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OsideGirl -> RE: pain (12/18/2016 7:07:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP FR How am I supposed to just 'get over' a brain chemistry dysfunction? I'm fourth generation mood disorder. Probably more than that but there's no knowledge of familial health prior to immigrating here in the late 1800's. Do you also tell Type I diabetics that they could just give up their insulin if they focused more on their partner? Because that's the true comparison here. That's an excuse for you.... it's a crutch. If you focus on your partner instead of yourself you'll notice a big difference in what you can take. (And no... making him coffee in the morning is not what i mean by focusing on him). Medical and psychiatric issues are not a crutch or an excuse, just because you ignore yours.

tamaka -> RE: pain (12/18/2016 7:41:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP FR How am I supposed to just 'get over' a brain chemistry dysfunction? I'm fourth generation mood disorder. Probably more than that but there's no knowledge of familial health prior to immigrating here in the late 1800's. Do you also tell Type I diabetics that they could just give up their insulin if they focused more on their partner? Because that's the true comparison here. That's an excuse for you.... it's a crutch. If you focus on your partner instead of yourself you'll notice a big difference in what you can take. (And no... making him coffee in the morning is not what i mean by focusing on him). Medical and psychiatric issues are not a crutch or an excuse, just because you ignore yours. They certainly can be. And i don't 'Ignore' mine.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: pain (12/18/2016 9:20:03 PM)
Are you by chance into Scientology?

Wayward5oul -> RE: pain (12/18/2016 9:56:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP FR How am I supposed to just 'get over' a brain chemistry dysfunction? I'm fourth generation mood disorder. Probably more than that but there's no knowledge of familial health prior to immigrating here in the late 1800's. Do you also tell Type I diabetics that they could just give up their insulin if they focused more on their partner? Because that's the true comparison here. That's an excuse for you.... it's a crutch. If you focus on your partner instead of yourself you'll notice a big difference in what you can take. (And no... making him coffee in the morning is not what i mean by focusing on him). Are you a medical professional? Because is you are, you would know how irresponsible it is to make statements like this online. Since we know you are not a medical professional, that just means that you are being ignorant.

OsideGirl -> RE: pain (12/19/2016 9:03:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP FR How am I supposed to just 'get over' a brain chemistry dysfunction? I'm fourth generation mood disorder. Probably more than that but there's no knowledge of familial health prior to immigrating here in the late 1800's. Do you also tell Type I diabetics that they could just give up their insulin if they focused more on their partner? Because that's the true comparison here. That's an excuse for you.... it's a crutch. If you focus on your partner instead of yourself you'll notice a big difference in what you can take. (And no... making him coffee in the morning is not what i mean by focusing on him). Are you a medical professional? Because is you are, you would know how irresponsible it is to make statements like this online. Since we know you are not a medical professional, that just means that you are being ignorant. She's made a number of comments that indicate some issues that could use a good go round with a counselor. It also appears that she uses BDSM D/s as a crutch not to deal with those issues. So, even if were true that Des is using her mood disorders as a crutch or an excuse (and I don't believe that she is) - this statement on her part would be the pot calling the kettle black.

LadyPact -> RE: pain (12/19/2016 9:39:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick Are you by chance into Scientology? I was going to ask either that or if she was related to Tom Cruise.

OsideGirl -> RE: pain (12/19/2016 9:41:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick Are you by chance into Scientology? I was going to ask either that or if she was related to Tom Cruise. Nah....Scientologists are against kinky sex too.

LadyPact -> RE: pain (12/19/2016 10:25:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl Nah....Scientologists are against kinky sex too. No kidding? How interesting. Come to think of it, might be a very good explanation of why I don't (personally) know any Scientologists. [:D]

tamaka -> RE: pain (12/19/2016 2:00:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick Are you by chance into Scientology? No i don't know anything about it except that it is a cult.

tamaka -> RE: pain (12/19/2016 2:02:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP FR How am I supposed to just 'get over' a brain chemistry dysfunction? I'm fourth generation mood disorder. Probably more than that but there's no knowledge of familial health prior to immigrating here in the late 1800's. Do you also tell Type I diabetics that they could just give up their insulin if they focused more on their partner? Because that's the true comparison here. That's an excuse for you.... it's a crutch. If you focus on your partner instead of yourself you'll notice a big difference in what you can take. (And no... making him coffee in the morning is not what i mean by focusing on him). Are you a medical professional? Because is you are, you would know how irresponsible it is to make statements like this online. Since we know you are not a medical professional, that just means that you are being ignorant. She's made a number of comments that indicate some issues that could use a good go round with a counselor. It also appears that she uses BDSM D/s as a crutch not to deal with those issues. So, even if were true that Des is using her mood disorders as a crutch or an excuse (and I don't believe that she is) - this statement on her part would be the pot calling the kettle black. My issues are what make me who i am... which is someone very different from most folks... and i am very comfortable with that since i am in the right kind of relationship for me. I'm sorry that from all of your book reading you can't understand or agree with it... but that's not my problem.

tamaka -> RE: pain (12/19/2016 2:06:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP FR How am I supposed to just 'get over' a brain chemistry dysfunction? I'm fourth generation mood disorder. Probably more than that but there's no knowledge of familial health prior to immigrating here in the late 1800's. Do you also tell Type I diabetics that they could just give up their insulin if they focused more on their partner? Because that's the true comparison here. That's an excuse for you.... it's a crutch. If you focus on your partner instead of yourself you'll notice a big difference in what you can take. (And no... making him coffee in the morning is not what i mean by focusing on him). Are you a medical professional? Because is you are, you would know how irresponsible it is to make statements like this online. Since we know you are not a medical professional, that just means that you are being ignorant. Hey...i'm not talking to a 2 year old. She can consider my words and decide for herself what she thinks about them. Maybe she could 'Test the waters' by trying to focus more on her partner instead of herself all of the time and see if that helps her ....or not.

OsideGirl -> RE: pain (12/19/2016 3:12:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP FR How am I supposed to just 'get over' a brain chemistry dysfunction? I'm fourth generation mood disorder. Probably more than that but there's no knowledge of familial health prior to immigrating here in the late 1800's. Do you also tell Type I diabetics that they could just give up their insulin if they focused more on their partner? Because that's the true comparison here. That's an excuse for you.... it's a crutch. If you focus on your partner instead of yourself you'll notice a big difference in what you can take. (And no... making him coffee in the morning is not what i mean by focusing on him). Are you a medical professional? Because is you are, you would know how irresponsible it is to make statements like this online. Since we know you are not a medical professional, that just means that you are being ignorant. She's made a number of comments that indicate some issues that could use a good go round with a counselor. It also appears that she uses BDSM D/s as a crutch not to deal with those issues. So, even if were true that Des is using her mood disorders as a crutch or an excuse (and I don't believe that she is) - this statement on her part would be the pot calling the kettle black. My issues are what make me who i am... which is someone very different from most folks... and i am very comfortable with that since i am in the right kind of relationship for me. I'm sorry that from all of your book reading you can't understand or agree with it... but that's not my problem. Oh, no, I understand it perfectly. You're in a relationship that is crutch for not dealing with your issues (and think it's fine) and think it's okay to belittle someone who is taking care of her legitimate mood disorder by suggesting that she should just get over it and if she doesn't...she's using it as a crutch.

tamaka -> RE: pain (12/19/2016 4:35:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP FR How am I supposed to just 'get over' a brain chemistry dysfunction? I'm fourth generation mood disorder. Probably more than that but there's no knowledge of familial health prior to immigrating here in the late 1800's. Do you also tell Type I diabetics that they could just give up their insulin if they focused more on their partner? Because that's the true comparison here. That's an excuse for you.... it's a crutch. If you focus on your partner instead of yourself you'll notice a big difference in what you can take. (And no... making him coffee in the morning is not what i mean by focusing on him). Are you a medical professional? Because is you are, you would know how irresponsible it is to make statements like this online. Since we know you are not a medical professional, that just means that you are being ignorant. She's made a number of comments that indicate some issues that could use a good go round with a counselor. It also appears that she uses BDSM D/s as a crutch not to deal with those issues. So, even if were true that Des is using her mood disorders as a crutch or an excuse (and I don't believe that she is) - this statement on her part would be the pot calling the kettle black. My issues are what make me who i am... which is someone very different from most folks... and i am very comfortable with that since i am in the right kind of relationship for me. I'm sorry that from all of your book reading you can't understand or agree with it... but that's not my problem. Oh, no, I understand it perfectly. You're in a relationship that is crutch for not dealing with your issues (and think it's fine) and think it's okay to belittle someone who is taking care of her legitimate mood disorder by suggesting that she should just get over it and if she doesn't...she's using it as a crutch. Not at all. Actually being in a traditional relationship was the worse thing for me... way too much stress... way too much responsibility... way to much to handle all of the time. It made my mind go into hyperdrive. I also felt completely unfulfilled being in a 'Business- partner' type of relationship. I know that no one can understand this (well almost no one)... but my mind is free and my soul and body thrive in a real M/s relationship. The only reason why i mentioned focusing more on Him instead of hersellf is because it helps me to thrive instead of 'Just deal with' my 'Issues'. It might do the same for her.

Wayward5oul -> RE: pain (12/19/2016 6:00:01 PM)
Okay, this is totally from my perspective, of how this conversation is going and where I saw issues arise that not only did she not appreciate but that I thought were uncalled for as well. If you can understand this, and also understand that it is a pattern that I see in other posts of yours as well, maybe it will help tp prevent misunderstandings in the future. Saying : quote: That's an excuse for you.... it's a crutch. If you focus on your partner instead of yourself you'll notice a big difference in what you can take. (And no... making him coffee in the morning is not what i mean by ocusing on him). is different from saying quote: The only reason why i mentioned focusing more on Him instead of hersellf is because it helps me to thrive instead of 'Just deal with' my 'Issues'. It might do the same for her. In one, you are passing judgment on her as if you have all the answers and know whats best for her and she is in denial and making excuses for herself. In the other, you are explaining a tactic that works for you, and then suggest that it might work for her. No judgment, no accusations of making excuses, no acting like you know better than her. Just offering another alternative. You say that you told her this, but what you said to her and what you are describing here are two different approaches. One is constructive, one is judgmental.

tamaka -> RE: pain (12/19/2016 6:11:35 PM)
Ok thanks for the perspective. Did i mention i have issues? I'll work on it.

Wayward5oul -> RE: pain (12/19/2016 6:37:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka Ok thanks for the perspective. Did i mention i have issues? I'll work on it. Anyone who says they don't have issues is a liar. Hopefully we are all working on ours in some way.

Taramafor -> RE: pain (12/22/2016 5:59:21 PM)
Pepper on my penis. ... Don't do it. Just trust me on this one. Chances are if you never done it before you're going to want too anyway just to see what it's like. Give me a knife any day.

DesFIP -> RE: pain (12/23/2016 6:02:14 PM)
She's not ignorant, she's dangerous. Proselytizing that codependency cures suicidal ideation. Suggesting people not find top notch professionals, not read the medical literature, not take appropriate treatment. If I had followed her path, I would have buried my daughter as a teen. Instead, because I became healthy, I was able to focus my attention on her needs, making her the first known sufferer of ultra high cycling bipolar to survive till adulthood. And no, she's not codependent either.

tamaka -> RE: pain (12/23/2016 7:04:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP She's not ignorant, she's dangerous. Proselytizing that codependency cures suicidal ideation. Suggesting people not find top notch professionals, not read the medical literature, not take appropriate treatment. If I had followed her path, I would have buried my daughter as a teen. Instead, because I became healthy, I was able to focus my attention on her needs, making her the first known sufferer of ultra high cycling bipolar to survive till adulthood. And no, she's not codependent either. Funny... i thought we were discussing taking a little more pain. I really don't know what you're going on about.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: pain (12/23/2016 7:21:16 PM)
quote: Funny... i thought we were discussing taking a little more pain. Well yes, at first but then it became why we pain sluts were as fucked up as we were, then it became about how you knew how to fix us all by simply focusing on the penis. Next time. pay attention to what is said by whom so I won't have to give you an summary (they usually cost money).

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