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Nnanji -> RE: The Truth (11/12/2016 10:24:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: No wonder they are protesting and becoming unruly-mob like On the basis of Trump's climate-change denialism alone I could imagine outright fury amongst large swaths of people here, which might well erupt into unruliness on the streets. The idea that this wouldn't happen without some 'big chief' behind it all is just cuckoo-land conspiracy theorising at just about its silliest. At the first DNC meeting after the election a snowflake staffer stood up and yelled at Donna Brazil saying it was her fault that his life expantancy was now 40% less because she had helped select Hillary as the party nominee and because she lost he was now going to die young due to global warming. Certainly I can see that sort becoming unruly anywhere. I'll refrain from stating an opinion regarding it. But, it appears to be the type of concern now creating the unruly rioting mobs.

Lucylastic -> RE: The Truth (11/12/2016 10:32:33 AM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4C2Gl6OD5M

Chaska -> RE: The Truth (11/12/2016 10:47:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic no he actually lost the popular vote. And the Electoral College will vote on Dec 19th. I said he could win, before the election. I called it on election night. Im not surprised as the stupidity of trumps base has been evident on this board for over a year./ If you dont like being derided, dont post shit as the truth that isnt. Its quite simple Also Please dont plead Im "victimising" you, you are giving it, if you cant take it back, quit. Of course you said he could win, so could Hillary. That's an oxymoron. You didn't call shit and went to bed when it was already obvious who was going to win. I posted Why Trump would win it was written off as propaganda turns out he won. Victimising? Hardly you used the words " your own ignorance" " your pathetic attempt to school me" In your typical fashion attempting to come off intelligent to avoid giving a rebuttal apparently you can't do so. So put up or shut up with the asinine comments.

SunDominant -> RE: The Truth (11/12/2016 10:55:09 AM)
I can post anecdotal Youtube videos that do not mean anything. California High School Trump Student BRUTALLY BEATEN by Black Hispanic after Hillary Clinton lost Hillary Supporters harass & bully a homeless woman protecting Trump's Star There are jerkwads in both camps, so what? What I do not remember are mass protests and riots after Obama was elected, and rightly so. One of the archetypal characteristics thrown at progressives is that they eschew logic and shape policy with pure emotional/empathetic goals, and are frequently hypocritical in their application of ethics. Crap like the recent protests only goes to further that stereotype, even though the vast majority of neo-liberals I know (outside of this forum) are nothing like that.

Lucylastic -> RE: The Truth (11/12/2016 11:12:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chaska quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic no he actually lost the popular vote. And the Electoral College will vote on Dec 19th. I said he could win, before the election. I called it on election night. Im not surprised as the stupidity of trumps base has been evident on this board for over a year./ If you dont like being derided, dont post shit as the truth that isnt. Its quite simple Also Please dont plead Im "victimising" you, you are giving it, if you cant take it back, quit. Of course you said he could win, so could Hillary. That's an oxymoron. You didn't call shit and went to bed when it was already obvious who was going to win. I posted Why Trump would win it was written off as propaganda turns out he won. Victimising? Hardly you used the words " your own ignorance" " your pathetic attempt to school me" In your typical fashion attempting to come off intelligent to avoid giving a rebuttal apparently you can't do so. So put up or shut up with the asinine comments. Yeah, Ill get right on that for you.. LOL I had been saying for a long time. I also didnt believe the polls. But Im guessing you didnt go that far back. BUT in response to your "thread" I said quote: For me, its never been a question of can he win LOL Of course he can win. Thats what makes it so pitiful. Im only responsible for what I write, not what you fail to comprehend. but as your truth isnt anything close to it, you can kiss my white fat ass

Lucylastic -> RE: The Truth (11/12/2016 11:23:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SunDominant I can post anecdotal Youtube videos that do not mean anything. California High School Trump Student BRUTALLY BEATEN by Black Hispanic after Hillary Clinton lost Hillary Supporters harass & bully a homeless woman protecting Trump's Star There are jerkwads in both camps, so what? What I do not remember are mass protests and riots after Obama was elected, and rightly so. One of the archetypal characteristics thrown at progressives is that they eschew logic and shape policy with pure emotional/empathetic goals, and are frequently hypocritical in their application of ethics. Crap like the recent protests only goes to further that stereotype, even though the vast majority of neo-liberals I know (outside of this forum) are nothing like that. http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4969528

PeonForHer -> RE: The Truth (11/12/2016 11:26:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: No wonder they are protesting and becoming unruly-mob like On the basis of Trump's climate-change denialism alone I could imagine outright fury amongst large swaths of people here, which might well erupt into unruliness on the streets. The idea that this wouldn't happen without some 'big chief' behind it all is just cuckoo-land conspiracy theorising at just about its silliest. At the first DNC meeting after the election a snowflake staffer stood up and yelled at Donna Brazil saying it was her fault that his life expantancy was now 40% less because she had helped select Hillary as the party nominee and because she lost he was now going to die young due to global warming. Certainly I can see that sort becoming unruly anywhere. I'll refrain from stating an opinion regarding it. But, it appears to be the type of concern now creating the unruly rioting mobs. I stressed the word 'alone' re climate change because that would be enough about Trump to fire up protest. Add in the other oft-mentioned things about him and his policies ... and that would make protest many times more likely again.

SunDominant -> RE: The Truth (11/12/2016 11:26:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4969528 Yep.

Nnanji -> RE: The Truth (11/12/2016 11:29:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: No wonder they are protesting and becoming unruly-mob like On the basis of Trump's climate-change denialism alone I could imagine outright fury amongst large swaths of people here, which might well erupt into unruliness on the streets. The idea that this wouldn't happen without some 'big chief' behind it all is just cuckoo-land conspiracy theorising at just about its silliest. At the first DNC meeting after the election a snowflake staffer stood up and yelled at Donna Brazil saying it was her fault that his life expantancy was now 40% less because she had helped select Hillary as the party nominee and because she lost he was now going to die young due to global warming. Certainly I can see that sort becoming unruly anywhere. I'll refrain from stating an opinion regarding it. But, it appears to be the type of concern now creating the unruly rioting mobs. I stressed the word 'alone' re climate change because that would be enough about Trump to fire up protest. Add in the other oft-mentioned things about him and his policies ... and that would make protest many times more likely again. Peon, I saw what you wrote and agreed with you.

Chaska -> RE: The Truth (11/12/2016 12:10:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: Chaska quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic no he actually lost the popular vote. And the Electoral College will vote on Dec 19th. I said he could win, before the election. I called it on election night. Im not surprised as the stupidity of trumps base has been evident on this board for over a year./ If you dont like being derided, dont post shit as the truth that isnt. Its quite simple Also Please dont plead Im "victimising" you, you are giving it, if you cant take it back, quit. Of course you said he could win, so could Hillary. That's an oxymoron. You didn't call shit and went to bed when it was already obvious who was going to win. I posted Why Trump would win it was written off as propaganda turns out he won. Victimising? Hardly you used the words " your own ignorance" " your pathetic attempt to school me" In your typical fashion attempting to come off intelligent to avoid giving a rebuttal apparently you can't do so. So put up or shut up with the asinine comments. Yeah, Ill get right on that for you.. LOL I had been saying for a long time. I also didnt believe the polls. But Im guessing you didnt go that far back. BUT in response to your "thread" I said quote: For me, its never been a question of can he win LOL Of course he can win. Thats what makes it so pitiful. Im only responsible for what I write, not what you fail to comprehend. but as your truth isnt anything close to it, you can kiss my white fat ass Nice try at diverting what you said on election night when it was obvious who was going to win. You didn't call shit and went to bed when it was already obvious who was going to win. You said: "Well Im off to bed...trump wins. nite everyone. crazy is an understatement. Gonna be a bumpy ride ahead, congrats and good luck." Here Responsible for what you write? Then own it! I comprehend very well thank you, try it sometime. Who cares about polls that wasn't the discussion here diverting again. I have no intention on kissing your nasty white ass not my thing. Back to you can either give a rebuttal or you can't which one is it? BTW: As far as the electoral college it's a petition of about "Around 3.3 million people ( The whinny baby sintrom ) so far.

Kirata -> RE: The Truth (11/12/2016 12:48:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata ~ FR ~ In all, Mr. Soros gave at least $33 million in one year to support already-established groups that emboldened the grass-roots, on-the-ground activists in Ferguson, according to the most recent tax filings of his nonprofit Open Society Foundations. The financial tether from Mr. Soros to the activist groups gave rise to a combustible protest movement that transformed a one-day criminal event in Missouri into a 24-hour-a-day national cause celebre. Soros-sponsored organizations helped mobilize protests in Ferguson, building grass-roots coalitions on the ground backed by a nationwide online and social media campaign. Other Soros-funded groups made it their job to remotely monitor and exploit anything related to the incident that they could portray as a conservative misstep, and to develop academic research and editorials to disseminate to the news media to keep the story alive. ~Snopes Snopes goes on the say that none of this should be construed to indicate that Soros personally funded anything or approved of the grants. But his money keeps turning up in the hands of the usual suspects. shel adelson(the rightwing soros), gave 25 million to just ONE of trumps superpacs back in september(http://fortune.com/2016/09/20/donald-trump-donation/) and He was going to spend 45 million in the repub races.(http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/19/politics/sheldon-adelson-2016-spending/index.html) he also spent 100 million on the last election on romney Oh and the Kochs tried to buy as much as they could. Neither my post nor Snopes was talking about contributions to a candidate, but thanks for the entertainment. K.

Nnanji -> RE: The Truth (11/12/2016 1:46:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata ~ FR ~ In all, Mr. Soros gave at least $33 million in one year to support already-established groups that emboldened the grass-roots, on-the-ground activists in Ferguson, according to the most recent tax filings of his nonprofit Open Society Foundations. The financial tether from Mr. Soros to the activist groups gave rise to a combustible protest movement that transformed a one-day criminal event in Missouri into a 24-hour-a-day national cause celebre. Soros-sponsored organizations helped mobilize protests in Ferguson, building grass-roots coalitions on the ground backed by a nationwide online and social media campaign. Other Soros-funded groups made it their job to remotely monitor and exploit anything related to the incident that they could portray as a conservative misstep, and to develop academic research and editorials to disseminate to the news media to keep the story alive. ~Snopes Snopes goes on the say that none of this should be construed to indicate that Soros personally funded anything or approved of the grants. But his money keeps turning up in the hands of the usual suspects. shel adelson(the rightwing soros), gave 25 million to just ONE of trumps superpacs back in september(http://fortune.com/2016/09/20/donald-trump-donation/) and He was going to spend 45 million in the repub races.(http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/19/politics/sheldon-adelson-2016-spending/index.html) he also spent 100 million on the last election on romney Oh and the Kochs tried to buy as much as they could. Neither my post nor Snopes was talking about contributions to a candidate, but thanks for the entertainment. K. She's having a couple of really tough days.

KenDckey -> RE: The Truth (11/12/2016 4:18:19 PM)
So I have been watching the news from various sources and listening to the folks on a political forum that I belong to and here is my take on the election: 1-Trump won. If you discount California, he won by about 2,000,000 votes. But counting California, he lost the popular vote by a half a million. 2-The Electoral College is sworn to cast their votes according to their individual state laws. Many call for them to revolt and vote for Clinton. Last I heard from some news service is that two Democrats and two Republican pledged votes will each jump sides. 3-Even if the Electoral College voted Clinton in, the US House of Representatives could overthrow that as an invalid vote and count based upon state law. 4-I support people’s right to protest. They can walk up and down the sidewalk all they want as long as they don’t impede others rights of free peace, travel, life, liberty, thought, pursuit of happiness. To me the best protest would be to change the Constitution. The violence seen is criminal and I personally hope they find each and every one that violates the law and prosecutes them according to the law. 5-Democrats are the Party of Tolerance, at least according to the leader of our country. Where did that tolerance go? I have no clue. Where is the tolerance of our election laws? Where is the tolerance of our countries traditions? 6-We are a Republic. Actually we are a Representative Republic. If we were a Democracy, we would have to spend our lives in the polling stations deciding on whether or not the government could purchase a single pencil or piece of paper. We have never been a Democracy. Even our Declaration of Independence was signed by our representatives and not every single person in agreement with it. 7-For the protesters that said they would move out of the country if Trump was elected. Please do. May I suggest Mexico. I don’t believe their immigration laws are as stringent as Canada’s. 8-For those that burn the American Flag, stop. To many have fought and died for it’s principles. That is who you are disrespecting. 9-For those that march under the Mexican Flag yelling “Trump is not my President,” go back to Mexico, you are right. You have enough issues in your country to worry about, we don’t need your help creating more. 10-Bottom line. Protest if you want and don’t violate anyone else’s rights.

Kirata -> RE: The Truth (11/12/2016 6:23:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey 5-Democrats are the Party of Tolerance, at least according to the leader of our country. Where did that tolerance go? I have no clue. Where is the tolerance of our election laws? Where is the tolerance of our countries traditions? Well there's tolerance and then there's the "liberating" tolerance practiced by decent and intelligent people. tolerance of the Left, subversion, and revolutionary violence, combined with intolerance of the Right, existing institutions of civil society, and opposition to socialism. ~Source K.

Nnanji -> RE: The Truth (11/13/2016 9:22:29 AM)
Is that a link not linking?

Kirata -> RE: The Truth (11/13/2016 1:58:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Is that a link not linking? What? K.

Nnanji -> RE: The Truth (11/13/2016 2:02:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Is that a link not linking? What? K. Is the blue in post 54 a link?

Kirata -> RE: The Truth (11/13/2016 2:07:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Is that a link not linking? What? Is the blue in post 54 a link? No, the blue isn't a link. It's a quoted excerpt from the page linked as "~Source". K.

tamaka -> RE: The Truth (11/13/2016 2:39:30 PM)
That sounds like a book that we should all read. Thanks for sharing it.

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