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mnottertail -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 12:53:45 PM)

Obama wont need to fire Comey, he will be tried for, and shot for Treason, we have it on the most exquisite of nutsucker legalists and slobberblog authorities. If it isn't so, we will hear it from the FBI. They are some gushingly leaky minge boxes, oi?




vincentML -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 1:04:58 PM)

quote:

Bret Baier: FBI Sources Believe Clinton Foundation Case Moving Towards "Likely an Indictment"

"FBI Sources"[8|] Just a mishmash of several political hack attack points.




bounty44 -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 1:16:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
The information source you posted has zero accountability because nobody has the time, patience or energy it would need to debunk every single lie it tells. The FBI is NOT going to respond to them because they know they're a fucking joke... and so should you.

They exist only to feed you the bullshit you want to hear in order to get your indignation fix. They know that in a few days you won't care that what they said was a lie, because your attention will be focused on a brand new lie that produces the same effect. That momentary thrill is all you will care about, which is exactly what is happening now.

I'm not saying I haven't also been guilty of compulsively checking the news to see what brand new shitstorm is joining this mother of all shitstorms... but seriously, the reality is already sensational enough without having to bring conspiracy sites and other fake news sites into the mix.

Whatever, dude. I posted a news story. Take it however you want.


when one is incapable of informed critical thought and cannot deal effectively with the content, all that's left throwing crap at the source and the messenger and hope that works. although the approach here is novel, if not somewhat reeking of desperation too.

fox is a "fake news site??"---oh in a comrade's wet dream maybe.

oh and yeah---of course we all know journalists ALWAYS reveal their sources and NO ONE ever says anything anonymously.




mnottertail -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 1:26:24 PM)

And we are certain they dont say it to nutsuckers.

nutsuckers ghish gallop them devoid of critical thought and uneffectively and whine and mewl and puke that they demand honest consideration?

and them minge boxes aint journalists.




thompsonx -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 1:32:59 PM)

ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

If it turns out to be bullshit then I'm sure someone from the FBI will say so.


May we expect your apology if it fails to materalize say within 60 days?




RottenJohnny -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 2:06:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
May we expect your apology if it fails to materalize say within 60 days?

Apology for what, posting a news story?




mnottertail -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 2:14:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44
fox is a "fake news site??"



You bet your sweet felchgobble it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMZgC-aidZA





bounty44 -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 2:16:15 PM)

i just listened to brett baier saying that when he used the phrase an "indictment is likely" that it was an in-artful way of answering a particular question that had been put to him. he didn't reiterate what the question had been.




mnottertail -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 2:25:12 PM)

well, you know, factless nutsucker slobberblogs and all that shit, happens all the time, constantly in fact.




Lucylastic -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 2:25:26 PM)

yep walked back like the lil fox bitch he is

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Here is Bret Baier on Fox News this morning, in the light of day, explaining why he now has to walk back his breathless nighttime report about "possible indictments" connected to the Clinton Foundation.

As I explained last night, Baier's "correction" is directly related to the story's sourcing. Transcript of the key moment, via Media Matters:

MARTHA MACCALLUM (CO-HOST): The FBI sources that you spoke with suggest that an indictment is likely. That would prove -- go ahead.

BRET BAIER: I want to be clear -- I want to be clear about this, and this was -- came from a Q and A that I did with Brit Hume after my show and after we went through everything. He asked me if, after the election, if Hillary Clinton wins, will this investigation continue, and I said, “yes absolutely.” I pressed the sources again and again what would happen. I got to the end of that and said, “they have a lot of evidence that would, likely lead to an indictment.” But that’s not, that’s inartfully answered. That’s not the process. That’s not how you do it. You have to have a prosecutor. If they don't move forward with a prosecutor with the DOJ, there would be, I'm told, a very public call for an independent prosecutor to move forward. There is confidence in the evidence, but for me to phrase it like I did, of course that got picked up everywhere, but the process is different than that.

Josh Marshall picked up on this, ripping Real Clear Politics and The Hill for their reporting.

The RCP story says Fox had "FBI sources" and "two sources inside the FBI." The Hill says "two sources within the FBI" gave the story to Fox. Since The Hill and RCP have text versions of the article, those are the ones which have spread more widely.

But that is clearly not what Bret Baier, the Foxer who reported the story, said. Both times he reported this on the air he used very specific language. Once he said: "two separate sources with intimate knowledge of the FBI investigations into the Clinton emails and the Clinton Foundation." Another time he said: "two separate sources with intimate knowledge of what's going with these FBI investigations." (emphasis added)
Here's where we pick up the thread of my argument last night and in days prior, where I say that the FBI New York office is quite out of control, and the leakers are Rudy Giuliani and James Kallstrom, former assistant director of the New York division.

The Daily Beast unpacks that for us in a lengthy article about exactly who is talking to whom.

Hours after Comey’s letter about the renewed probe was leaked on Friday, Giuliani went on a radio show and attributed the director’s surprise action to “the pressure of a group of FBI agents who don’t look at it politically.”

“The other rumor that I get is that there’s a kind of revolution going on inside the FBI about the original conclusion [not to charge Clinton] being completely unjustified and almost a slap in the face to the FBI’s integrity,” said Giuliani. “I know that from former agents. I know that even from a few active agents.”

Along with Giuliani’s other connections to New York FBI agents, his former law firm, then called Bracewell Giuliani, has long been general counsel to the FBI Agents Association (FBIAA), which represents 13,000 former and current agents. The group, born in the New York office in the early ’80s, was headed until Monday by Rey Tariche, an agent still working in that office. Tariche’s resignation letter from the bureau mentioned the Clinton probe, noting that “we find our work—our integrity questioned” because of it, adding “we will not be used for political gains.”

I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you! But wait, there's more. James Kallstrom is right at the center of the storm.

When Comey cleared Clinton this July, Kallstrom was on Fox again, declaring: “I’ve talked to about 15 different agents today—both on the job and off the job—who are basically worried about the reputation of the agency they love.” The number grew dramatically by Labor Day weekend when Comey released Clinton’s FBI interview and other documents, and Kallstrom told Kelly he was talking to “50 different people in and out of the agency, retired agents,” all of whom he said were “basically disgusted” by Comey’s latest release.

By Sept. 28, Kallstrom said he’d been contacted by hundreds of people, including “a lot of retired agents and a few on the job,” declaring the agents “involved in this thing feel like they’ve been stabbed in the back.” So, he said, “I think we’re going to see a lot more of the facts come out in the course of the next few months. That’s my prediction.”

Kallstrom, whose exchanges with active agents about particular cases are as contrary to FBI policy as Giuliani’s, formally and passionately endorsed Trump this week on Stuart Varney’s Fox Business show, adding that Clinton is a “pathological liar.”

Now here's where this all gets interesting. Also according to the Daily Beast article, Trump's largest charitable contribution ever was given to a charity which Kallstrom heads -- The Marine Corps Law Foundation.

Kallstrom, who served as a Marine before becoming an agent, didn’t mention that a charity he’d founded decades ago and that’s now called the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation, was the single biggest beneficiary of Trump’s promise to raise millions for veterans when he boycotted the Iowa primary debate. A foundation official said that Trump’s million-dollar donation this May, atop $100,000 that he’d given in March, were the biggest individual grants it had ever received. The Trump Foundation had contributed another $230,000 in prior years and Trump won the organization’s top honor at its annual Waldorf Astoria gala in 2015.

Through this foundation, he is also connected to Rush Limbaugh, who serves on the board of the foundation.

Kallstrom has made no secret of his admiration of Trump, nor has he made a secret of his communications with former FBI agents. And who better to be the perfect conduit out to TrumpWorld of what rogue FBI agents in New York are doing? Hmmm?

As the article makes clear, Kallstrom is great at plausible deniability. But if you're looking for two sources outside of the FBI to trumpet inside FBI leaks, Kallstrom and Giuliani are your guys.

One can only conclude that the FBI has indeed inserted itself into this election, in a way that is completely outside of established rules and policies, in order to give a big hand up to Donald Trump.


http://crooksandliars.com/2016/11/surprise-bret-baier-has-walk-back-clinton


Shammity Had to do the same the other day....
Sean Hannity tweeted apologies today for repeating a story on his radio show about Elizabeth Warren and Michelle Obama scrubbing their feeds of Hillary Clinton references. Here's the audio, via Mediaite, of Hannity repeating the false story:



Wait, Hannity quoted Gateway Pundit, the widely acknowledged "stupidest man on the internet"?


Wait, Hannity quoted Wikileaks, widely acknowledged Vladimir Putin apparatchik Madlibs?


And he did it to suggest Michelle Obama and Elizabeth Warren were distancing themselves from Hillary Clinton?


Really Sean?

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Sean Hannity ✔ @seanhannity
Correction. Live on radio I read a gateway pundit report that @MichelleObama had deleted mentions of HRC. And a listener said BHO and...
6:07 PM - 1 Nov 2016
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Elizabeth Warren did same. Fact is they didn't. I humbly apologize. Live radio
6:08 PM - 1 Nov 2016
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http://crooksandliars.com/2016/11/hannity-apologizes-reading-fake-news-story




mnottertail -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 2:59:54 PM)

And since it always turns out to be asswipe from factless nutsucker slobber blogs. It is much more easy to say its a nutsucker slobber blog rather than them post reams of that shit and say prove it is a lie like you did every other one I have posted for the last 10 fucking years.

Yanno?

nutsucker slobber blog, its over. done.




MrRodgers -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 3:04:04 PM)

Am I reading this correctly ?

This shit has been looked into for a year or more ? Then you've gotta love the timing of this bullshit.

News Flash, this just in...Somebody at the FBI or 'Leaks, or ?? just got a big fucking payoff (from Trump ?) I say and there is no better source...than me.




Lucylastic -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 3:15:28 PM)

Noting the fact that its 99% of ONLY right wing networks are posting "leaks" from the FBI.
thats not strange...at all.




bounty44 -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 3:20:17 PM)

its certainly possible to speculate about a "pay off" but given that its multiple people "leaking" and the story more or less corresponds with other stories, the better suggestion is likely its simply disgruntled agents pushing back against what happened in july, and against the doj trying to stymy their work.

in short, whats going on now was predicted months ago.




bounty44 -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 3:53:11 PM)

"CNN: FBI Agents Tell Us DOJ Put Up Politically Motivated Roadblocks During Clinton Foundation Probe"

quote:

Piggybacking on Guy’s post about the FBI and the Department Of Justice’s war over the investigation into the Clinton Foundation, which had some members of DOJ reportedly “pissed off” that the bureau wanted to go after the nonprofit of the political power couple with gusto:

The story begins by focusing on the email probe side of the controversy, then delves into great detail about a raging, under-the-radar battle over multiple FBI field offices examining possible criminal wrongdoing at the Clinton Foundation. The specifics of the report are remarkable, with warring factions offering differing accounts of what has really transpired. One thing that becomes clear from the Journal's reporting is that some within the FBI believe top brass at their agency and at the Justice Department have repeatedly exerted their influence to hamstring or shut down a serious criminal investigation...

One contingent of agents views their bosses at DOJ as actively trying to deep-six their investigative efforts, which could have further damaged the Clintons. Another contingent believes the evidence wasn't strong enough to justify a full-scale investigation.

For more on this covert war between DOJ and the FBI, please finish Guy’s post, but CNN’s (oh no comrades, CNN??) Evan Perez and Pamela Brown said last night that the FBI agents who were part of the Clinton Foundation probe wanted to pursue this investigation with vigor, corroborating some of The Wall Street Journal story (oh no comrades, the WSJ??). Brown also said that politically motivated roadblocks were set up by the DOJ to torpedo the investigation:

“Agents in the FBI wanted to aggressively investigate the Clinton Foundation several months ago earlier in the year, the Department of Justice told the FBI essentially you don’t have enough evidence here for predication to get more tools, such as warrants and subpoenas, go back and see what else you can dig up,” said Brown. She later added that agents still wanted to continue their investigation into the foundation, even after the probe into Clinton’s emails was initially concluded in July. The DOJ still said they lacked the evidence, which led to allegations that the roadblocks being established in this case are politically motivated...


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/11/03/cnn-fbi-agents-tell-us-doj-put-up-politically-motivated-roadblocks-during-our-clinton-foundation-probe-n2240973

maybe cnn and the wsj are fake news and conspiracy sites?? (got an ineffectual youtube video for those too vile critter parts?)




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Lucylastic -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 4:10:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

"CNN: FBI Agents Tell Us DOJ Put Up Politically Motivated Roadblocks During Clinton Foundation Probe"

quote:

Piggybacking on Guy’s post about the FBI and the Department Of Justice’s war over the investigation into the Clinton Foundation, which had some members of DOJ reportedly “pissed off” that the bureau wanted to go after the nonprofit of the political power couple with gusto:

The story begins by focusing on the email probe side of the controversy, then delves into great detail about a raging, under-the-radar battle over multiple FBI field offices examining possible criminal wrongdoing at the Clinton Foundation. The specifics of the report are remarkable, with warring factions offering differing accounts of what has really transpired. One thing that becomes clear from the Journal's reporting is that some within the FBI believe top brass at their agency and at the Justice Department have repeatedly exerted their influence to hamstring or shut down a serious criminal investigation...

One contingent of agents views their bosses at DOJ as actively trying to deep-six their investigative efforts, which could have further damaged the Clintons. Another contingent believes the evidence wasn't strong enough to justify a full-scale investigation.

For more on this covert war between DOJ and the FBI, please finish Guy’s post, but CNN’s (oh no comrades, CNN??) Evan Perez and Pamela Brown said last night that the FBI agents who were part of the Clinton Foundation probe wanted to pursue this investigation with vigor, corroborating some of The Wall Street Journal story (oh no comrades, the WSJ??). Brown also said that politically motivated roadblocks were set up by the DOJ to torpedo the investigation:

“Agents in the FBI wanted to aggressively investigate the Clinton Foundation several months ago earlier in the year, the Department of Justice told the FBI essentially you don’t have enough evidence here for predication to get more tools, such as warrants and subpoenas, go back and see what else you can dig up,” said Brown. She later added that agents still wanted to continue their investigation into the foundation, even after the probe into Clinton’s emails was initially concluded in July. The DOJ still said they lacked the evidence, which led to allegations that the roadblocks being established in this case are politically motivated...


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/11/03/cnn-fbi-agents-tell-us-doj-put-up-politically-motivated-roadblocks-during-our-clinton-foundation-probe-n2240973

maybe cnn and the wsj are fake news and conspiracy sites?? (got an ineffectual youtube video for those too vile critter parts?)


You might want to read what CCN actually stated...http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/02/politics/james-comey-fbi-reputation/index.html




mnottertail -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 4:12:12 PM)

Oh, theres shit going on in the FBI but not the asswipe nutsucker slobberblogs (oh no comrades, WSJ and Townhall, but not CNN) and not what CNN said.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/11/03/cnn-fbi-agents-tell-us-doj-put-up-politically-motivated-roadblocks-during-our-clinton-foundation-probe-n2240973

So, lets start tasering these FBI agents, maybe a little truncheon, shoot a couple and arrest them for taillights out.


Cops, even FBI agents are cops because they are fucking stupid, they have to take stupid tests to get in the force and they have to pass them, showing intellect is failure.

They dont give a fuck about law, they want to bust people, pin shit on em and go home and beat the old lady or kill a black guy.

DOJ is a little more concerned with the adherence to the law and constitution.





lovmuffin -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 4:25:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
The information source you posted has zero accountability because nobody has the time, patience or energy it would need to debunk every single lie it tells. The FBI is NOT going to respond to them because they know they're a fucking joke... and so should you.

They exist only to feed you the bullshit you want to hear in order to get your indignation fix. They know that in a few days you won't care that what they said was a lie, because your attention will be focused on a brand new lie that produces the same effect. That momentary thrill is all you will care about, which is exactly what is happening now.

I'm not saying I haven't also been guilty of compulsively checking the news to see what brand new shitstorm is joining this mother of all shitstorms... but seriously, the reality is already sensational enough without having to bring conspiracy sites and other fake news sites into the mix.

Whatever, dude. I posted a news story. Take it however you want.


when one is incapable of informed critical thought and cannot deal effectively with the content, all that's left throwing crap at the source and the messenger and hope that works. although the approach here is novel, if not somewhat reeking of desperation too.

fox is a "fake news site??"---oh in a comrade's wet dream maybe.

oh and yeah---of course we all know journalists ALWAYS reveal their sources and NO ONE ever says anything anonymously.



Not only that but the libs are getting pissy because things haven't been looking so good for Hillary lately.




bounty44 -> RE: Clinton Foundation Pay-For-Play Indictment "Likely" (11/3/2016 4:39:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
Not only that but the libs are getting pissy because things haven't been looking so good for Hillary lately.


you mean that's not their normal modus operandi?




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