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Nnanji -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/18/2016 4:11:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MercTech


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Greta, there weren't any. It's BS. They'd have all sorts of links up if there were.


Go to youtube or google and use "trump protests" as a search term.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/10/trump-protests-intensify-as-doubts-swirl-about-spontaneity.html
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/11/riot-declared-in-oregon-as-anti-trump-demonstrators-damage-cars-buildings.html
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-gathering-storm-of-protest-against-trump
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-to-trump-protesters-231558
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3948558/President-Obama-encourages-Trump-protesters-eggs-young-voters-engage-not-just-upsets-ignores-Republicans-pleas-end-week-chaos.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/11/16/anti-trump-demonstrators-say-nationwide-protests-are-just-a-taste-of-things-to-come/?utm_term=.631e3dbbc8a4

Until you mentioned it; I didn't think links were needed for an issue that keeps appearing on the 6pm news. It isn't like this is something only reported in obscure alt-right flame sites. I kept the number of links down and mostly only did liberal biased sources except for Fox News as they come out as the top search destination of the google metrics for searches for the subject.

My response to Greta saying where were the protests Lucy was talking about in 2008 and 2012. Everyone is aware of snowflakes that didn't vote rioting over Trumps win.




bounty44 -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/18/2016 4:38:13 PM)

I just mentioned to greta recently about "disjointed" conversations.

to be clear (and in my words): greta was saying the "right" doesn't protest like the left does (that is, riot). lucy suggested sure they do, you just have to look for it (which is pretty close to the exception proving the rule). its possible lucy misunderstood greta; hard to know.

I replied to greta saying that no, the right does not protest like the left does (the latter riots), to which whoremods replied with the brooks brothers "riot" in 2000, which is a rare exception and essentially not the same as what we see the left perpetually doing.

yes plenty of protests against Obama---peaceful ones, no rioting (that im aware of) and as nnanji said, if there were, the comrades would be all over it.

vile critter parts tried, in another thread, to ridiculously claim republicans rioted and killed people over obama, and then gave no effective evidence to support the claim.




heavyblinker -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/18/2016 8:41:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MercTech
You are right. Obama didn't use fascism and bigotry to sell himself. The person using fascism and bigotry to sell themselves was Hillary Clinton with her repeated facetious allegations pointed at Donald Trump that so disgusted enough Americans, if they weren't already, that they voted her out on her ass.


That's not what fascism and bigotry is.




BamaD -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/18/2016 8:52:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: MercTech
You are right. Obama didn't use fascism and bigotry to sell himself. The person using fascism and bigotry to sell themselves was Hillary Clinton with her repeated facetious allegations pointed at Donald Trump that so disgusted enough Americans, if they weren't already, that they voted her out on her ass.


That's not what fascism and bigotry is.

Then how about Hillary supporters trying to harass Electors into voting for her.




heavyblinker -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/18/2016 9:01:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Then how about Hillary supporters trying to harass Electors into voting for her.


Of course not.




MercTech -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/18/2016 9:40:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: MercTech
You are right. Obama didn't use fascism and bigotry to sell himself. The person using fascism and bigotry to sell themselves was Hillary Clinton with her repeated facetious allegations pointed at Donald Trump that so disgusted enough Americans, if they weren't already, that they voted her out on her ass.


That's not what fascism and bigotry is.


Using facetious accusations of fascism and bigotry as a tool to misrepresent an opponent is most certainly using fascism and bigotry to sell yourself. Especially reprehensible with a person with four decades of demonstrated contempt for the working people of the country.




mnottertail -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/18/2016 9:42:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: MercTech
You are right. Obama didn't use fascism and bigotry to sell himself. The person using fascism and bigotry to sell themselves was Hillary Clinton with her repeated facetious allegations pointed at Donald Trump that so disgusted enough Americans, if they weren't already, that they voted her out on her ass.


That's not what fascism and bigotry is.

Then how about Hillary supporters trying to harass Electors into voting for her.

No, welfare patient, thats not bigotry, nor harassment. Bigotry is when nutsuckers harass women who want to control their own bodies.
Harassment is when nutsuckers will not give a fair hearing to the Presidents nomination for Supreme Court.




mnottertail -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/18/2016 9:43:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MercTech


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: MercTech
You are right. Obama didn't use fascism and bigotry to sell himself. The person using fascism and bigotry to sell themselves was Hillary Clinton with her repeated facetious allegations pointed at Donald Trump that so disgusted enough Americans, if they weren't already, that they voted her out on her ass.


That's not what fascism and bigotry is.


Using facetious accusations of fascism and bigotry as a tool to misrepresent an opponent is most certainly using fascism and bigotry to sell yourself. Especially reprehensible with a person with four decades of demonstrated contempt for the working people of the country.

What, Don was just out there to suck a little blue collar dick?




heavyblinker -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/18/2016 9:58:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MercTech


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: MercTech
You are right. Obama didn't use fascism and bigotry to sell himself. The person using fascism and bigotry to sell themselves was Hillary Clinton with her repeated facetious allegations pointed at Donald Trump that so disgusted enough Americans, if they weren't already, that they voted her out on her ass.


That's not what fascism and bigotry is.


Using facetious accusations of fascism and bigotry as a tool to misrepresent an opponent is most certainly using fascism and bigotry to sell yourself. Especially reprehensible with a person with four decades of demonstrated contempt for the working people of the country.


They weren't facetious, and accusing someone of being a fascist and a bigot isn't fascism or bigotry either.




popeye1250 -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/19/2016 3:16:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

The Democrats haven't been this pissed off since the Republicans took their slaves away.

How many mayors have already stated that they are going to defy the law and maintain sanctuary status?

Bama, they can't.
They must have been asleep a few months ago when Pres Obama stated; "Federal law supercedes State and Local law."




BamaD -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/19/2016 3:30:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

The Democrats haven't been this pissed off since the Republicans took their slaves away.

How many mayors have already stated that they are going to defy the law and maintain sanctuary status?

Bama, they can't.
They must have been asleep a few months ago when Pres Obama stated; "Federal law supercedes State and Local law."

Like everything else it only counts if it favors the left.




bounty44 -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/19/2016 4:10:29 AM)

I believe this has already been mentioned but its worth repeating. the feds cannot co-opt locals to work on their behalf, that is, require them to engage in federal law enforcement. in that regard, im with the mayors.

the challenge is going to be finding a way for the cities to cooperate with federal agencies that doesn't abrogate their autonomy.

the kate steinle case is a good example. it doesn't seem like a violation of the constitution for the feds to ask the city to notify them and hold the perp until they could pick him up, and the city actually doing that.




Nnanji -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/19/2016 9:09:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: MercTech


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: MercTech
You are right. Obama didn't use fascism and bigotry to sell himself. The person using fascism and bigotry to sell themselves was Hillary Clinton with her repeated facetious allegations pointed at Donald Trump that so disgusted enough Americans, if they weren't already, that they voted her out on her ass.


That's not what fascism and bigotry is.


Using facetious accusations of fascism and bigotry as a tool to misrepresent an opponent is most certainly using fascism and bigotry to sell yourself. Especially reprehensible with a person with four decades of demonstrated contempt for the working people of the country.


They weren't facetious, and accusing someone of being a fascist and a bigot isn't fascism or bigotry either.

Should I look in the dictionary? There will be a picture of you as the guy who gets to make definitions there, right?




LadyPact -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/20/2016 8:15:17 AM)

Kirata, there's really not much of anything I can say to the original of your topic. I didn't have any problem with the protests that were *just* protests. I do have issues with the violence and destructive bit. (Meaning, no, setting people's property on fire is arson just like it is any other day of the week.)
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

FR

Rioters didn't even vote.

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/more-than-half-of-arrested-anti-trump-protesters-didnt-vote/351964445



This was kind of interesting to me because, when I originally read Kirata's thread, my tv happened to be on CNN, and the report was regarding protests in three different states. CA, OR, and CO where trouble, for lack of a better term, seemed to be happening. Coincidentally, three states that Clinton did take.

Here's the thought process. I'm very familiar with the old adage of, "if you didn't vote, and an election doesn't go your way, you probably shouldn't complain". (Which, is kind of a hack, anyway, because freedom of speech means you get to complain, and people do that in general.) Had the protesters been in a state that Trump carried the vote, this would have made a lot of sense. In a Trump carried state, those votes might have made a difference.

The lack of voting in a state that Clinton took, anyway? Does it matter as much? It really boils down to Clinton getting more votes in a state she had already won.

I'm curious about people's opinions on this.




PeonForHer -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/20/2016 8:36:53 AM)

FR

The major part of me says, what's the point in even talking about whether or not the protests are "legitimate"? This US presidential election was the most bitter and divisive I've ever seen. There was bound to be a lot of anger and upset after it. You might as well talk about whether winds and heavy rainfall are a 'storm' or not.




heavyblinker -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/20/2016 9:07:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Should I look in the dictionary? There will be a picture of you as the guy who gets to make definitions there, right?


No, I just know what I'm talking about.
You should try it!




LadyPact -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/20/2016 9:18:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
FR

The major part of me says, what's the point in even talking about whether or not the protests are "legitimate"? This US presidential election was the most bitter and divisive I've ever seen. There was bound to be a lot of anger and upset after it. You might as well talk about whether winds and heavy rainfall are a 'storm' or not.

I happen to agree with this. While I think that some Trump supporters doubt my view, but had it gone the other way, I still think there would have been protests. It just would have been from a different segment of America and in different locations. My guess would have been in states where illegal immigration being a major factor in the way people voted. Just an opinion, but I doubt those folks felt like they have been 'heard' for a while now, so had it gone the other way, that frustration would have come out.





Nnanji -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/20/2016 9:40:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Should I look in the dictionary? There will be a picture of you as the guy who gets to make definitions there, right?


No, I just know what I'm talking about.
You should try it!

Well of course you do when you get to make up the rules.




bounty44 -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/21/2016 2:51:19 AM)

"Brace Yourself for Four Years of Nonstop Freakoutrage"

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The left is trying to come to grips with its utter rejection, and its response to Donald Trump will be to fall back on an endless series of freakoutrages – hyperbolic, unhinged, hack media-fueled spasms of faux moral panic every time he dares do anything.

Appoint someone to a job? Freak out – it’s an outrage!

Go to dinner? Freak out – it’s an outrage!

Actually keep promises made to the voters? Freak out – it’s an outrage!

But it isn’t going to work. Not anymore. Not with the form of the Destructor Hillary and the rest of super smart Team Smugfail chose. Freakoutrage fatigue is in effect. You can cry Wolf Blitzer all day long and nobody cares.

It’s important to understand why liberals are so angry and so scared. They are angry because they believe they have a moral right to command us, apparently bestowed by Gaia or #Science or having gone to Yale, and we are irredeemably deplorable for not submitting to their benevolent dictatorship.

They are scared because they fear we will wage the same kind of campaign of petty (and not so petty) oppression, intimidation, and bullying that they intended to wage upon us.

And their fear tastes like sunshine puked up by a unicorn.

I was considering being magnanimous in our total victory, but that lasted until a bunch of loving, tolerant, peaceful anti-Trump demonstrators jumped my friend and hurt his dog. So now, their pain is my sugar, and I say let’s spend the next four years having our coffee Sudden Impact-style.

You want to play the freakoutrage card? Go ahead, make my day.

It’s the only practical tool they have left, secession being hard and scary when you’re on the side that wets itself around guns. So instead they sow cultural chaos with the eager, slobbering cooperation of the dying mainstream media. Hence the nonstop series of post-defeat freakoutrages over each and every action undertaken by President-elect Trump – oh, I’m getting Matthewsian tingles down my leg just thinking of how much it hurts you libs to read those words!

But it’s a loser’s game. Freakoutraging is not a power move – it’s a sign of weakness. It’s weak because to work, it depends entirely on cooperation by us and by President-elect Trump – there’s that tingle again! We have to allow it to work. See, you libs can’t make us do anything because we control everything. The Reid Rule is in effect, players, and we’re going to beat down liberalism like a Nordic-Trak beats down Harry.

Freakoutrage is manipulation, so it depends upon the credibility of the freakoutrager in the eyes of the freakoutragee. Do you see the problem? Because the freakoutragers are liberals amplified by the liberal mainstream media, there’s a bit of a credibility gap in the eyes of us freakoutragees. Similarly yuge gaps include the Grand Canyon and the yawning chasm between Obama’s self-regard and his accomplishments.

To work, the freakoutragee has to take the freakoutrage seriously – “Wow, I can’t imagine that anyone would call the Attorney General appointee a white supremacist Klan lover without a really good reason. I shall be wary of this ruffian!” But when you literally call everyone associated with Donald Trump a bigot, racist, sexist, Islamophobe, transphobe, and miscellaneousphobe – including, by extension, the nearly 50% of Americans who voted for him over Harridan McHarpy – then you lose your credibility. When you redefine “bigotry” to mean “I don’t like you,” you’ve deprived the word of its bite.

Non-political people are watching, and when no one goosesteps over to their houses to throw them into Jesus camp with all the other people whose ancestors didn’t hail from Dusseldorf, they’re going to figure out that your endless freakoutrages are all lies. When everybody’s terrible, nobody is. Especially when the people you say are terrible really aren’t.

Freakoutrage need the cooperation of President-elect Trump (Ohhhh, baby, I’m a-tinglin’ again!), and that’s another reason you’ll fail. Freakoutrage is really a way you and your media fluffers try to train conservative leaders. You try to teach the Republican leader that if he does anything you don’t approve of, you’ll scream and whine and then he’ll have to back down. It’s a means of control, like a shock collar. And this works on a lot of Republicans, or used to: “Oh no, the WaPo is angry! Quick, start #caring!”

But The Donald? Nope. You have no heat because he’s giving absolutely no damns.

Ditching the press to scarf a sirloin? WAAAAAA! Damns given: 0.

Appointing hardcore conservatives? WAAAAA! Damns given: 0.

Building the wall, repealing O-Care, SCOTUS Justice Willet? WAAAAA! Damns given: 0.

You’ll be freaking out and the President will be eating a taco bowl and kicking it old school with his hot immigrant wife like a boss, penning and phoning Obama’s miserable legacy into oblivion.

So libs, carry on with your freakoutrages. Please. Each one makes you weaker and us stronger. Everyone sees the truth behind your freakoutrage scam. Everyone sees the truth behind you. The audience of Hamilton didn't boo Pence. The cast didn’t lecture Pence. The audience booed us. The cast lectured us. You libs hate us. Hate, not merely dislike. Hate. Your dream is a country without us, just like I predicted in my new book.

So your freakoutraging did do us one solid – you helped remind us who our real enemy is. It’s you. And we know it because you dorky, safety-pinned, not moving-to-Canada-like-you-promised freakoutragers keep telling us so.


http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2016/11/21/brace-yourself-for-four-years-of-nonstop-freakoutrage-n2248518




Lucylastic -> RE: These aren't "protests" (11/21/2016 3:43:41 AM)

well you've had 8 years of utter chaos and discontent dealing with one president, so another 4 wont make a difference.





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