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sorry---"religion" is not predicated on a heightened sense of emotion nor does one anecdote a case make.

Surely you jest. You familiar with being caught up in the spirit, revivals, whirling dervish, Salem witch trials, faith healing........


Are you being willfully obtuse or really that naive?

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Is anyone arguing here that all accounts of violence from both sides isn't wrong?

Nope.

The argument is that there wasn't this kind of violence from the Right when Obama was elected.

And yet the Left insists that the Right is where the dangerous lunatics all are.

Because even the right had to admit Obama was a good man. You can't say the same thing about Trump. The majority of Americans don't even want him. He's scary.

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The problem is that leftists make rules based on emotion.

That's one of the weird little things that keeps buzzing around this forum - pushed as it is relentlessly by a few of the loudest and most insistent of right wingers: the Right is driven by reason; the Left by emotion. You must know that left-wingers commonly say the opposite. One could argue till the end of time itself that both is true, or neither is true. It's a waste of energy.

There is a lot to be said about that which is true. But, it will have more meaning when you post pictures of riots and crying that occurred after elections in 2008 or 2012.

Stereotypically Leftists put stock in scientific reasoning (logic) while Rightists put stock in religion and faith (emotion), so not sure how you can say with a straight face liberals are more emotional than conservatives. Westboro Baptist Church is conservative and are just as emotional and destructive as the protesters you're referring to. Conservatives have beat up people, destroyed property, etc in the name of religion and conservative "values".

Trump himself acted emotional after the 2012 election
"DONALD TRUMP CALLED FOR A ‘REVOLUTION’ ON STREETS AFTER BARACK OBAMA WAS RE-ELECTED IN 2012, NOW HE CALLS THE PROTESTS ‘UNFAIR'"

http://www.inquisitr.com/3706125/donald-trump-called-for-a-revolution-on-streets-after-barack-obama-was-re-elected-in-2012-now-he-calls-the-protests-unfair/

Ya right. Pass the kool aid.

You really gonna fight facts with insult? That's rather emotional of you.

Actually, it was a very low energy, low emotion response based on your obvious lack of knowledge but your obvious high level of indoctrination. It was about all your post deserved. This post finds you equally silly. When you actually wish to make reasonable comments, my responses may change.

Hey dipshit, I'm a registered Independent who votes mostly moderate raised by two conservatives and married to a devout Mormon. So where exactly did I get this indoctrination you speak of? I don't fit in any of the boxes conservatives and liberals love to shove themselves into.

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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

Is anyone arguing here that all accounts of violence from both sides isn't wrong?

Nope.

The argument is that there wasn't this kind of violence from the Right when Obama was elected.

And yet the Left insists that the Right is where the dangerous lunatics all are.

Because even the right had to admit Obama was a good man. You can't say the same thing about Trump. The majority of Americans don't even want him. He's scary.

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sorry---"religion" is not predicated on a heightened sense of emotion nor does one anecdote a case make.

Surely you jest. You familiar with being caught up in the spirit, revivals, whirling dervish, Salem witch trials, faith healing........


Are you being willfully obtuse or really that naive?

cut with the superior attitude please, especially as you know nothing about me.

that religion has emotional experiences involved in it does not mean it is predicated on it. see the difference? I could stop right there as that should be enough but...

that said, a number of things about "being caught up in the spirit"---one is, that is predominantly a Christian phrase/experience. ive not seen/read/heard anything about muslims, hindus, jews, etc, being "caught up in the spirit. they are religious too.

second, even in the Christian faith, this is a rarity. most believers do not/have not/will not experience this and don't talk about it in their daily faith lives.

third, spiritual things do not equal emotional things. when people say god is a spirit they aren't saying god is emotions. spirit refers to an animating force distinct from the body. spiritual refers to things not of the body or the world. being caught up in the spirit refers to a communion with god that is not based on physical things. can emotions be a part of that? yes, but being caught up in the spirit is not dependent on emotions, nor is the experience selective in that it only comes to people who are more emotional than their peers.

as far as "whirling dervish"---gee, how many dervishes are there compared to just everyday normal old muslims? one in a few million? I trust you get that point? that said, the religious ecstasy that the dervishes pursue or experience is an end product of their devotion, not the genesis of it.

a revival is a re-awakening of interest. that certain people experience emotion as a part of revivals is no different than people experiencing emotions in any other part of life when they are getting reacquainted with aspects of their life in which distance has opened up. if I see a long lost friend and we renew our friendship, are we happy, yes, but the revival is not based merely or even predominantly on emotion. its based on a host of things, namely shared experiences, mutual affection and respect. and sorry, affection and respect does not equal emotion either.

witch trials? lets see, in essence how are they any different than the bad jurisprudence that occurs outside of religion? that is, they are motivated by immoral desires (no that does not equal emotion either) to retain power, punish enemies, exert control, purify populations, etc.

faith healing? excuse me? belief that god can heal through prayer is not an emotion. its a belief. and its a belief based on either the historical record of the bible, particular passages in the bible, and some people's life experiences. regardless, faith is a virtue, not an emotion.

speaking for the Christian faith---whats at the heart of it is a love of god. yes there is emotion involved but its also a volitional act of the will that is no different than that given in other relationships. so, sorry, the liberal, communist, socialist, collectivists---whatever you want to call them, experience the same thing in relation to their children and parents, as do believers with god. so to call one side "more emotional" based on its deeper engagement with religion is to completely miss that point. never mind that there are indeed people who identify on the left who are believers also.

as a part of this--though you didn't say it, its heavily implied that because of their involvement in religion/belief in god, that the people on the right are therefore less "scientific" is absurd. the two spheres of life are not exclusive, and rather in fact, inform each other.

lastly, what to do with the liberals and other democrats who believe? traitors to the scientific cause the lot of them right? there are no liberal churches in America after all.

so---hows that for obtuse and naïve??

oh---and go back to the chart ive posted twice here, showing how the left scores higher on the "F" part of the personality tests. yes I get that personality testing isn't hard science, yes I get that "F", how its interpreted doesn't totally mean "feelings/emotion", but if you want to talk about meaningful differences between left and right when it comes to these sorts of things, its a better place to start than your blanket assertion.

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Is anyone arguing here that all accounts of violence from both sides isn't wrong?

Nope.

The argument is that there wasn't this kind of violence from the Right when Obama was elected.

And yet the Left insists that the Right is where the dangerous lunatics all are.

Because even the right had to admit Obama was a good man. You can't say the same thing about Trump. The majority of Americans don't even want him. He's scary.

And there is your inanity. Someone that votes for abortion while a child is being born isn't good. Someone that can leave men and women in the field to be killed and left isn't good. Someone that can look you in the eye and lie to you isn't good. I can go on, but you're an idiot so what's the point.

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The problem is that leftists make rules based on emotion.

That's one of the weird little things that keeps buzzing around this forum - pushed as it is relentlessly by a few of the loudest and most insistent of right wingers: the Right is driven by reason; the Left by emotion. You must know that left-wingers commonly say the opposite. One could argue till the end of time itself that both is true, or neither is true. It's a waste of energy.

There is a lot to be said about that which is true. But, it will have more meaning when you post pictures of riots and crying that occurred after elections in 2008 or 2012.

Stereotypically Leftists put stock in scientific reasoning (logic) while Rightists put stock in religion and faith (emotion), so not sure how you can say with a straight face liberals are more emotional than conservatives. Westboro Baptist Church is conservative and are just as emotional and destructive as the protesters you're referring to. Conservatives have beat up people, destroyed property, etc in the name of religion and conservative "values".

Trump himself acted emotional after the 2012 election
"DONALD TRUMP CALLED FOR A ‘REVOLUTION’ ON STREETS AFTER BARACK OBAMA WAS RE-ELECTED IN 2012, NOW HE CALLS THE PROTESTS ‘UNFAIR'"

http://www.inquisitr.com/3706125/donald-trump-called-for-a-revolution-on-streets-after-barack-obama-was-re-elected-in-2012-now-he-calls-the-protests-unfair/

Ya right. Pass the kool aid.

You really gonna fight facts with insult? That's rather emotional of you.

Actually, it was a very low energy, low emotion response based on your obvious lack of knowledge but your obvious high level of indoctrination. It was about all your post deserved. This post finds you equally silly. When you actually wish to make reasonable comments, my responses may change.

Hey dipshit, I'm a registered Independent who votes mostly moderate raised by two conservatives and married to a devout Mormon. So where exactly did I get this indoctrination you speak of? I don't fit in any of the boxes conservatives and liberals love to shove themselves into.

Well...baby girl...you'd have to answer that question. Since your statement was pure inane and liberal indoctrination I'd be curious if I were you.

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Is anyone arguing here that all accounts of violence from both sides isn't wrong?

Nope.

The argument is that there wasn't this kind of violence from the Right when Obama was elected.

And yet the Left insists that the Right is where the dangerous lunatics all are.

Because even the right had to admit Obama was a good man. You can't say the same thing about Trump. The majority of Americans don't even want him. He's scary.

And there is your inanity. Someone that votes for abortion while a child is being born isn't good. Someone that can leave men and women in the field to be killed and left isn't good. Someone that can look you in the eye and lie to you isn't good. I can go on, but you're an idiot so what's the point.

You this dismissive of everyone who doesn't think like you? If so, don't pretend you want to engage in civil discourse. You're just as bad as the cry baby temper tantrum throwing leftists you have so much distaste for. There is a Dr. Seuss book about this very thing but it seems no one in this thread learned anything in grade school.

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The problem is that leftists make rules based on emotion.

That's one of the weird little things that keeps buzzing around this forum - pushed as it is relentlessly by a few of the loudest and most insistent of right wingers: the Right is driven by reason; the Left by emotion. You must know that left-wingers commonly say the opposite. One could argue till the end of time itself that both is true, or neither is true. It's a waste of energy.

There is a lot to be said about that which is true. But, it will have more meaning when you post pictures of riots and crying that occurred after elections in 2008 or 2012.

Stereotypically Leftists put stock in scientific reasoning (logic) while Rightists put stock in religion and faith (emotion), so not sure how you can say with a straight face liberals are more emotional than conservatives. Westboro Baptist Church is conservative and are just as emotional and destructive as the protesters you're referring to. Conservatives have beat up people, destroyed property, etc in the name of religion and conservative "values".

Trump himself acted emotional after the 2012 election
"DONALD TRUMP CALLED FOR A ‘REVOLUTION’ ON STREETS AFTER BARACK OBAMA WAS RE-ELECTED IN 2012, NOW HE CALLS THE PROTESTS ‘UNFAIR'"

http://www.inquisitr.com/3706125/donald-trump-called-for-a-revolution-on-streets-after-barack-obama-was-re-elected-in-2012-now-he-calls-the-protests-unfair/

Ya right. Pass the kool aid.

You really gonna fight facts with insult? That's rather emotional of you.

Actually, it was a very low energy, low emotion response based on your obvious lack of knowledge but your obvious high level of indoctrination. It was about all your post deserved. This post finds you equally silly. When you actually wish to make reasonable comments, my responses may change.

Hey dipshit, I'm a registered Independent who votes mostly moderate raised by two conservatives and married to a devout Mormon. So where exactly did I get this indoctrination you speak of? I don't fit in any of the boxes conservatives and liberals love to shove themselves into.

Well...baby girl...you'd have to answer that question. Since your statement was pure inane and liberal indoctrination I'd be curious if I were you.

Do you deny the fact Trump had called for violent action against his opponents?

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The problem is that leftists make rules based on emotion.

That's one of the weird little things that keeps buzzing around this forum - pushed as it is relentlessly by a few of the loudest and most insistent of right wingers: the Right is driven by reason; the Left by emotion. You must know that left-wingers commonly say the opposite. One could argue till the end of time itself that both is true, or neither is true. It's a waste of energy.

There is a lot to be said about that which is true. But, it will have more meaning when you post pictures of riots and crying that occurred after elections in 2008 or 2012.

Stereotypically Leftists put stock in scientific reasoning (logic) while Rightists put stock in religion and faith (emotion), so not sure how you can say with a straight face liberals are more emotional than conservatives. Westboro Baptist Church is conservative and are just as emotional and destructive as the protesters you're referring to. Conservatives have beat up people, destroyed property, etc in the name of religion and conservative "values".

Trump himself acted emotional after the 2012 election
"DONALD TRUMP CALLED FOR A ‘REVOLUTION’ ON STREETS AFTER BARACK OBAMA WAS RE-ELECTED IN 2012, NOW HE CALLS THE PROTESTS ‘UNFAIR'"

http://www.inquisitr.com/3706125/donald-trump-called-for-a-revolution-on-streets-after-barack-obama-was-re-elected-in-2012-now-he-calls-the-protests-unfair/

Ya right. Pass the kool aid.

You really gonna fight facts with insult? That's rather emotional of you.

Actually, it was a very low energy, low emotion response based on your obvious lack of knowledge but your obvious high level of indoctrination. It was about all your post deserved. This post finds you equally silly. When you actually wish to make reasonable comments, my responses may change.

Hey dipshit, I'm a registered Independent who votes mostly moderate raised by two conservatives and married to a devout Mormon. So where exactly did I get this indoctrination you speak of? I don't fit in any of the boxes conservatives and liberals love to shove themselves into.

Well...baby girl...you'd have to answer that question. Since your statement was pure inane and liberal indoctrination I'd be curious if I were you.

Do you deny the fact Trump had called for violent action against his opponents?

I know that Hillary's people are busing in and paying people to cause violence. I know that Hillary's people are saying that Trump is all about violence. But Hillary saying it doesn't make it true and leftist parroting it doesn't make it true. You'll have to post links to show its true before you can have it generally accepted in a discussion. When you just say it because that's what you heard when you were given your kool aid, it doesn't fly well.

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http://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#Ld_V3I3r9iqR


http://www.thehypertexts.com/Donald%20Trump%20Violence%20Quotes.htm


He's fucking terrifying. You really want this man with his finger on our nuclear arsenal? For the first time in my life I'm genuinely afraid of Armageddon. I sacred I won't see my children grow up.

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I hope none of this elegant discussion gets anybody hopping up and down like Ann Coulter's Adam's apple when she says "These fucking Jews!"

No but I do shake my head from time to time and wonder if you have to take drugs to dream some of this shit up or does it just come naturally.

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Not much to remember, [Clinton] got laid alot, told the children of the country that a blow job wasn't sex ...

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He's fucking terrifying. You really want this man with his finger on our nuclear arsenal? For the first time in my life I'm genuinely afraid of Armageddon. I'm sacred I won't see my children grow up.

Jeeez, take a deep breath. Hillary was pushing for a U.S. enforced no-fly zone in an area of Russian air operations in Syria, which would be just more American interference in the affairs of a Middle East country, and one where the Russian forces are operating legally. What do you think would happen if American jets started firing on Russian aircraft? Everybody would hand out party hats and sing songs? Trump wants to focus on ISIS, not regime change, and I agree with that view of our priorities. ISIS poses an international threat, Assad doesn't. We can worry about him later.

K.

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Chapelle sums it up quite nicely. White America is going to destroy itself over this.
https://youtu.be/--IS0XiNdpk

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Is anyone arguing here that all accounts of violence from both sides isn't wrong?

Nope.

The argument is that there wasn't this kind of violence from the Right when Obama was elected.

And yet the Left insists that the Right is where the dangerous lunatics all are.

Because even the right had to admit Obama was a good man. You can't say the same thing about Trump. The majority of Americans don't even want him. He's scary.

You won't find any one on the right admitting that Obama was a good man but if Yer scared, arm yerself.