers that think they are righteous when in fact they are... not.


Spoken like the true ignorant bigot that you are.......................

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/5/2016 9:49:37 PM   
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No I'm saying that there are men... and there are women.
Unfortunately we've kind of lost sight of that with all the education we've been getting... we're now so smart that we are losing our minds.


Actually tamaka, there ARE 2 kinds of men-- jocks and nerds.
It is the duty of the jocks to give the nerds a hard time.

This is the most basic truth of the universe and if you disagree you are obviously either too smart or too stupid.

Seriously though, I'm guessing you're one of those 'book smart' people who knows how to pass the tests but hasn't really developed a lot of independent critical thinking skills... because you're essentially projecting your own stereotypical vision of what men and women are 'supposed to be' onto the world as opposed to looking at the world and saying 'hey, maybe there's more to it than that'.

Believe it or not, you don't have all the answers... nobody does. You need to take people on a case-by-case basis.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 4:31:44 AM   
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Well of course you would... you are a sadist right? ; )
Just fyi, i am the kind of person that would be willing to state my opinion to a group of people in real life even though i know they won't agree and probably have a negative reaction to my thoughts. I have done so in a church group situation, many different work situations, at school many times, and even in a court of law when a lawyer was trying to intimidate me in front of a judge about my lifestyle (i had a rather ugly divorce). I'm proud to say i did so well people told me i should have been a lawyer afterwards. Anyways, point being i've done it many times and i would do it again but honestly it would really have to be worth it... and these days i am more interested in serving my Master well than dealing with people that are just going to cause me grief.

I am going to apologize for leaving this hang mid-conversation. For all of the clap trap that one of our posters goes on and on about none of the people on the site get out to the kink community, some of us actually do.

Which is part of the problem that I have with this. I literally just don't see this attitude in the local community much. It's also fair to throw in here when I say local, I've lived several different places in the last fifteen years and this subject hasn't changed much from place to place. I'm not saying it's completely non-existent. However, the times that I do see it, which is rare, it's usually from some folks who just aren't as secure in what some people call 'social Dominance' as what they are trying to portray. Female Dominants are rather aware of this type, because those are the guys who peacock around in public, yet they are the same ones who will email Dommes because they (secretly) want to experience submission.

I'm not saying this is how you formed your opinion of male subs, but I'd absolutely tell people not to form an opinion based on what they encounter on CM (for the most part). A lot of people who stumble on this place don't have a clue about their own footing yet, so they confuse that with the stereotypes that they see in porn. I won't fault the porn producers for it (hey, if I were producing porn, I'd be making the stuff that makes a buck, too) because that "lowly worm" stuff sells, even though it's a major turn off to most Dominant women.

I am going to apologize for calling you a coward. I don't know you from Adam, so I probably shouldn't have done that. While I'd really prefer to think that anyone wouldn't have some kind of disdain for a category of people based on whatever preconceived notions they've got, I really don't know if you would be the type of person to express those views in public. I will stand by my assertion that most people who do so on the net really don't have the balls to say it in public.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 5:58:43 AM   
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Call me whatever you want. I don't care how you want to label it. For me it's the principle of the thing. My worldview on men and women is much different than most people here and i wouldn't change it to come down to the cesspool of weakness being created by all of the enablers that think they are righteous when in fact they are... not.


Is it snowing up on that pedestal of righteousness of yours, because it sure is high up there.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 7:48:32 AM   
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I am surprise honestly that you aren't being positive about some of the women here sticking up for submissive males?

I mean, considering you do spend alot of time supporting RM point of view, and how feminists are trying oppress men.
No. I point out that feminists are full of shit and hypocritical to boot. I don't think they're trying to oppress men, I think they're trying to gain power and are lying through their fucking teeth to do so.



I agree with that as one motivation.

The other factor i don't think many of them realize themselves is that they are enablers.

It's not so much being enablers as being willing to take advantage of people instead of focusing on lifting them up and helping them to be the best version of themselves they possibly can.

Feminism is a toxic cocktail of failure, deception and self-interest. Every single time feminism has the opportunity to advocate for equitable outcomes, it mysteriously manages to only advocate for outcomes which gain advantage for women. It is a textbook example of the sexism it supposedly fights.


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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 7:50:01 AM   
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Good lord you are an angry little one, aren't you?
Ye Gods, you're a mentally-ill, dishonest, rather stupid little one aren't you.


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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 8:19:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Show me the decent conversation which was already underway, because it sure as shit looked like a fucking lynch mob to me.

I don't think it started as a bad thread. Granted, I'm not particularly a fan of the original poster because, at this point, I would have thought he'd gotten some things through his head. That's even with me conceding the point that LA is one of the biggest money-driven related places about kink in the continental United States. (I'm not talking about the crap that you see on the net, either.)

Personally, I felt the original was another 'why do women want to be paid for X if we really want the same things' type of deal, without the grasp of understanding that, just because certain people enjoy activity X, doesn't mean they want to engage in it with whomever. Due to the fact that it's basically the same kind of broken record thread from this particular OP, thread drift was damn near a guarantee.
I'm not talking about the original thread, I'm talking about the pile-on which began on page 6 because someone dared to defy the group-think which characterises this particular clique of uninformed fucking idiots.


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Fucking horseshit. Someone expressing an opinion of their own is not telling other people how to live. You need to learn the difference between oppression and fucking censorship. You've got mutually opposing viewpoints, but only ONE side is allowed to express their views? The side which dominates the entire conversation in this place?

Yeah. Believe it or not, I actually LIKE that stuff that's in the guidelines about attempting to not insult the kinks, preferences, lifestyles, etc of others. Same sh^t was happening around here when a certain poster was attacking people for their sexual orientation.
LP, that is self-righteous fucking horseshit. The idea that kink or sexuality is a sacred cow is an explanation of convenience. People insult each other here all fucking day over all fucking things including beliefs, appearance, height, weight, choices and opinions. In contrast someone expressed an opinion, shared an aspect of their belief and got dog-piled on by a bunch of hypocrites - including yourself.

There is no rational justification for the constant stream of personal insults which characterises most of the pseudo-dialogue in this place. I tend to confine my own invective to insults about people's behaviour - mainly because a lot of the self-delusion in here is truly egregious. As I pointed out earlier - and which was missed by the crowd of sub-100 IQ idiots in this place - belief about male subs is a consequence of someone's personal philosophy around men, women and gender.

Explain to me why every other insult in this place is fair game, but once you insult the rationale of the Holy Male Sub, all of a sudden you feel entitled to be self-righteous?


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Oh, I see, so despising - for example - padeophiles makes me a bigot, does it?

No, that's just you attempting to twist words and be a dick. If you really think that kiddie diddlers are in the same category as grown people making their own conscious decisions about their life choices, (i.e., actual consent) might I suggest to you some inner reflection.
You made a blanket statement, and I gave an example of how it's not true. I didn't equate the two and you should be smarter than this.


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There are valid reasons, it's just that you don't think they're valid. And you're not a man, so you can't understand our instinctive response to men who emasculate themselves or let others do it for them. You'd probably just attribute it to "toxic masculinity" the way Uggo does. Mind you, she attributes every perceived negative outcome for women as "toxic masculinity", so this is not exactly a unique case.

You'll have to forgive me. I seem to be a little behind the times about what's happened regarding nicknames. If you'd like to clue me in on exactly who Uggo is, it would be appreciated. Personally, I can't say I recall having ever used the term "toxic masculinity," so you can go pick that fight with the person who did.
Uggo, the (allegedly) Australian pseudo-scientist who claims to have a PHD in "Gender studies".

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We've been here before. I don't really think you have a good grasp on what is out there in the "real world" in regard to the kink community. The fact is, yes, this is the internet and it gives some people false courage. Most people don't really have the balls to say what they do on the net in front of people in real life.
That's an irrelevance. The kink community is a minority and there are plenty of people who don't align with the progressive politics which infests the community like a weed. I assure you that mingling with the kink community in person would make me more judgemental, not less.

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That goes both ways. Ye Gods, have you ever noticed the masculine Dom mockery which is a constant fixture in this place? Do you seriously think the meth-heads spouting it would do so in person?

I have to wonder about this. Are you intentionally trying to get your post pulled? You've tried children and illegal drugs. What's next?
That's disingenuous bullshit. C'mon, you can do better than that. Especially when this is YOUR fucking tangent which is pretty much irrelevant to the discussion.

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One of these days, you're going to seriously get it out of your head that I base what I say on the forums due to gender.
You obviously have beliefs around gender which conflict with mine and tamaka's. The problem here is not that contrary beliefs exist, it's just that you think you're the only one entitled to express yours.

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Oh please. People feel free to mine my profile for what they think is ammunition. It's a waste of time, of course, because I don't give a shit, but Wayward5oul's disingenuous claims are pathetic. And please try and tell me you're suddenly deciding past posts aren't relevant in a discussion, because that shit is constantly trotted out by the progessinazi's in this place.

I'll own what I said. Regarding the OP, I taking posting history into consideration because he's still currently doing it. There's been no moving on here?

I happen to think I'm pretty good about the search feature here about 90% of the time. (Probably because it's antiquated.) The fact that somebody had to try to use a random post from 2006? Before you or I ever showed up here. AND the fact that it was from a screen name Wayward5oul, rather than Waywardsoul? That's some damn luck, right there.
Okay and here's where I point out that you've just neatly demonstrated why tamaka's was an honest mistake.

The CURRENT poster is Wayward5oul. Tamaka clearly searched for "waywardsoul" because she didn't realise she was dealing with one of those "Numbers are part of the alphabet" script kiddies who thinks they're cool. The fact that YOU can't even see that the CURRENT poster is the one with the "5" in her screen-name, pretty much demonstrates why she didn't.

See how that works? You made the same mistake she did. The least you can do is apologise.

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*drily* Yes, I am somewhat familiar with people who try and use that technique.

Then why do you support it?

Find me someone in here who doesn't. Do you have any idea how often people hit my profile - hoping for dirt - after a disagreement in here with me?


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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 8:34:51 AM   
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So says the only man who felt the need to join in our little "catfight".
This isn't a catfight, it's a group lynching by a bunch of cowards and I'm calling you out for it. Apparently, you're too dim to understand that. Simply amazing.


Well aren't you the white Knight standing up for the damsel in distress. ..bullshit.
No, although I find your reversion to patriarchal norms to be somewhat amusing in its hypocrisy.

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you just saw another opportunity to beat your chest.
And you saw another opportunity to bleed out of your fucking vagina.

Now, do you have an actual point to make or do you just want to whine like a bitch? If you try and make a point - consider logic and reason. I know it's not your way, but in an actual argument, it tends to do better than your usual frothing insanity.

You're welcome.


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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 8:37:35 AM   
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I searched in vain for a point to your post, but it seemed to be all about penis and how you envy it and people with contrary opinions make your head hurt.

Seek professional help.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 8:38:44 AM   
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Personally, I think the ongoing and consistent emasculation of men by "Dommes" is disgusting, but I tend not to proselytize that view all over the board. When you react like fucking children to a contrary opinion, I'm reminded why I consistently think of you as fucking morons. Because you are.


If the men didn't want it, beg for it, fantasize about it, and pursue it, there would be no Dommes.

Well, well, well.... so "Dommes" only exist to take advantage of male subs? And I thought some of them were lesbians. Oh well, apparently you've sounded the death knell for girl on girl D/s. The porn industry will be mortified.


Um......huh?
*facepalm* Ye Gods, you're thick as a brick.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 8:39:47 AM   
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Many male subs are masculine men. Secure enough to follow someone who they find worth following.

But to someone as insecure as awareness, obviously he's threatened by what total strangers do to have a happy and fulfilling life. Very, very sad. Hope he someday gets the courage for therapy. And the grit to do the hard work required. As of now, he doesn't appear ready.
This looks like the continuation of your "Waaahhhh... Awareness made a fool of me, now I hate him forever!" screed.

I see time hasn't healed the wounds. I will pray for you.


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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 8:42:32 AM   
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Well, skipping that then.
How about the school of Dommes whose goal is to turn their sub males into credible gentlemen?

I was following a generic discussion not specific to your personal preferences and needs.
This is actually a civil discussion, so I don't want to derail it, but I'd like to mention that "gentleman" is effectively a euphemism for "male sub". The code of behaviour it implies is gynocentric in the extreme.


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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 8:43:06 AM   
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I searched in vain for a point to your post, but it seemed to be all about penis and how you envy it and people with contrary opinions make your head hurt.

Seek professional help.


Aww, isnt that positively adorably cute...its the batshit insane pot calling the kettle black. Seeing as how you are in desperate need of some professional help yourself, we could go in halves on a Groupon. Im all about helping the less fortunate.

Help is on the way, Awareness. We'll find you a nice psychiatrist who can help you get over your intense fear and loathing of women. I promise we'll get you to the proctologist to get that redwood tree sized stick out of your ass afterwards

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 8:44:47 AM   
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Talk about one twu wayism.... the king of fruitcakes commands it.
HAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
Fruitcake, you just went full smeg head.

How's that man-hating working out for you Lucy? Your internal self-loathing keeping a ready supply of bile handy? Good, good.


I dont hate men, You are actually more of a irritation, than hated, You are a prima facie case of YKINKOBMITBK ignorant one twue wayism twaddle, Its obvious in every post you make to a female dom or a male sub, and feminst men. so please dont try that catty bullshit when you are the queen drama llama on here.


Lucy, you engage with me, far more than I engage with you. I think you're an idiot who is congenitally incapable of constructing a reasoned argument to save her life, so I have no desire to bring you into any discussion.

You also have no idea how to use "prima facie" correctly in a sentence. Consult a dictionary... and perhaps an English teacher.


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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 8:50:31 AM   
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And when you compound that with awkward attempts at retaliation (proving that you lack the maturity level to participate on boards where people regularly express opposing views and have disagreements) and then crow about being 'punished', you should expect not to be taken seriously.
I see, so in addition to being a hypocrite, you also have almost no self-awareness.

I'm not surprised, but the level of irony is truly astounding.


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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 8:52:59 AM   
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Lol... if i were a coward i wouldn't have said anything in the first place. I just know we are going to have to agree to disagree. My opinion isn't based on ignorance. I have 3 degrees with a just shy of 4.0 gpa. I've read the information. I am not ignorant. I've put forth my view alone against the pack. I am not going to spend my day beating my head against the wall. I've stated that if it's just a kink session a man is looking for ... have at it and enjoy. But there's a much bigger societal issue of feminism trying to undermine men, and i'm not cool with that. Nor am i cool with parents fucking around with a kid's gender from birth. For that i think DSS should get involved. Women are prone to be enablers. When enablers get too much power society goes down the toilet... but they all feel good about it while they're going down. So enjoy it while you can i guess.

No. What you did was espouse your "thoughts" on the internet.

That IS cowardly bullsh^t there.

When's the last time you booted up and showed up

I'll give you my word. The very first time you actually do have the fortitude to walk into a kink event, spouting your bullshit, I promise to buy the plane ticket to witness it.

You are a coward.

However, I'll give you a chance. K&G is this weekend. You game?


So let me get this straight. You're assuring her that the warm, welcoming kink community is every bit as hostile as a Southern bar where gay-bashing is a moral imperative.

The fact that "show up so we can hurt you" is the way you're thinking really does reflect the kink community's heart of darkness. I think you people have to take a long, hard look at yourselves.


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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 8:54:44 AM   
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Looks like Awareness has found his soulmate.
No, she's just pretty representative of the opinions of normal women.

In my experience, very few women find male bisexuals acceptable and even fewer find submissive men acceptable.


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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 8:56:22 AM   
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You are very sensitive... no shaming involved... just a funny picture i got in my head when you were trying to intimidate me with the idea.

I am rather sensitive, thank you.

However, I don't find that to be much related to your point. The "millions" that you speak of that are inherently against the idea of male submission, (or female Dominants, for that matter) that you say. I don't see it at my local munch group, the kink club, or the events I attend.

If you do, stand behind it. Walk yourself into your local kink gathering and tell people your opinion of F/m type people. I'd pay the entry fee to see it.

So you don't see anti-progressive views in a place where progressive politics has such a strong foothold you have lunatics insisting there are 11 genders. Gee. What a suprise.

That's like saying you don't see much support for Affirmative Action at the local KKK meet. Like, duh!


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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/6/2016 8:57:41 AM   
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that "gentleman" is effectively a euphemism for "male sub". The code of behaviour it implies is gynocentric in the extreme.


Hm. I could be biased, but I don't particularly see this, discounting those things to do with "don't mess with someone else's mojo/women". The conduct is applicable to all genders in the spirit of the actual codes.

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