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tamaka -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/25/2016 9:51:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LordHawke quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka Too bad the democrats didn't run Bernie... eh? And i think before you comment on the society that rejects blacks you might want to think about the fact that we elected one to our highest office... twice. I agree that education needs a lot of work here. I think Trump picked a person who is a proponent of charter schools for Department of Education... a great step in the right direction. He wants to get rid of common core. Sounds good to me. Having a black president doesn't get rid of racism... and no matter how Obama actually identifies, he didn't have a typical black American upbringing. I don't know why you think the solution is to increase the number of charter schools as opposed to revamping the public school system. But I will say that if Trump took it upon himself to revamp the public education system I would be very very nervous about what he would do to it. No but if you are a racist nation you won't elect a black man. so what youre saying is if Obama had been defeated, that would prove, in and of itself, that America is racist....and you wonder why people vote R No but the fact that he was elected (did i mention twice?) certainly disproves the idea that America is a racist nation.

BamaD -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/25/2016 10:54:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: LordHawke quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka Too bad the democrats didn't run Bernie... eh? And i think before you comment on the society that rejects blacks you might want to think about the fact that we elected one to our highest office... twice. I agree that education needs a lot of work here. I think Trump picked a person who is a proponent of charter schools for Department of Education... a great step in the right direction. He wants to get rid of common core. Sounds good to me. Having a black president doesn't get rid of racism... and no matter how Obama actually identifies, he didn't have a typical black American upbringing. I don't know why you think the solution is to increase the number of charter schools as opposed to revamping the public school system. But I will say that if Trump took it upon himself to revamp the public education system I would be very very nervous about what he would do to it. No but if you are a racist nation you won't elect a black man. so what youre saying is if Obama had been defeated, that would prove, in and of itself, that America is racist....and you wonder why people vote R No but the fact that he was elected (did i mention twice?) certainly disproves the idea that America is a racist nation. Yes, I agree completely .

heavyblinker -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 12:49:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD There will be racists in any society, even in the great white north. What do you say about the people who have only voted for a white man if there are no blacks running for the office? Do you understand that a nation that has some racists in it is not at all the same as a racist nation? What does that even mean 'racist nation'? Are you saying that there is an objective measure of such a thing? Is there some sort of quota where after you have so many policies of a certain kind, you move from being a racist nation to a non-racist nation? Okay... so what do you think should happen when a country reaches that quota? Is that the point where everyone just accepts that there's nothing more anyone can do and we all just focus on more important things? It's just such an absurd way of looking at things. And anyways, I was talking about how racism limits opportunities available to minorities... even if you have equal opportunity policies it doesn't get rid of the cultural barriers. It doesn't improve schools in minority communities. It doesn't get rid of the drug epidemics, the crime, the police presence, the disproportionate amount of jail sentences... whether or not other countries have more racist people in them has zero bearing on whether or not these things are a problem. Now instead of listening you should just argue against another straw man, because it will make you feel better.

heavyblinker -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 1:18:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka No but the fact that he was elected (did i mention twice?) certainly disproves the idea that America is a racist nation. Agggh now other people are arguing against BamaD's straw man. Oh hey since you clearly think that the KKK will rule the world, will you allow black people to return to their natural slave roles or simply exterminate them all? Will you allow Latinos to do your yard work or do you think that Chinese people are better because of their superior work ethic?

BamaD -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 3:56:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka No but the fact that he was elected (did i mention twice?) certainly disproves the idea that America is a racist nation. Agggh now other people are arguing against BamaD's straw man. Oh hey since you clearly think that the KKK will rule the world, will you allow black people to return to their natural slave roles or simply exterminate them all? Will you allow Latinos to do your yard work or do you think that Chinese people are better because of their superior work ethic? What are you drinking?

BamaD -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 4:07:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD There will be racists in any society, even in the great white north. What do you say about the people who have only voted for a white man if there are no blacks running for the office? Do you understand that a nation that has some racists in it is not at all the same as a racist nation? What does that even mean 'racist nation'? Are you saying that there is an objective measure of such a thing? Is there some sort of quota where after you have so many policies of a certain kind, you move from being a racist nation to a non-racist nation? Okay... so what do you think should happen when a country reaches that quota? Is that the point where everyone just accepts that there's nothing more anyone can do and we all just focus on more important things? It's just such an absurd way of looking at things. And anyways, I was talking about how racism limits opportunities available to minorities... even if you have equal opportunity policies it doesn't get rid of the cultural barriers. It doesn't improve schools in minority communities. It doesn't get rid of the drug epidemics, the crime, the police presence, the disproportionate amount of jail sentences... whether or not other countries have more racist people in them has zero bearing on whether or not these things are a problem. Now instead of listening you should just argue against another straw man, because it will make you feel better. Nazi Germany was a racist nation. South Africa was a racist nation. If you declare any nation with any racists in it is a racist nation then every nation in the world becomes a racist nation including Canada which as we all know is perfect. And yes there are things to measure, a racist nation does not have affirmative action for the "victims" . A racist nation does not elect a member of the victim group as their leader. To avoid the dread result of you calling them names do we have to engage a secret police prosecuting anyone who can be thought to have even spoken a word that may have offended any minority? I am part Indian, does that mean I have the right to go after anyone who has a bad opinion of Indians? Do you want to found the thought police? Start in Canada and see how that works.

BamaD -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 4:19:06 AM)
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heavyblinker -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 4:31:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Nazi Germany was a racist nation. South Africa was a racist nation. If you declare any nation with any racists in it is a racist nation then every nation in the world becomes a racist nation including Canada which as we all know is perfect. And yes there are things to measure, a racist nation does not have affirmative action for the "victims" . A racist nation does not elect a member of the victim group as their leader. To avoid the dread result of you calling them names do we have to engage a secret police prosecuting anyone who can be thought to have even spoken a word that may have offended any minority? I am part Indian, does that mean I have the right to go after anyone who has a bad opinion of Indians? Do you want to found the thought police? Start in Canada and see how that works. Why are you even going on about this? Did I say anything about racist nations before you brought it up? Did I call the US a racist nation? Okay yes, congratulations, USA is currently less racist than Nazi Germany and apartheid-era South Africa... you're proud of this? This can't change? This in no way connects to the point I was originally making, btw. Now you're talking about the secret police and political correctness and going after people... why?? Oh wait, you're talking about the protests? So are you comparing random powerless people to the president of the United States?

heavyblinker -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 4:40:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD To many to post them all. racial prejudice in canada AllNewsImagesShoppingMapsMore SettingsTools About 476,000 results (0.70 seconds) Search Results Canada's racism problem? It's even worse than America's. - Maclean's www.macleans.ca/news/canada/out-of-sight-out-of-mind-2/ Jan 22, 2015 - The racial mess in the United States looks pretty grim and is painful to watch. We can be forgiven for being quietly thankful for Canada's more ... Prejudice and Discrimination in Canada - The Canadian Encyclopedia www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/prejudice-and-discrimination/ Some 22,000 Japanese Canadians were relocated to the interior of BC and to other provinces, where they continued to encounter racial prejudice. Racism in Canada - Huffington Post www.huffingtonpost.ca/news/racism-in-canada/ It would dawn on me that as a young black male in casual street clothes at midnight in the act of placing hospital property into my personal bag, there was a ... Prejudice Examples in Canada\|NoBullying\| https://nobullying.com/prejudice-examples-in-canada/ Dec 22, 2015 - Discover some of the most shocking Prejudice Examples in Canada and what the ... programs in place to prevent future acts of racial prejudice. Racial Prejudice Thrives in Canada - henrymakow.com henrymakow.com/2016/08/Racial-Prejudice-Thrives-in-Canada.html Aug 22, 2016 - I would like to share my personal experiences growing up as an African American in Canada to allow you to see the world through my eyes and ... Prejudice against Blacks in Ontario \| Students exploring inequality in ... https://inequalitygaps.org/.../racism...canada/prejudice-against-blacks-in-... Canada has come a long way to overcome racism and prejudice, there considerable work that needs to be done. This page explores the situation in Ontario, ... Racism still an uncomfortable truth in Canada: Duncan McCue - CBC www.cbc.ca/.../canada/racism-still-an-uncomfortable-truth-in-canada-du... Nov 12, 2014 - "Racism is still quite prevalent in Canada," said Kawakami. "Explicit racism and prejudice is decreasing, but if you talk to a lot of minorities ... Remove the beam from your eye before complaining about the mote in your neighbors eye. So I guess I said there's no racism in Canada, then. Wow, good to know.

heavyblinker -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 4:52:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD I am part Indian, does that mean I have the right to go after anyone who has a bad opinion of Indians? If you're part Indian then why are you a white supremacist? How would you feel if someone burned crosses on your lawn? Maybe the next time you decide to attend a Klan rally, you should take a good hard look in the mirror and ask yourself if a truly superior person would even need to resort to such tactics. (do you see what I did there?)

BamaD -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 5:12:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD I am part Indian, does that mean I have the right to go after anyone who has a bad opinion of Indians? If you're part Indian then why are you a white supremacist? How would you feel if someone burned crosses on your lawn? Maybe the next time you decide to attend a Klan rally, you should take a good hard look in the mirror and ask yourself if a truly superior person would even need to resort to such tactics. (do you see what I did there?) I am not a white supremacist and I challenge you to find anything that says I am to any rational person , that of course doesn't mean you as you blow every disagreement into some horrible flaw in the other person. in the first place since my neighborhood is 75% black doubt that Klansmen would live long enough to set up a cross. 2nd To do so would be unhealthy. You apparently don't know that cross burning went out long ago. I didn't bring up racism, I responded to someone who did. Who said the "protesters are more powerful than the president. That is silly, though they seem to think they can dictate the outcome of elections. The Constitution protects the right of peaceful protest, not to riot, they call it protest to make it sound like something legitimate not lawless extortion. (Yes, I saw you drift off into fantasy land once again)

thishereboi -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 5:42:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD I am part Indian, does that mean I have the right to go after anyone who has a bad opinion of Indians? If you're part Indian then why are you a white supremacist? How would you feel if someone burned crosses on your lawn? Maybe the next time you decide to attend a Klan rally, you should take a good hard look in the mirror and ask yourself if a truly superior person would even need to resort to such tactics. (do you see what I did there?) I saw it, you lied about another poster hoping others would just take your word for it without question. So now I guess you are the one who should ask yourself if a truly superior person would even need to resort to such tactics. And since we are talking about lying perhaps you could show us a link where tamaka said she thinks the KKK will rule the world. (your claim in post 304) or admit you either lack comprehension of basic english or just like to tell stories with the hope they will make you look better by comparison.

heavyblinker -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 5:50:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD (Yes, I saw you drift off into fantasy land once again) No, I responded to something you didn't actually say, and called you something you've never claimed to be. This is exactly what you do to everyone on this board who doesn't agree with you.

BamaD -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 5:51:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD (Yes, I saw you drift off into fantasy land once again) No, I responded to something you didn't actually say, and called you something you've never claimed to be. This is exactly what you do to everyone on this board who doesn't agree with you. No I don't.

heavyblinker -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 5:56:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi I saw it, you lied about another poster hoping others would just take your word for it without question. So now I guess you are the one who should ask yourself if a truly superior person would even need to resort to such tactics. And since we are talking about lying perhaps you could show us a link where tamaka said she thinks the KKK will rule the world. (your claim in post 304) or admit you either lack comprehension of basic english or just like to tell stories with the hope they will make you look better by comparison. No, I was trying to explain what a straw man is by using examples. I did this because simply telling these people they're using straw man arguments doesn't work. I honestly didn't expect anyone to take these claims seriously (because they're so absurd), but I guess I need to tone down the subtlety and irony and work on explaining it to you like you're a 4 year old.

BamaD -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 6:23:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi I saw it, you lied about another poster hoping others would just take your word for it without question. So now I guess you are the one who should ask yourself if a truly superior person would even need to resort to such tactics. And since we are talking about lying perhaps you could show us a link where tamaka said she thinks the KKK will rule the world. (your claim in post 304) or admit you either lack comprehension of basic english or just like to tell stories with the hope they will make you look better by comparison. No, I was trying to explain what a straw man is by using examples. I did this because simply telling these people they're using straw man arguments doesn't work. I honestly didn't expect anyone to take these claims seriously (because they're so absurd), but I guess I need to tone down the subtlety and irony and work on explaining it to you like you're a 4 year old. There s nothing subtle about accusing a person of believing the Klan will rule te world. I see that you will now rely on condescension, after all no reasonable intelligent person could ever disagree with you. If you think that the fact that what you said would not be taken seriously you must not have read many of the posts that other leftest put out, they tend to be at least as absurd.

heavyblinker -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 7:05:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD There s nothing subtle about accusing a person of believing the Klan will rule te world. I see that you will now rely on condescension, after all no reasonable intelligent person could ever disagree with you. If you think that the fact that what you said would not be taken seriously you must not have read many of the posts that other leftest put out, they tend to be at least as absurd. I was using absurd examples to prove my point in a not-so-direct fashion. And since whenever you talk about 'leftists' you're not actually talking about real people, I think it's safe to assume that reality disagrees with you.

BamaD -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 7:31:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD There s nothing subtle about accusing a person of believing the Klan will rule te world. I see that you will now rely on condescension, after all no reasonable intelligent person could ever disagree with you. If you think that the fact that what you said would not be taken seriously you must not have read many of the posts that other leftest put out, they tend to be at least as absurd. I was using absurd examples to prove my point in a not-so-direct fashion. And since whenever you talk about 'leftists' you're not actually talking about real people, I think it's safe to assume that reality disagrees with you. If you are saying that people on the left are not real people then I guess that means you aren't real either. Reality and I get along just fine. You on the other hand display a vast knowledge of inaccurate information.

BamaD -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 7:36:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD (Yes, I saw you drift off into fantasy land once again) No, I responded to something you didn't actually say, and called you something you've never claimed to be. This is exactly what you do to everyone on this board who doesn't agree with you. Responding to something that I didn't say is what is generally (at least among we 4 year old like Americans) as a lie.

TheWriter13 -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/26/2016 8:28:18 AM)
You know with all these protests going on combined with this political shit storm that Putin is probably like... [image]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-N6aBeNdwDls/VhsqBkkK-TI/AAAAAAAATtk/DSQRdoQRVGA/s1600/Putin%2BPopcorn.jpg[/image] Seriously though there were going to be protests no matter who one I just love how hypocritical Hilary is winning talk about losing gracefully she's grasping at straws at this point and showing her true colors. Once Trump gets sworn in I hope they continue so he can declare them terrorists.

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