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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 10:50:49 PM   
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Oh those big nasty democrats are bullying me, shall I hit them with my handbag or powder puff ?
Greta, I am a socialist/Labour man ( left of left) and I never attempted to bully anybody at the polls or anywhere else .Please don't use such a wide brush for a fair swathe of the population, either there or here or anywhere else.

I has another post that show proof that more Hillary supporters disrespects trump voters, than trump voters disrespect hillary voters.

So all I am saying is, it is what I observe. And then the survey proves this.

Then you got Robert DeNiro openly saying that he absolutely REFUSED to have anything to do with any Trump supporter. He refused to have his photo taken with the schwarzenegger just because of his support for Trump. Literally sited support for Trump as THE reason for refusing photos, basically telling Trump supporters that they ain't getting any photo with him IF they support Trump. I think it's another form of Fascism to alienate a group of people just because of their political affiliation. Seem to be more commonly coming from the left. And if anybody who uses sexual predator as an excuse to not support Trump but decide to choose Hillary, that is the craziest reason ever since it's basically okay to support a woman who supports her sexual predator husband but not okay to support the other dude who may be a sexual predator.

For every majority in that group of people, you'd always find some exceptions. Take for example, it's totally possible to find Muslims who refuse to obey Islam and absolutely refuse to beat their wife for disobeying them. That is true as well.

Just like it is 101% totally possible to find a white man who support Nazism but married to a African person or a Jewish person. I know a jewish woman married to a Nazi skin head. And have children together. And then she bemoans her husband is racist towards her family. It's funny. He just has an exception for her.

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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 10:56:02 PM   
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Oh those big nasty democrats are bullying me, shall I hit them with my handbag or powder puff ?
Greta, I am a socialist/Labour man ( left of left) and I never attempted to bully anybody at the polls or anywhere else .Please don't use such a wide brush for a fair swathe of the population, either there or here or anywhere else.

I has another post that show proof that more Hillary supporters disrespects trump voters, than trump voters disrespect hillary voters.

So all I am saying is, it is what I observe. And then the survey proves this.

Then you got Robert DeNiro openly saying that he absolutely REFUSED to have anything to do with any Trump supporter. He refused to have his photo taken with the schwarzenegger just because of his support for Trump. Literally sited support for Trump as THE reason for refusing photos, basically telling Trump supporters that they ain't getting any photo with him IF they support Trump.

For every majority in that group of people, you'd always find some exceptions. Take for example, it's totally possible to find Muslims who refuse to obey Islam and absolutely refuse to beat their wife for disobeying them. That is true as well.


Is this because your side is righteous and good and my side is evil and wrong?

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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 10:56:57 PM   
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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 10:59:12 PM   
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Is this because your side is righteous and good and my side is evil and wrong?

It is because people who support Hillary support hypocrisy and also don't support honesty.


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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:01:46 PM   
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Funny, I had the feeling that Brexit was gonna happen by what I was hearing from people in UK. Nobody seemed to be keeping a secret which way they were going to swing.

That wasn't what the media said though. Brexit was a shock to everyone in the world and Britain. And that wasn't what the polls says either.


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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:01:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did you keep a straight face when you typed that greta ? I personally would put neither of them in charge of a ten day old corpse. They would find something to steal. Nor would I appoint them dog catcher. they would be lying about how many they caught to claim bonuses of some sort. They are BOTH rogues, cheats, thieves and liars.

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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:05:37 PM   
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Did you keep a straight face when you typed that greta ? I personally would put neither of them in charge of a ten day old corpse. They would find something to steal. Nor would I appoint them dog catcher. they would be lying about how many they caught to claim bonuses of some sort. They are BOTH rogues, cheats, thieves and liars.

The party pushing for political correctness is Hillary and not Trump.
Political Correctness to me, is just another word for lies and dishonesty.

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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:15:08 PM   
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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:18:40 PM   
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It is because people who support Hillary support hypocrisy and also don't support honesty.


I guess I need to be less subtle, then... because apparently living in a non-democracy where the citizens are treated like children and practically everything is micromanaged has made you super naive about what politicians are actually like.

Trump isn't honest, Greta, he is just rude. He doesn't say the things that people are afraid to admit, he says the things that people don't say because they know they are wrong and because they actually care about how others feel. Behind the scenes, he is just as manipulative, dishonest and hypocritical as Hillary... probably moreso.

Honesty doesn't equal not making apologies.

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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:21:15 PM   
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he says the things that people don't say because they know they are wrong and because they actually care about how others feel. Behind the scenes, he is just as manipulative, dishonest and hypocritical as Hillary... probably moreso.

Honesty doesn't equal not making apologies.

I disagree. When he say Mexicans are sending in their rapist and murderers.

Political Correct folks dishonestly jump on it, as he is saying ALL Mexicans are rapists and murderers.

But he is precisely simply saying, the illegals that Mexico doesn't give a shit about enforcing, is because if their undesirables leave their country and become other people's problem, they don't care.

I think that's not hate. That's just stating facts.

Because what is Mexico doing to prevent their own people from crossing over illegally?

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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:22:21 PM   
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yes just a few more days and all the grand standing and mud slinging will be over


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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:22:22 PM   
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The party pushing for political correctness is Hillary and not Trump.
Political Correctness to me, is just another word for lies and dishonesty.


I keep wondering when trying to respect others' differences somehow become less socially acceptable than hate. It's like some people would prefer to see a black person's head stomped in than be personally criticized by some angry lesbian with pit hair.

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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:25:46 PM   
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because apparently living in a non-democracy where the citizens are treated like children and practically everything is micromanaged has made you super naive about what politicians are actually like.

We are spoiled because our government micro-manages everything and take care of every problem. While you guys are concern about jobs.

Our unemployment is so low that, that's barely a concern.

Our concerns are more spoilt brat things like, there should be 100% home ownership, as everyone deserves their own fully owned roof and how the government is gonna make it happen. If that can't be a possibility, then we would consider our government to have failed us. Everything else is so well taken care of, that our demands are actually higher than what other people in other country would expect out of their government.

As for democracy. Our democracy is equal. Your President does not win by popular vote.

Our PM does not win by popular vote. It's in a way electoral vote phrased in a different manner.

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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:25:52 PM   
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he says the things that people don't say because they know they are wrong and because they actually care about how others feel. Behind the scenes, he is just as manipulative, dishonest and hypocritical as Hillary... probably moreso.

Honesty doesn't equal not making apologies.

I disagree. When he say Mexicans are sending in their rapist and murderers.

Political Correct folks dishonestly jump on it, as he is saying ALL Mexicans are rapists and murderers.

But he is precisely simply saying, the illegals that Mexico doesn't give a shit about enforcing, is because if their undesirables leave their country and become other people's problem, they don't care.

I think that's not hate. That's just stating facts.

Because what is Mexico doing to prevent their own people from crossing over illegally?


There appear to be some cultural barriers here, Greta... statements like the ones Trump has been making have long been recognized as racist codewords. It's about pushing the racism thing as far as you can while still have deniability. This is why the 'alt-right' and extremists have been flocking to him.

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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:27:39 PM   
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There appear to be some cultural barriers here, Greta... statements like the ones Trump has been making have long been recognized as racist codewords. It's about pushing the racism thing as far as you can while still have deniability. This is why the 'alt-right' and extremists have been flocking to him.

Saying what Trump say about Mexicans is racist is like saying Brexit is racist.

You apply meanings to it that don't exist. Trump just say things as it is.

I always understand Trump meaning exactly as he said it. It often amazes me how the media always twist his words.




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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:31:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		What was that song from the protest era ? '' Come along and hate your neighbour" or something like that. And the final line was............."On the bloody morning after, one tin soldier walked away". I just don't want to be around the see that morning happen. I've seen a little hate and blood in my time and the violence feeds on itself.

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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:31:41 PM   
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I keep wondering when trying to respect others' differences somehow become less socially acceptable than hate.

I think the left are always protecting the wrong people and the wrong issues.
Picking up to be defenders and protector of Islam for example, is the stupidest side they ever done, which is as good as rallying their support behind Nazism regime.
But I will never understand why they would be anti-Nazism and pro-Islam.
Both things have one thing in common. Both want to exterminate Jews.

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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:40:39 PM   
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We are spoiled because our government micro-manages everything and take care of every problem. While you guys are concern about jobs.

Our unemployment is so low that, that's barely a concern.

Our concerns are more spoilt brat things like, there should be 100% home ownership, as everyone deserves their own fully owned roof and how the government is gonna make it happen. If that can't be a possibility, then we would consider our government to have failed us. Everything else is so well taken care of, that our demands are actually higher than what other people in other country would expect out of their government.

As for democracy. Our democracy is equal. Your President does not win by popular vote.

Our PM does not win by popular vote. It's in a way electoral vote phrased in a different manner.


This election has done a lot to convince me that your system is better.

You would NEVER end up with an incompetent moron like Trump anywhere near a position of power. Your PM is appointed based on his popularity among the rest of the government officials... Trump's own party is largely against him, so he wouldn't even be considered in the first place. Your president is basically a popular businessman-- Trump would never have been allowed to run.

You need to understand that the US system is deeply flawed in that it allows angry, frustrated morons to choose not just the leader of the US, but also one of the most powerful people in the world.

You've never had to worry about the prospect of an idiot with ridiculous policies seizing power, ruining your country, and not just destroying your economy but also hurting the global economy at a time when it can't afford to be hurt.

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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:42:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Greta...................EVERYBODY wants to exterminate jews, or has attempted to at one time or another. They are still around though and when they founded Israel, they told the anti-semites, okay, you know where we are now, come and get us. They are still there too.

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RE: Trum Rally in North Carolina - 11/5/2016 11:43:57 PM   
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Saying what Trump say about Mexicans is racist is like saying Brexit is racist.

You apply meanings to it that don't exist. Trump just say things as it is.

I always understand Trump meaning exactly as he said it. It often amazes me how the media always twist his words.


There WAS an element of racism at play with the Brexit vote... but I would say that most of it was rooted in a ridiculous sense nostalgia. A lot of old people sitting on their porches, wishing they could go back to the good old days. Racism is just part of that nostalgia.

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