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Now that we know the truth, will the right be more crit... - 11/6/2016 10:29:58 PM   
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So now that the 'reopened investigation' revealed absolutely nothing as expected, is there even a small chance that the rabid right will re-evaluate its relationship with FOX, etc... and realize that the conspiracies it was spewing before this point were designed solely to manipulate them? Will they own up to their out-of-control paranoia and calm the fuck down?

I can remember someone on this forum saying that they were sure Hillary was guilty of murder and that the folder was marked 'life insurance' because it was blackmail leverage or something. These are not the thoughts of someone who has any control over their own brain.

My guess is that the right will simply forget about it and continue to believe all of the bullshit. They will assume that they're not hearing the full story and that the reason this whole thing fizzled out was due to corruption and a broken justice system. Once again they will consider themselves 'independent thinkers' despite the fact that they don't have the facts, don't have the ability to think critically and are merely indulging their own paranoia. The anticlimactic end of the whole story hasn't received half the attention that the letter did... and the right has all but swept it under the rug and moved on to new non-bombshells that the right desperately need to believe are unthinkable transgressions, like this one:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/05/leaked-transcript-bill-clinton-says-political-system-is-rigged-and-hillary-deserves-the-white-house/

^Terrible, misleading article in which they think that saying 'the political system is rigged' is the same as saying 'the election is rigged'... trying to mislead their idiotic readers into thinking Clinton agrees with Trump. There is nothing wrong with suggesting that someone who has worked for the nation's government to the best of her ability deserves the top job, which, agree or disagree, is exactly the sentiment Bill was putting forward.

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/6/2016 10:42:45 PM   
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Personally, I think there is Obama Presidential Level Pressure for FBI to fall in place on this issue.

Hillary has been careless with her emails using a private server.

If this was anybody else "lower ranking", that person would have been fired.

Comey hands are tied.

But end of the day, he is simply informing that an investigation has reopened and he does not know the result yet. Just informing. Nothing wrong with that.

Right is angry as they should be, as this looks like special treatment.

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/6/2016 10:44:32 PM   
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Personally, I think there is Obama Presidential Level Pressure for FBI to fall in place on this issue.

Hillary has been careless with her emails using a private server.

If this was anybody else "lower ranking", that person would have been fired.

Comey hands are tied.

But end of the day, he is simply informing that an investigation has reopened and he does not know the result yet. Just informing. Nothing wrong with that.

Right is angry as they should be, as this looks like special treatment.


Actually i think he said the investigation is closed now.

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/6/2016 11:01:55 PM   
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Conservatives are the easiest group of Americans to manipulate in the nation. The fact that those on the left have ethics and standards leaves right wing media to abuse them endlessly. If one uses key words or triggers, you can basically get conservatives to believe just about anything without question. The increase in fake news sites publishing equally fake news bits have found conservatives highly respective to anything they state as true. Have spent some time explaining to these morons that the information they have is rubbish.

I think we should place an educational requirement to be allowed to vote.

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/6/2016 11:04:41 PM   
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What ethics and standards of the left are you referring to?

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/6/2016 11:14:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

So now that the 'reopened investigation' revealed absolutely nothing as expected, is there even a small chance that the rabid right will re-evaluate its relationship with FOX, etc... and realize that the conspiracies it was spewing before this point were designed solely to manipulate them? Will they own up to their out-of-control paranoia and calm the fuck down?

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My guess is that the right will simply forget about it and continue to believe all of the bullshit. They will assume that they're not hearing the full story and that the reason this whole thing fizzled out was due to corruption and a broken justice system. Once again they will consider themselves 'independent thinkers' despite the fact that they don't have the facts, don't have the ability to think critically and are merely indulging their own paranoia. The anticlimactic end of the whole story hasn't received half the attention that the letter did... and the right has all but swept it under the rug and moved on to new non-bombshells that the right desperately need to believe are unthinkable transgressions


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Right is angry as they should be, as this looks like special treatment.


A few days ago, the Right was lauding Comey as a man of high integrity and principle. Today, like Greta, they are accusing him of giving special treatment to Hilary. Greta's response is the way the Right will react to this development.

Remember that these are fact-allergic, reason-allergic angry individuals emoting themselves from go to woe. To expect a rational response, to expect then to tailor their opinions in the light of new evidence, or even to form opinions on the basis of the evidence in the first place is to have unrealistic expectations.

Nothing is going to make them change their minds. They believe that Hilary is guilty guilty guilty. They''re not sure what she's guilty of, but they're absolutely convinced she's guilty. They will go to their graves believing that Hilary is above the law, that the election is rigged just as Trump still believes he was cheated out that Emmy nomination years ago. It is unreasonable bordering on folly to expect them to behave any differently.

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/6/2016 11:23:21 PM   
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Actually i think he said the investigation is closed now.



I don't think it's closed... it's ongoing.

But the email bombshell that benefited Trump has been revealed as a non-issue-- the emails on Huma's computer were duplicates or personal.

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/6/2016 11:27:15 PM   
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Oh ok. My dad who is a Hillary fan told me it was closed. I can't keep up with all of it. Sometimes i think that all of it... on both sides... is an orchestrated 'show' and none of it is really real. It's like they are actors.

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/6/2016 11:55:38 PM   
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Zero confidence and trust in the RNC, the DNC, Hillary, Trump, FBI, CIA, certain courts.....pretty much disgusted with the lot of them.
Not a pretty picture for "democracy. :)

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/7/2016 12:21:35 AM   
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A few days ago, the Right was lauding Comey as a man of high integrity and principle. Today, like Greta, they are accusing him of giving special treatment to Hilary. Greta's response is the way the Right will react to this development.

To me, I am not accusing Comey of giving special treatment to Hillary. I am accusing Obama of giving special Treatment to Hillary. At first FBI said the investigation will take awhile. Won't meet the dateline of this election. Then Obama scolded Comey, and suddenly, it's all close.

Fishy.

Technically Obama appointed Comey. So he works for Obama end of the day. He tried to be fair. I mean look at all the dems asking for him to be fired when he tried to be transparent. Comey was just trying to do his job. But I believe his hands are tied. So I have never once blamed Comey for anything.

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/7/2016 1:04:32 AM   
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quote:

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A few days ago, the Right was lauding Comey as a man of high integrity and principle. Today, like Greta, they are accusing him of giving special treatment to Hilary. Greta's response is the way the Right will react to this development.

To me, I am not accusing Comey of giving special treatment to Hillary. I am accusing Obama of giving special Treatment to Hillary. At first FBI said the investigation will take awhile. Won't meet the dateline of this election. Then Obama scolded Comey, and suddenly, it's all close.

Fishy.

Technically Obama appointed Comey. So he works for Obama end of the day. He tried to be fair. I mean look at all the dems asking for him to be fired when he tried to be transparent. Comey was just trying to do his job. But I believe his hands are tied. So I have never once blamed Comey for anything.


So it was given priority because there was a conspiracy against Comey and it had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the announcement was causing a media shitstorm and could have influenced the outcome of the election? That's what you really think?!

We're not talking about a committee choosing the fake leader of some country that people don't give much thought to, we're talking about the most powerful person in the WORLD.

The fact that the FBI was prepared to sit on this and give Trump a strong advantage on voting day seems to be a lot fishier. It takes minutes to hours for a computer to read the emails and determine that they were duplicates:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/edward-snowden-hillary-clinton-emails_us_581fe27de4b0aac62485334d

I'm not going to leap to any conclusions but I'm having a hard time believing that anyone could be stupid enough to think that after sending that letter it wasn't of the utmost importance to clear up the nature of the emails immediately.

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/7/2016 1:14:36 AM   
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NO !!

For the right, it's all about partisan political advantage, nothing less. The history of the right and the exec, state, justice and FBI under repub rule, is a story of real pros and either needed countless pardons and resignations or wrote it all off as their version of behind-the scenes patriotism and we are told, necessary to put their illegal or un-legislated and unfunded policies into effect. Dissenters were traitors.

The real trouble in the country today, is that all of their hypocrisy and propaganda works far too well on the moronic voters of the truly unwashed of...their political base.

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/7/2016 6:57:23 AM   
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What ethics and standards of the left are you referring to?


Double standards, of course.

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/7/2016 7:07:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

So now that the 'reopened investigation' revealed absolutely nothing as expected, is there even a small chance that the rabid right will re-evaluate its relationship with FOX, etc... and realize that the conspiracies it was spewing before this point were designed solely to manipulate them? Will they own up to their out-of-control paranoia and calm the fuck down?

I can remember someone on this forum saying that they were sure Hillary was guilty of murder and that the folder was marked 'life insurance' because it was blackmail leverage or something. These are not the thoughts of someone who has any control over their own brain.
Well that shows a certain naivety on your part. Whistle-blower Seth Rich was shot and killed. Wikileaks finding the death of one of their sources to be suspicious is not exactly unreasonable in a town where politicians will do anything for power.

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/7/2016 8:14:46 AM   
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Strange, I thought that was just another conspiracy theory
Wiki put out a 20,000$ reward for more info, but they dont seem to be able to get anything but hotair


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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/7/2016 8:25:53 AM   
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Well that shows a certain naivety on your part. Whistle-blower Seth Rich was shot and killed. Wikileaks finding the death of one of their sources to be suspicious is not exactly unreasonable in a town where politicians will do anything for power.


And I was so sure that when the conspiracy finally appeared, it would actually be connected to the topic at hand.

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/7/2016 8:32:29 AM   
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You are new here, expect the expected at the most unexpected times.
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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/7/2016 9:37:55 AM   
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So now that the 'reopened investigation' revealed absolutely nothing as expected, is there even a small chance that the rabid right will re-evaluate its relationship with FOX, etc... and realize that the conspiracies it was spewing before this point were designed solely to manipulate them? Will they own up to their out-of-control paranoia and calm the fuck down?


No. They aren't interested in what's correct. They're interested in their victimization mentality narrative.

To embrace anything else would mean having to take responsibility themselves. That's just not on their radar.

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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/7/2016 10:01:45 AM   
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Don't hold your breath waiting.


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RE: Now that we know the truth, will the right be more ... - 11/9/2016 10:56:10 AM   
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Not exactly.

I look for a special prosecutor in about 90 days.
Maybe Rudy, if he turns down the AG spot.

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