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Diaperslave99 -> Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 5:28:24 PM)

I am wondering why after tons of evidence against her and proof that she committed multiple acts of treason, multiple felonies, and has been caught lying over 500 times, that anyone still thinks she is is a decent person. She has literally killed people, been bought off by terrorists, sold guns to Isis, and been caught lying more times than any politician. But yet idiots still think she is better than trump. Granted, trump has major issues too, but he has never sold guns to terrorists, or threatened the women that bill raped, or taken bribes from special interest groups, or corrupted government email servers. Yes trump has issues, but when Hillary has 2000 times the amount of issues stop saying she is better. She is a crook and deserves to rot in prison forever, or better yet be executed per the federal treason laws....




mnottertail -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 5:33:48 PM)

There aint much evidence, and certainly no proof I think is the major thing.
Trump has threatened the women he has raped, had people killed, is a deadbeat, unamerican, selling us out to russia, has servers for communicating with Putin in Russia, robbed millions of people, was born in Germany, his feet stink, and he dont love jeebus.





stef -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 5:45:44 PM)

Really? It looks like your diaper isn't the only thing that's full of shit.




epiphiny43 -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 6:01:20 PM)

Drink much Koolaid? All the above is shit slung on a wall hoping it sticks. Zero facts involved.
Long term, you want to elect a man who has No friends he ever hangs with or discusses (Classic Narcissistic Personality Disorder, just who you want with the Nuclear War keys???), besides a bloody handed Russian dictator/plutocrat. And Promises to first thing, pull us out of the last thin hope the planet has for survival, the world wide global warming treaty. Something we are now 20 years late addressing because of the first Bush doing Big Oil's bidding. Apparently, that treaty is a bad deal for the same reason so many others are, Trump isn't getting richer because of it.
How long do You expect to live? What sort of world do you want for your kids and family. Not much in store if you aren't a multi-millionare very soon.
Worry about the toxins in food, water and air that are continually being discovered? (US male sperm motility are down 50% in two generations.) Trump wants to cut Federal oversight of all this by 75% or more. He Hates the one office keeping our water and air somewhat better than the foul cities of China and India. China sees the writing on the wall and is going the opposite way from Trump. India may be too corrupt to change for the better.
Looking at how Trump handles email (Tons destroyed After court orders to turn records over to legal adversaries) says if HRC is corrupt, he's a stinking mass of offal. Not to get started on all the working people and small businesses he's stiffed, just because he could, and it's 'smart business'. Or the legal thefts because he has a big legal office that can bankrupt small people. Nothing about his life has ever been about other people, his community, or his country. It's always been about Him. This leopard isn't ever going to change his spots. Great selection for leader of the Free World, in it's most challenging economic, political and environmental aspects Ever.
Am I in love with HRC? Of course not. The deals she's had to make to be in a position to run effectively for POTUS stink, as do the deals Every major office holder And candidate has made for generations. Ike may have been the last who ran without deals nobody party to wanted daylight on. And then had to make international deals with terrible tin pot dictators to keep the USSR contained, which he hated, but thought necessary. Small hands will be making decisions that affect everyone on the planet based on who insulted him last. HRC has an actually world encompassing view and has been working on that basis in public life for decades.
Evidence is the DoD and State Dept. may be spending more time and effort trying to keep Trump from going nuclear in the Mid-East than fighting our declared enemies. How long to you think US cities will be safe after we nuke some Islamic country?? If anything could reconcile the Sunnis and Shiites, this would be it. The only reason a dirty bomb hasn't gone off in a US port in some smuggled in container is the various Muslim factions have been busier fighting each other than hating on us. Trump seems to be planning on fixing that fast, with his impulsive personality and total lack of understanding of the complexities of the 21st Century religious and nationalist upheavals.
Do you Really want a POTUS who's answer to any complicated question about national survival and security is,"I've got experts for that." By a man who refuses to listen to anything he doesn't want to hear. Even Trump admits HRC never gives up, or doesn't listen to every one involved. As unhappy as we may be about how our candidates are selected, anyone thinking a mental case is our best choice is mental themself.




PeonForHer -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 6:31:00 PM)

Hillary may be crooked, and a shill, and absolutely part of the establishment. On the plus side, she is sane and has some brains and competence. However Trump is stupid, nasty, irresponsible, as mad as a mongoose and overall isn't even fit to run a hot dog stall, never mind a country. There are no other options because the USA has an insane electoral system that is a travesty of democracy. In sum you get to choose between the merely depressing, and the outright nightmarish, and that's it. Hence, why people support Hillary.




Greta75 -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 7:07:21 PM)

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People support Hillary because she will be more predictable, and nothing will change. So if they are happy with Obama, they would want Hillary who will carry on more Obama-like years.

I guess anybody who is happy with status quo will vote Hillary.

Also, the ones who dislike Hillary, dislike Trump even more.




epiphiny43 -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 7:53:37 PM)

Don't be dissing Mongooses.




BamaD -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 8:33:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Diaperslave99

I am wondering why after tons of evidence against her and proof that she committed multiple acts of treason, multiple felonies, and has been caught lying over 500 times, that anyone still thinks she is is a decent person. She has literally killed people, been bought off by terrorists, sold guns to Isis, and been caught lying more times than any politician. But yet idiots still think she is better than trump. Granted, trump has major issues too, but he has never sold guns to terrorists, or threatened the women that bill raped, or taken bribes from special interest groups, or corrupted government email servers. Yes trump has issues, but when Hillary has 2000 times the amount of issues stop saying she is better. She is a crook and deserves to rot in prison forever, or better yet be executed per the federal treason laws....

The dark side of the force exerts a powerful influence over the weak minded.




MrRodgers -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 8:38:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

FR
People support Hillary because she will be more predictable, and nothing will change. So if they are happy with Obama, they would want Hillary who will carry on more Obama-like years.

I guess anybody who is happy with status quo will vote Hillary.

Also, the ones who dislike Hillary, dislike Trump even more.

As I've written and will keep writing, LL presidents are puppets, are allowed to change things only around the edges and otherwise do what they need to do...to stay alive.




weekendTPE -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 8:55:54 PM)

You, my friend, are the poster child for what 30 years of right-wing propaganda (Murdoch / Fox / Clear Channel / Hannity / Limbaugh) can do the idle and undereducated mind. Don' t you understand that since Reagan the TV you watch in your doctor's office and the radio you listen to in your car have fed you a steady, unending stream of horseshit - constructing an entirely fictional universe in which you now live and breathe. All of your supposed Hillary "misdeeds" are BASELESS GARBAGE, built on a tissue of earlier lies that ignores any and all contrary FACTS and the woman's lifetime spent helping others.

I could write a more damning paragraph of transgressions against your candidate (immaturity, ignorance, narcissism, naivete, racism, sexism, facism, bullying, bankruptcies, unpaid taxes, hidden tax returns, broken promises, unpaid workers, lies about meeting Putin, etc., etc, etc.) The only difference being that -- unlike your rant -- my paragraph would be FACTUAL, TRUE AND BASED ON THE MAN'S OWN STATEMENTS AND ACTIONS.

Turn off Fox News. Get a life. Stop ruining my country.




bossman777 -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 9:01:04 PM)

You said it well, and you don't even cover half her crimes, like selling out our military secrets in the 90's to the communist chinese. Just read "Year of the Rat." So I wonder the same thing. Seeing someone who supports Hillary is like viewing a person who says, "I love evil".




weekendTPE -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 9:08:12 PM)

As i said to the Diaper... turn off the alternative universe pumped at you 24/7/365 by Fox News, realize the claim you just made (like all of his) is a lie and try to come back to the real world at some point before you die and/or ruin the country forever, whichever comes first.

Most important: Stop simply regurgitating the crap you are fed by right-wing talk radio and think for yourself!




markyugen -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 11:03:50 PM)

The reason I like HC is that she will most likely continue and extend the progressive policies of Obama, as well as protect those that are in place such as the ACA. In addition, she will give us good left-leaning Supreme Ct judges that will counterbalance for the first time in decades the Right wing court that has been so devastating to citizen rights in a wide variety of areas. (This is assuming the Right doesn’t pull a hissy fit and refuse to let any of her appointments serve, which would be extremely obnoxious of them, to say the least.) Her foreign policy is a problematic area, but I think she’s also pragmatic and won’t start any wars that she knows will lead us into another Iraq or Vietnam. And last but not least, she will become the first woman president, so history will be made, which is the icing on what should be a fairly tasty cake.

As for her supposed crimes, all I see there is a bunch of grotesquely overblown conspiratorial RW nonsense.




heavyblinker -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 11:15:18 PM)

Because I don't believe in idealistic fantasy worlds, and accept that positive change is something that happens gradually provided conditions are relatively stable, through a lot of boring unexciting decisions that nudge things closer to where they need to be. The president is merely one small part of the team that is doing the nudging... and Hillary understands this while Trump does not.

Apart from all of the paranoia and conspiracy shit, Trump objectively empowers racists and bigots while Hillary does not. Even if her personal qualities make her morality questionable, I think she's a much better leader who can work with a team... Trump think he's going to be the boss of America and it's not going to play well AT ALL.

Also, every time some RWNJ brings out their programmed laundry list of HRC's sins it just seems really pathetic.




Lucylastic -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/1/2016 11:37:01 PM)

WEll, Im not voting, and I dont like hillary, but just off the top of my head the reason she would get my vote between the two.
Racism, Sexism, LGBTQ, Bigotry, Economics, Poverty, Equality for all, Healthcare. Nuclear codes.

If she is such an amazing criminal, I wont vote for the people who have had 30 years of investigations, relentless misogyny, lies, and STILL cannnot find any evidence to charge her with anything in a court of law. THe most incompetent people in the universe. Get them out.
ESPECIALLY when the dickhead for the GOP has ignored 12 claims from people accusing him of what he actually said he did, in his own words. Not to mention his own provable corruption and lies.
And have something like 70 cases coming up against him in courts.









ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/2/2016 2:24:17 AM)

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after tons of evidence against her and proof that she committed multiple acts of treason, multiple felonies, and has been caught lying over 500 times, that anyone still thinks she is is a decent person. She has literally killed people, been bought off by terrorists, sold guns to Isis,

Oh please.




Edwird -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/2/2016 3:09:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Diaperslave99

I am wondering why after tons of evidence against her


Sorry to break this to you, but frothing-mouthed brayings of AM radio hosts, Townhall, Breitbart, etc. are not admissible as evidence in any court of law.


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and proof that she committed multiple acts of treason,

Name one of them with a creditable source. In any case, were any of these imagined occurrences of the same magnitude of treason committed by Rove, Cheney, Wolfowitz, et al. under Bush II, in blowing CIA agent Valerie Plame's cover and burning all her middle east deep cover operatives?

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and has been caught lying over 500 times,


That's a somewhat low number for any politician who's been at it as long as she has, TBH

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She has ... been bought off by terrorists,


If that were true, at least we could say that she actually took money from them, as opposed to Reagan and Bush who literally gave millions of tax payer money to terrorists.


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sold guns to Isis,


Did she, now? If so, perhaps she was taking a page from Reagan's book when he sold guns to Iran less than a year after they'd held 53 Americans hostage for 444 days.









thishereboi -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/2/2016 4:00:37 AM)

Depends on the person, some people are voting for her because she is a women and they think we should have a female president. Some are voting for her because she has a D next to her name and for them, that's all that matters. Others actually believe she stands for the same things they do and some don't but hate trump so much they don't care. I am sure there are more just like there are many varied reasons people will vote for trump.

And now that you have asked the question posters will come and rip you apart and call you stupid for daring to not have the same opinions they do. Some will even use your kink to make fun of you and one will do a lot of slobbering with an occasional nutsucker thrown in.

welcome to collarchat




heavyblinker -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/2/2016 4:18:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
And now that you have asked the question posters will come and rip you apart and call you stupid for daring to not have the same opinions they do. Some will even use your kink to make fun of you and one will do a lot of slobbering with an occasional nutsucker thrown in.

welcome to collarchat


I think he kind of invited antagonism when he said 'yet idiots think she is better than Trump'... and a lot of his 'points' are just silly.

Also, internet forums are often like this even when moderation occurs.




RottenJohnny -> RE: Just curious why anyone supports hillary (11/2/2016 4:34:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
...some people are voting for her because she is a women and they think we should have a female president.

Voting for Hillary because she's a woman is like eating a turd because it looks like a tootsie roll.




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