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truckinslave -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 10:58:59 AM)

Yeah. That's because $20k will buy you information on a street crime but won't get you jack shit about a professional hit.




subrob1967 -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 11:06:58 AM)

The Sec State email investigation is closed, the Clinton Foundation investigation is ongoing.




Awareness -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 11:26:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Yeah. That's because $20k will buy you information on a street crime but won't get you jack shit about a professional hit.
Exactly. In Washington DC, this is how they do it: https://youtu.be/fMG8SVrqstg?t=5s




Nnanji -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 12:40:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

So now that the 'reopened investigation' revealed absolutely nothing as expected, is there even a small chance that the rabid right will re-evaluate its relationship with FOX, etc... and realize that the conspiracies it was spewing before this point were designed solely to manipulate them? Will they own up to their out-of-control paranoia and calm the fuck down?

I can remember someone on this forum saying that they were sure Hillary was guilty of murder and that the folder was marked 'life insurance' because it was blackmail leverage or something. These are not the thoughts of someone who has any control over their own brain.

My guess is that the right will simply forget about it and continue to believe all of the bullshit. They will assume that they're not hearing the full story and that the reason this whole thing fizzled out was due to corruption and a broken justice system. Once again they will consider themselves 'independent thinkers' despite the fact that they don't have the facts, don't have the ability to think critically and are merely indulging their own paranoia. The anticlimactic end of the whole story hasn't received half the attention that the letter did... and the right has all but swept it under the rug and moved on to new non-bombshells that the right desperately need to believe are unthinkable transgressions, like this one:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/05/leaked-transcript-bill-clinton-says-political-system-is-rigged-and-hillary-deserves-the-white-house/

^Terrible, misleading article in which they think that saying 'the political system is rigged' is the same as saying 'the election is rigged'... trying to mislead their idiotic readers into thinking Clinton agrees with Trump. There is nothing wrong with suggesting that someone who has worked for the nation's government to the best of her ability deserves the top job, which, agree or disagree, is exactly the sentiment Bill was putting forward.



I see, your latest batch of koolaid is making you feel better about the election. All of those ignorant right wingers are bad and Hillary people are good. Ya, this election showed just which news agencies were in the tank for the politicians and it wasn't Fox News.

But look what you have to look forward to. Ever since Bob Dole was given his silly turn to run for POTUS, republicans have been working hard to purge the government media complex. This year at least showed effort on our part. The Dems put up their Bob Dole anngot asses kicked. A few tried to get an outsider in, Bernie, but the government media complex took care that it was only a show. Maybe, you'll join us and quit electing the person who the establishment says it's their turn. Probably you won't. The lessons you get with your koolaid has you pretty bedazzled.




Nnanji -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 12:45:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

Conservatives are the easiest group of Americans to manipulate in the nation. The fact that those on the left have ethics and standards leaves right wing media to abuse them endlessly. If one uses key words or triggers, you can basically get conservatives to believe just about anything without question. The increase in fake news sites publishing equally fake news bits have found conservatives highly respective to anything they state as true. Have spent some time explaining to these morons that the information they have is rubbish.

I think we should place an educational requirement to be allowed to vote.

Yes, an whatever you're drinking should be made a felony to drive under the influence of. I thought you assured everyone Hillary was the "It" girl?

The one thing the left is good at, besides sowing division, is believing that no matter how many times their system fails, if they hit their head against the wall just a little more, suddenly it will be done right and nervana will ensue.




Nnanji -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 12:47:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

So now that the 'reopened investigation' revealed absolutely nothing as expected, is there even a small chance that the rabid right will re-evaluate its relationship with FOX, etc... and realize that the conspiracies it was spewing before this point were designed solely to manipulate them? Will they own up to their out-of-control paranoia and calm the fuck down?

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My guess is that the right will simply forget about it and continue to believe all of the bullshit. They will assume that they're not hearing the full story and that the reason this whole thing fizzled out was due to corruption and a broken justice system. Once again they will consider themselves 'independent thinkers' despite the fact that they don't have the facts, don't have the ability to think critically and are merely indulging their own paranoia. The anticlimactic end of the whole story hasn't received half the attention that the letter did... and the right has all but swept it under the rug and moved on to new non-bombshells that the right desperately need to believe are unthinkable transgressions


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Greta
Right is angry as they should be, as this looks like special treatment.


A few days ago, the Right was lauding Comey as a man of high integrity and principle. Today, like Greta, they are accusing him of giving special treatment to Hilary. Greta's response is the way the Right will react to this development.

Remember that these are fact-allergic, reason-allergic angry individuals emoting themselves from go to woe. To expect a rational response, to expect then to tailor their opinions in the light of new evidence, or even to form opinions on the basis of the evidence in the first place is to have unrealistic expectations.

Nothing is going to make them change their minds. They believe that Hilary is guilty guilty guilty. They''re not sure what she's guilty of, but they're absolutely convinced she's guilty. They will go to their graves believing that Hilary is above the law, that the election is rigged just as Trump still believes he was cheated out that Emmy nomination years ago. It is unreasonable bordering on folly to expect them to behave any differently.

Peon, weren't you saying this woman wasn't off?




Nnanji -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 12:50:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

Actually i think he said the investigation is closed now.



I don't think it's closed... it's ongoing.

But the email bombshell that benefited Trump has been revealed as a non-issue-- the emails on Huma's computer were duplicates or personal.

Look, I know how disappointed you are. We missed the opportunity to make history. The first female US president. The first husband and wife to both be impeached. The first President that worked on jailing Nixon to be found guilty by the Senate and tossed in jail. The whole former first family sharing a sweet of cells in the same federal prison.




Nnanji -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 12:53:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

NO !!

For the right, it's all about partisan political advantage, nothing less. The history of the right and the exec, state, justice and FBI under repub rule, is a story of real pros and either needed countless pardons and resignations or wrote it all off as their version of behind-the scenes patriotism and we are told, necessary to put their illegal or un-legislated and unfunded policies into effect. Dissenters were traitors.

The real trouble in the country today, is that all of their hypocrisy and propaganda works far too well on the moronic voters of the truly unwashed of...their political base.

Oh good, right on time. Tin foil hats for everyone.




mnottertail -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 12:53:28 PM)

But now we get to see the rapist Trump brought to trial at least 3000 times before impeachment.

Its going to be the death of Faux Noise.





Nnanji -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 12:57:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

But now we get to see the rapist Trump brought to trial at least 3000 times before impeachment.

Its going to be the death of Faux Noise.



Ya, and as you've said for months, Hillary is the next President. Oh yes! Isn't it you that holds up the where is the evidence cop out?




PeonForHer -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 1:01:50 PM)

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Peon, weren't you saying this woman wasn't off?


No, you must be thinking of someone else, Curmudgeonly1.




Nnanji -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 1:20:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Peon, weren't you saying this woman wasn't off?


No, you must be thinking of someone else, Curmudgeonly1.

No, I'm sure it was you.




PeonForHer -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 2:24:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Peon, weren't you saying this woman wasn't off?


No, you must be thinking of someone else, Curmudgeonly1.

No, I'm sure it was you.


Well, find me the cite, by all means, Greta.




KenDckey -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 3:57:24 PM)

`Personally I think that Obama is going to issue an 11th hr pardon for the Clintons just like happened to Nixon.




Termyn8or -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 5:01:16 PM)

Nixon did not need a pardon actually.

T^T




mnottertail -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 5:04:11 PM)

why not? he was at great risk for civil suits. he was pardoned for crimes before they were discovered cockgargle8r,




truckinslave -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 6:16:12 PM)

We would have said inactive; but I'm unsure of FBI terminology.
"Closed" investigations can be re-opned on/by a whim, as Director Comey recently showed.
They can also be reopened by, say, a Special Prosecutor




truckinslave -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 6:19:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

Actually i think he said the investigation is closed now.



I don't think it's closed... it's ongoing.

But the email bombshell that benefited Trump has been revealed as a non-issue-- the emails on Huma's computer were duplicates or personal.

Look, I know how disappointed you are. We missed the opportunity to make history. The first female US president. The first husband and wife to both be impeached. The first President that worked on jailing Nixon to be found guilty by the Senate and tossed in jail. The whole former first family sharing a sweet of cells in the same federal prison.


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Nnanji -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 6:31:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Peon, weren't you saying this woman wasn't off?


No, you must be thinking of someone else, Curmudgeonly1.

No, I'm sure it was you.


Well, find me the cite, by all means, Greta.

Meh, weeks ago. Not worth the effort.




heavyblinker -> RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more critical of its media? (11/9/2016 9:02:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
I see, your latest batch of koolaid is making you feel better about the election. All of those ignorant right wingers are bad and Hillary people are good. Ya, this election showed just which news agencies were in the tank for the politicians and it wasn't Fox News.

But look what you have to look forward to. Ever since Bob Dole was given his silly turn to run for POTUS, republicans have been working hard to purge the government media complex. This year at least showed effort on our part. The Dems put up their Bob Dole anngot asses kicked. A few tried to get an outsider in, Bernie, but the government media complex took care that it was only a show. Maybe, you'll join us and quit electing the person who the establishment says it's their turn. Probably you won't. The lessons you get with your koolaid has you pretty bedazzled.


I was talking about Comey's announcement and the fact that they didn't find anything... what are you talking about?

And yes, the media was overwhelmingly on Hillary's side... and no GOP candidate has ever failed to secure media endorsements on the same level as Trump in the history of the media.

I'm frankly amazed that you can believe this is due to some sort of establishment conspiracy as opposed to considering the possibility that the people whose job it is to investigate, interpret and report reality were morally and ethically opposed to a Trump presidency.

You can lob cliches like 'drink the kool aid' around and pretend that your perspective is the result of careful consideration all you like-- it isn't going to change anything. Trump will never gain the support of the majority that voted against him, ever. As much as they voted for dramatic, horrifying changes to America, they also voted for aggressive resistance by the people who oppose those changes.

He isn't a compromise candidate, and America is going to fall apart because his opponents prefer that to living in the kind of country that he wants to build.




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