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If this did come from Clinton, from her private server, and contained classified info, isn't it important to know how carelessly that info was treated?

It is the FBI Guy who is careless and thrashing about. He would serve us better by submitting his resignation.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
At that point, he was forced to concede that she had been careless but had broken no laws. This is because the FBI had considered the facts and had come to that conclusion.
This is different-- he doesn't have all of the facts, there has been no consideration, he has said nothing about the emails in question, and hasn't revealed WHEN he will know... and yet feels the need to alert ONLY the GOP simply that he is looking into it again.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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If this did come from Clinton, from her private server, and contained classified info, isn't it important to know how carelessly that info was treated?

It is the FBI Guy who is careless and thrashing about. He would serve us better by submitting his resignation.

Do you think Clinton was careless in her handling of classified information?

I think this new revelation isn't going to do anything to Clinton, except, maybe question her decision to put so much trust in Huma. I think this is going to be very damaging to Huma.

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If this did come from Clinton, from her private server, and contained classified info, isn't it important to know how carelessly that info was treated?

It is the FBI Guy who is careless and thrashing about. He would serve us better by submitting his resignation.

Do you think Clinton was careless in her handling of classified information?

I think this new revelation isn't going to do anything to Clinton, except, maybe question her decision to put so much trust in Huma. I think this is going to be very damaging to Huma.

Clinton is noted for being fearlessly loyal to her people. I heard somewhere that Huma had all these emails because she was using her home printer to provide hard copies of the emails. Maybe true or not.

Doncha think Comey is toast in the near future?

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Clinton is noted for being fearlessly loyal to Clinton.
Nixon went down because he was fearlessly loyal to his people.

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Clinton is noted for being fearlessly loyal to Clinton.
Nixon went down because he was fearlessly loyal to his people.

Watergate occurred because Nixon was being loyal to his people? Shouldn't he have been loyal to the fucking country?

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Clinton is noted for being fearlessly loyal to Clinton.
Nixon went down because he was fearlessly loyal to his people.

Watergate occurred because Nixon was being loyal to his people? Shouldn't he have been loyal to the fucking country?

Yes, but that wasn't the point of our exchange now was it?

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This situation has always looked to me like the reason the FBI Director is getting all the shit his is getting is that the fix was in and now he didn't stay bought. Look at all the wonderful things said about him and how great he was he he let Hillary off the hook in the first place. Now, it is a total reversal by all of her supporters....or almost all plus a few others. That smells like someone who did not stay bought and now he must be punished for it. Remove all the political sides, people involved, politics and look at just what is happening. Isolate the activities and ignore the rest. You have this wonderful patriotic man who suddenly is the most vile creature on Earth. Why? Because he, perhaps without intending to do so, reopened something that was closed. Why would his former supporters and people who praised him suddenly turn on him so violently if there was not something else going on?

Remove the emotional content. Isolate the activities ignoring who is doing and saying what. Follow the money. Do those three things and many things become much easier to understand.

By the way...I detest Trump so don't try that angle. I detest Hillary too. A pox on both their houses. <grins>
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"James Comey revived the investigation of Clinton's email server as he could no longer resist mounting pressure by mutinous agents, sources say

"The atmosphere at the FBI has been toxic ever since Jim announced last July that he wouldn't recommend an indictment against Hillary

"He told his wife that he was depressed by the stack of resignation letters piling up on his desk from disaffected agents

"Comey was also worried that Republicans would accuse him of granting Hillary political favoritism after the presidential election

"When new emails allegedly linked to Hillary's personal server turned up in Abedin and Anthony Weiner's computer, Comey jumped at the excuse"

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James Comey's decision to revive the investigation of Hillary Clinton's email server and her handling of classified material came after he could no longer resist mounting pressure by mutinous agents in the FBI, including some of his top deputies, according to a source close to the embattled FBI director.

'The atmosphere at the FBI has been toxic ever since Jim announced last July that he wouldn't recommend an indictment against Hillary,' said the source, a close friend who has known Comey for nearly two decades, shares family outings with him, and accompanies him to Catholic mass every week.

'Some people, including department heads, stopped talking to Jim, and even ignored his greetings when they passed him in the hall,' said the source. 'They felt that he betrayed them and brought disgrace on the bureau by letting Hillary off with a slap on the wrist.'

According to the source, Comey fretted over the problem for months and discussed it at great length with his wife, Patrice.

He told his wife that he was depressed by the stack of resignation letters piling up on his desk from disaffected agents. The letters reminded him every day that morale in the FBI had hit rock bottom.

'He's been ignoring the resignation letters in the hope that he could find a way of remedying the situation,' said the source.

'When new emails that appeared to be related to Hillary's personal email server turned up in a computer used [her close aide] Huma Abedin and [Abedin's disgraced husband,] Anthony Weiner, Comey jumped at the excuse to reopen the investigation.

'The people he trusts the most have been the angriest at him,' the source continued. 'And that includes his wife, Pat. She kept urging him to admit that he had been wrong when he refused to press charges against the former secretary of state.

'He talks about the damage that he's done to himself and the institution [of the FBI], and how he's been shunned by the men and women who he admires and work for him. It's taken a tremendous toll on him.

'It shattered his ego. He looks like he's aged 10 years in the past four months.'

But Comey's decision to reopen the case was more than an effort to heal the wound he inflicted on the FBI.

He was also worried that after the presidential election, Republicans in Congress would mount a probe of how he had granted Hillary political favoritism.

His announcement about the revived investigation, which came just 11 days before the presidential election, was greeted with shock and dismay by Attorney General Loretta Lynch and the prosecutors at the Justice Department.

'Jim told me that Lynch and Obama are furious with him,' the source said.

As I revealed in my latest New York Times bestseller Guilty As Sin Obama said that appointing Comey as FBI direct was 'my worst mistake as president.'

'Lynch and Obama haven't contacted Jim directly,' said the source, 'but they've made it crystal clear through third parties that they disapprove of his effort to save face.'

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the proof in the pudding...

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...No, our crime is more heinous than that.

It is that the Mail constantly dares to stand up to the liberal-left consensus that dominates so many areas of British life and instead represents the views of the ordinary people who are our readers and who don't have a voice in today's political landscape and are too often ignored by today's ruling elite.

The metropolitan classes, of course, despise our readers with their dreams (mostly unfulfilled) of a decent education and health service they can trust, their belief in the family, patriotism, self-reliance, and their over-riding suspicion of the state and the People Who Know Best.

These people mock our readers' scepticism over the European Union and a human rights court that seems to care more about the criminal than the victim. They scoff at our readers who, while tolerant, fret that the country's schools and hospitals can't cope with mass immigration.

In other words, these people sneer at the decent working Britons – I'd argue they are the backbone of this country – they constantly profess to be concerned about.

The truth is that there is an unpleasant intellectual snobbery about the Mail in leftish circles, for whom the word 'suburban' is an obscenity.

They simply cannot comprehend how a paper that opposes the mindset they hold dear can be so successful and so loved by its millions of readers.

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...the Daily Mail is a hugely successful newspaper, with a circulation of nearly 2 million at a time when most of the print media is struggling to make a profit. Its website is one of the most read news sites in the world with a staggering 9 million daily browsers last month. The paper is often seen as a barometer for the sentiments of middle England...

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...The paper sells an average of 1.5 million copies on weekdays, 2.4 million on Saturdays. Only the Sun sells more but, on Saturdays, the Mail has just moved ahead. Its 4.3 million daily readers include more from the top three social classes (A, B and C1) than the Times, Guardian, Independent and Financial Times combined...

Under Dacre, the Mail has won Newspaper of the Year six times in the annual British Press Awards – twice as many prizes as any other paper.

Everyone who has ever worked for Dacre, who has just passed his 65th birthday, praises his almost uncanny instinct for the issues and stories that will hold the attention of “Middle England”...

“He articulates the dreams, fears and hopes of socially insecure members of the suburban middle class,” says Peter Oborne, the Mail’s former political columnist now at the Daily Telegraph. “It’s a daily performance of genius.”

His enemies see the Mail, to quote the Huffington Post writer and NS columnist Mehdi Hasan (who was duly monstered in the Mail’s pages), as “immigrant-bashing, woman-hating, Muslim-smearing, NHS-undermining, gay-baiting”.

[in other words, typical liberal response]

The loathing is returned, with interest. In Dacre’s mind, the country is run, in effect, by affluent metropolitan liberals who dominate Whitehall, the leadership of the main political parties, the universities, the BBC and most public-sector professions.

The Mail, in his view, speaks for ordinary people, working hard and struggling with their bills, conventional in their views, ambitious for their children, loyal to their country, proud of owning their home, determined to stand on their own feet. These people, Dacre believes, are not given a fair hearing in the national media and the Mail alone fights for them. It is incomprehensible to him – a gross category error – that critics should be obsessed by the Mail’s power and influence when the BBC, funded by a compulsory poll tax, dominates the news market. It uses this position, he argues, to push a dogmatically liberal agenda, hidden behind supposed neutrality. Scarcely an issue of the Mail passes without a snipe and sometimes a full barrage in the news pages, leaders or signed opinion columns at BBC “bias”.