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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 2:06:58 AM   
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Obama vs Mcain yes there were plenty of protests and for the past eight years too.
In public, in private and in congress.

the information is out there, if you are willing to open your mind.


Protests like what is happening now? I seriously don't remember.

There is always be tiny protests here and there, regardless which President I think, but this time, it's very wide scale.

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 2:20:57 AM   
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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 2:38:35 AM   
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Obama didn't use fascism and bigotry to sell himself... so yeah, people are a lot more upset now than they were after a campaign based on hope and change.

Neither did Trump use fascism or bigotry. That's just your interpretation.
Same country who voted for Obama voted for Trump. The people who voted for Trump were not sold by bigotry or fascism at all. They wanted change. Obama sold Change. Didn't really deliver the Change. Trump also sold Change. And good chance he might deliver because he is not doing anything by the book.
Even the way foreign leaders are contacting him is not going by the book at all compared to when Obama was elected. Everything is already changing and he is already doing everything a different way. And there are already ripples on changes on how things are done.

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 2:38:35 AM   
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Obama didn't use fascism and bigotry to sell himself... so yeah, people are a lot more upset now than they were after a campaign based on hope and change.

And don't forget the apology tour.
We on the right were just as upset, we just have higher standards of behavior.
Projection again you assume that if we had been as upset as the left is now we would act the same way they are.

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 2:41:48 AM   
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And don't forget the apology tour.

Yea I seriously don't understand this. I can imagine if my own leader goes around the world apologizing, I'd be pissed off too. Like WTF! We are our own country and we do things OUR way! What other country thinks is not our problem. We don't exist to make them happy!
The most important thing is that our people are happy. That is the only scale to bother with.

Which is also why, I don't understand the hate towards Putin. If you read how Russians feel online, they want a good relationship with the US, they don't think Putin is a terrible President. AND they really want to stop being enemies with the US.

But problem is, what benefits Russia may hurt the US, so there lies the conflict. I hope Trump and Putin can really come up with a win-win solution. I want to see Trump get along with Russia and China. But we'll see. Since within the Republican camp, most are anti-Russia too. So this Russia thing is just him on his own lone island.

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 2:44:43 AM   
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And don't forget the apology tour.

Yea I seriously don't understand this. I can imagine if my own leader goes around the world apologizing, I'd be pissed off too. Like WTF! We are our own country and we do things OUR way! What other country thinks is not our problem. We don't exist to make them happy!

Many of us took that as a direct slap in the face.

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 3:02:42 AM   
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And don't forget the apology tour.

Yea I seriously don't understand this. I can imagine if my own leader goes around the world apologizing, I'd be pissed off too. Like WTF! We are our own country and we do things OUR way! What other country thinks is not our problem. We don't exist to make them happy!

Many of us took that as a direct slap in the face.

Countries are seeing this clown dumbotrump as a direct slap in the face, as well as many American citizens.

Vietnam, quote the apology, welfare patient.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/05/24/remarks-president-obama-address-people-vietnam

Hiroshima, quote the apology, welfare patient.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/28/world/asia/text-of-president-obamas-speech-in-hiroshima-japan.html?_r=0

As always, you are a fucking feebleminded nutsucker welfare patient, factless and useless, a waste of American oxygen.

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 3:28:22 AM   
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And don't forget the apology tour.
We on the right were just as upset, we just have higher standards of behavior.
Projection again you assume that if we had been as upset as the left is now we would act the same way they are.


So you're going to start using things that didn't happen to prove how much better you are?

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 3:29:59 AM   
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Neither did Trump use fascism or bigotry. That's just your interpretation.
Same country who voted for Obama voted for Trump. The people who voted for Trump were not sold by bigotry or fascism at all. They wanted change.


http://lionsoftrump.net/about/

Overt fascists who derived their name from a Mussolini quote (which Trump repeated and admired) have sworn to protect him from the leftist hordes. The KKK also planned a march in his honor, celebrating his election as a personal victory. He was endorsed by the American Nazi Party.

Here's a direct quote from the ANP chairman:


We have a wonderful OPPORTUNITY here folks, that may never come again, at the RIGHT time! Donald Trump’s campaign statements, if nothing else, have SHOWN that “our views” are NOT so “unpopular” as the Political Correctness crowd have told everyone they are! " -Rocky J Suhayda

Has any American president in recent history ever inspired such a passionate response by confirmed fascists and bigots?
The answer is no.

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 4:06:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Obama vs Mcain yes there were plenty of protests and for the past eight years too.
In public, in private and in congress.

the information is out there, if you are willing to open your mind.


Protests like what is happening now? I seriously don't remember.

There is always be tiny protests here and there, regardless which President I think, but this time, it's very wide scale.


plenty of protests yes greta, but not riots or protests in which the law was broken. to be told "the information is out there...open your mind" is to diminish the major and essential difference between the two forms of "protest."

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 4:20:32 AM   
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plenty of protests yes greta, but not riots or protests in which the law was broken.

So the Brook's Brothers Riot in 2000 was entirely legal and above board, then?

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 5:15:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		though I probably should have tempered my language a bit to seem less absolute, sorry, rare exceptions don't disprove general rules.

regardless, there is still an essential difference between a protest that turns violent due to acute circumstances on the ground and ones that set out originally with that, or other law-breaking, as its method and goal.

how many truly comparable instances exist? very few.

and that in comparison to the amount of peaceful protests on either side? in recent history compare the tea party protest/demonstrations to ows, and as greta asked, "protests like what is happening now?" no, there is no comparison.




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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 6:49:30 AM   
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regardless, there is still an essential difference between a protest that turns violent due to acute circumstances on the ground and ones that set out originally with that, or other law-breaking, as its method and goal.

So how did a riot that was staged by Republican party staffers to illegally stop a vote recount not start out with an illegal aim, then?

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 9:09:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Obama vs Mcain yes there were plenty of protests and for the past eight years too.
In public, in private and in congress.

the information is out there, if you are willing to open your mind.


It's hard for some to put aside the two-number non-primary color book they carry into adulthood.


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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 9:12:29 AM   
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Neither did Trump use fascism or bigotry. That's just your interpretation.
Same country who voted for Obama voted for Trump. The people who voted for Trump were not sold by bigotry or fascism at all. They wanted change.


http://lionsoftrump.net/about/

Overt fascists who derived their name from a Mussolini quote (which Trump repeated and admired) have sworn to protect him from the leftist hordes. The KKK also planned a march in his honor, celebrating his election as a personal victory. He was endorsed by the American Nazi Party.

Here's a direct quote from the ANP chairman:


We have a wonderful OPPORTUNITY here folks, that may never come again, at the RIGHT time! Donald Trump’s campaign statements, if nothing else, have SHOWN that “our views” are NOT so “unpopular” as the Political Correctness crowd have told everyone they are! " -Rocky J Suhayda

Has any American president in recent history ever inspired such a passionate response by confirmed fascists and bigots?
The answer is no.

LMAO. No, the left was inspired by Obama's Hope and Change. Of course they never asked what Hope and Change meant, they just assumed it meant what they personally thought it meant. So, who knows how many little confirmed socialist bigots were inspired. I'd say more than the very few fascists you are referring to. To me, it just shows that the left really doesn't want information about the details or outcome as long as they can feel good about the intention.

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 9:24:45 AM   
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Only 13 % of the population is AA.
THere must have been an AWFUL lot of Black families buying a lot of houses, To cause the cluster fuck that hit in 2007-8. But ok lets go with that bullshit as true, if you are going to blame poor black people. Why havent the repubs done something about it in the past 6 years?


Let's look at this straw man.

While the change was implemented to allow inner city minorities, not just AA, to have access to mortgages, it wasn't exclusively used by AA's. Everybody who could not normally afford a mortgage used the new regulations. People who normally worked and saved to obtain a 20% down payment no longer did so and bought as much house as they wanted instead of as much house as they could afford. The attitude was that the housing market would always go up, they could sell in five years, before ballon payments came do, and make a profit which they could then use to buy a house to keep. So people that could afford...say...a $100,000 mortgage were taking out $200,000 mortgages.

Your inability to see past your little comfort zone makes what statements you do make pretty silly.

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 9:26:18 AM   
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Obama vs Mcain yes there were plenty of protests and for the past eight years too.
In public, in private and in congress.

the information is out there, if you are willing to open your mind.


Citations please? What is plenty?

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 9:27:26 AM   
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Obama vs Mcain yes there were plenty of protests and for the past eight years too.
In public, in private and in congress.

the information is out there, if you are willing to open your mind.


Protests like what is happening now? I seriously don't remember.

There is always be tiny protests here and there, regardless which President I think, but this time, it's very wide scale.

Greta, there weren't any. It's BS. They'd have all sorts of links up if there were.

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 1:05:15 PM   
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Obama didn't use fascism and bigotry to sell himself... so yeah, people are a lot more upset now than they were after a campaign based on hope and change.


You are right. Obama didn't use fascism and bigotry to sell himself. The person using fascism and bigotry to sell themselves was Hillary Clinton with her repeated facetious allegations pointed at Donald Trump that so disgusted enough Americans, if they weren't already, that they voted her out on her ass.

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RE: These aren't "protests" - 11/18/2016 1:17:09 PM   
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Greta, there weren't any. It's BS. They'd have all sorts of links up if there were.


Go to youtube or google and use "trump protests" as a search term.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/10/trump-protests-intensify-as-doubts-swirl-about-spontaneity.html
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/11/riot-declared-in-oregon-as-anti-trump-demonstrators-damage-cars-buildings.html
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-gathering-storm-of-protest-against-trump
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-to-trump-protesters-231558
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3948558/President-Obama-encourages-Trump-protesters-eggs-young-voters-engage-not-just-upsets-ignores-Republicans-pleas-end-week-chaos.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/11/16/anti-trump-demonstrators-say-nationwide-protests-are-just-a-taste-of-things-to-come/?utm_term=.631e3dbbc8a4

Until you mentioned it; I didn't think links were needed for an issue that keeps appearing on the 6pm news. It isn't like this is something only reported in obscure alt-right flame sites. I kept the number of links down and mostly only did liberal biased sources except for Fox News as they come out as the top search destination of the google metrics for searches for the subject.

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