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Greta75 -> The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/17/2016 6:27:02 AM)

http://www.vocativ.com/376156/obama-voters-voting-trump/

The link to article is up there but I only want to quote the things that was precisely why I felt for Trump too.

Trump’s anti-establishment message particularly hit a nerve with voters who bought into the idea that the media, part of the “liberal elite” he’d positioned himself against, was telling them who to vote for. They didn’t like it, and Trump fueled this resentment during his campaign, encouraging rally attendees to lash out at reporters, and saying both Clinton and the media were conspiring against him.

“What caught my eye earlier this year was all the tremendous media violence toward the man, toward Trump,” says Lisa Finkelstein, a 50-year-old social worker and registered Democrat from Tallahassee, FL who supported Obama — and now Trump. “It really turned me off. All the media outlets I used to read and still do, like the New York Times, Washington Post, NPR, the New Yorker, all of them were throwing out this perverted violence against this guy.” She was hardly alone: In October, a Quinnipiac University poll found that 55% of likely voters believed the news media was biased against Trump.

Nainan says he didn’t see Trump as a bully, but a victim, and that was something he could relate to. “I was bullied because of my race when I was in school—more than a decade of bullying,” says Nainan. “I think people who felt like an underdog might have identified with Trump more, because he was being picked on so much. I felt it was very liberating to vote for him and thumb my nose at everybody… In theory, you should be able to vote for whoever you wish and not be beaten up or vilified or ostracized or un-friended [on Facebook]. There was something about it that felt really cathartic.”

What this Nainan say was precisely why I rooted so hard for Trump. I saw a man being bullied, and being falsely painted as a bully.

I identified with that. Although I have never experienced bullying in school ever, not by students anyway. Somehow in school, the bullies are my friends, and the ones being bullied are my friends too. I make the ones being bullied my friends so that my friends, the bullies will leave them alone. I remembered taking an albino american chinese kid under my wing, as he was such a target. Being albino and having an american accent doesn't help. He'll always get pick on. And he became one of my closest most loyal friends in school back then.

My war was with authority. The principal and the Teachers. So when you take on adults as a kid, the kid bullies leave you alone and infact, are in awe of you, for not being afraid to talk back, challenge them and stand your ground. You got to remember, authority in my school is allowed to pull my hair, slam my head against the wall, and publicly cane me to humiliate me. That was what my war was against.

But the biggest reason why authority at school cannot intimidate me despite their physical violence towards me was because I already experience the worst physical violence and bullying at home by my own two parents. So nothing could be worst than that. When your own parents bully you, there is NOBODY you can go to for help. Parents beating the crap out of you is legal in my country. They have the 100% rights to do so. And going to the police will just get you sent home and tell you to obey your parents better so you don't get beaten so much. Of course my school teachers and principal and headmaster was also beating me. So Every adult was my enemy. My whole childhood is one big war against authority. Adults were my biggest bullies and my enemies.

So in that, I can relate to bullying. And the helplessness.

Anyway, these other Obama voters expresses exactly what I felt about Trump during his run.

And the left media is showing no signs of halting. I for see this is going on throughout the next 4 years. IF they continue like this, they will lose more voters respect and change them to feel sympathy for Trump.





WickedsDesire -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/17/2016 7:13:25 AM)

Am I really going to have to post part of trumps CV again? This is aimed at the article and the mentality of those brain dead drones who seem incapable of justifying a modicum of common sense and clarity.
Sighs here it is again

1. Who has filed for bankruptcy 4 times
2. “It has not been easy for me ... My father gave me a small loan of a million dollars”
3. Pays shag all tax
4. Has 3,500 pending lawsuits
5. Insults war heroes and the fallen “He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” Your commander and chief ffs.
6. “You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever
7. "grab women by the pussy”
8. Insults brown people
9. Insults black people
10. Insults Islamic people
11. “rapist criminals – referring to Mexicans
12. Burns and shreds all his business documents and emails
13. “I think, for me, nuclear is just the power, the devastation is very important to me.” WTF does that mean git.
14. Two Corinthians, right? Two Corinthians 3:17, that’s the whole ballgame. Where the spirit of the Lord—right?—is, there is liberty! Holy fuk Donald and its second Corinthians
15. “Lyin' Ted Cruz just used a picture of Melania from a G.Q. shoot in his ad. Be careful, Lyin' Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife! Ffs again Donald wtf does that mean
16. “I was down there, and I watched our police and our firemen, down on 7-Eleven, down at the World Trade Center, right after it came down. And I saw the greatest people I’ve ever seen in action.” April 18, 2016, speech in Buffalo, New York, misidentifying the 9/11 attacks. Wicked Shakes his head
17. His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald’s being — you know, shot. I mean…mad waffle etc
18. Trump alleges that Bill Clinton committed rape as well as other sexual offenses. Same allegations are against him and his hot mic predatory speech tells you what manner of beast he is.
19. “The judge was appointed by Barack Obama, federal judge. Frankly, he should recuse himself because he’s given us ruling after ruling after ruling, negative, negative, negative. What happens is the judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican, which is great. I think that’s fine.” A fine speaker he is not.
20. “Look at my African American over here!”
21. “Just arrived in Scotland. Place is going wild over the vote. They took their country back, just like we will take America back. No games!” Fuking imbecile
22. “He was a bad guy—really bad guy. But you know what? He did well? He killed terrorists. He did that so good. They didn’t read them the rights. They didn’t talk. They were terrorists. Over. Today, Iraq is Harvard for terrorism.”
23. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. Let's see if that happens."
24. “He’s not going into Ukraine, OK? Just so you understand. He’s not going to go into Ukraine, alright? You can mark it down and you can put it down, you can take it anywhere you want.” They are already in Crimea fuking moron and took it back from the Ukraine.
25. “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.”
26. If [Hillary Clinton] gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know.”
27. “ISIS is honoring President Obama. He is the founder of ISIS. He founded ISIS. And I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton. You should be in a fuking asylum you deranged loon


and


Didn't the mad man elect say the system was rigged. I do not suppose he has mentioned this since he trounced Bint by negative one million votes? Although the nutter went onto say he could have got the popular vote if he wanted.

I now imagine, in my minds, creatures first public appearance: he will be wheeled about looking all handsome demented in his suit of sparkly buckles...will also curtail his pussy groping claws.... Do you think he will have a drool or froth bag?


Popular vote she got, not that the full results are in yet, by 2 million probably

Well at least she was one of the 53% who voted I suppose.



Greta75 -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/17/2016 8:49:32 AM)

I think you didn't get my point. Clinton should have won by a bigger margin. She actually didn't do well with minorities as well as women.
And she had less voters coming out for her than Obama.

And this is because...., the media was showing bias on a Nazi level that even Obama supporters started to feel sympathy for Trump, and started seeing the Media as bullying.

They made Trump look like the Victim.

The Left Media flex their muscles and decided they want to teach a Bully a Lesson.

But lesson to learn from this is. I was bullied by my parents, but I never became a bully at school. Instead, I stood up against bullying and protected the ones who needed protection, because I could and I had that power. And on top of that, I befriended both sectors. I taught bullies to be nice, and I feel really good about my school days in many ways. I brought the bullies and the bullied, although they weren't friends with each other but their common ground was, I was friends with both, and both fractions helped me on my war against the teachers. My principal could never understand why the best in the school were my friends, as well as the worst. Even though she personally tried to ask the top students in the school to stay away from me as I was bad influence. I didn't create discord, I brought unity in my little universe. And of course, the bad guys, authorities were picking on me sooo badly, many felt sorry for me, and clearly see the obvious bias, and support me because they see the injustice. I could do alot of things back to the teachers and nobody would rat on me.

I would get punished in class for just being there minding my own business. They would find fault with me, because they were blatantly targeting me for showing them disrespect and disdain. They wanted to teach me a lesson and crush me. The teachers. Imagine a teacher coming into class, and zeroing you out to answer a question and even if the answer is right, I get punished for it anyway. The teacher will tell me I got lucky with my answer that's why I got it right, but she was very sure I wasn't paying attention. So I got punished.

Left Media decided to become bullies themselves and bully the Bully and trying to appeal to minorities at the same time, who may have been victims themselves.

The ones cheering Left Media on, are also bullies themselves. Maybe people who were bullied and turn into bullies themselves.

But there are those who were bullied and determined not to be one of the bullies, who were disgusted, like me.

And these people although voted Obama, who was the underdog, also voted for Trump, once they saw the "good people" turn into Bullies which made Trump looked like the poor underdog.

And the crazy thing is, looking at CNN right now. They still haven't learnt. Their tone needs to change. It was an over kill of the whole world against Trump. They seriously contributed to people feeling sympathy for Trump, despite not believing in his policies.



WhoreMods -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/17/2016 8:52:17 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75
And this is because...., the media was showing bias on a Nazi level...

How is that defined? Is there a sliding scale with "Nazi" at one end?



Greta75 -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/17/2016 9:00:54 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
How is that defined? Is there a sliding scale with "Nazi" at one end?

My definition for Nazi is when, someone is just becoming ridiculously unreasonable and oppressing and unfair.



WhoreMods -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/17/2016 10:32:47 AM)

So how does that not cover the circus peanut's comments about women and darkies, then?



heavyblinker -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/17/2016 10:34:18 AM)

So everyone wants a victim to be president.

It was pretty obvious that the media hated Trump.
It was equally obvious that they had good reason to.



WhoreMods -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/17/2016 11:27:02 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
It was pretty obvious that the media hated Trump.

Fox (and the whole rest of News International) seemed quite keen.
Is that not the media now?



heavyblinker -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/17/2016 11:44:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
Fox (and the whole rest of News International) seemed quite keen.
Is that not the media now?


Yeah but they're special.



popeye1250 -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/18/2016 1:11:30 AM)

Oh I bet there's a bunch in here.



Greta75 -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/18/2016 1:29:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

So how does that not cover the circus peanut's comments about women and darkies, then?

He apologised for the "grab female pussy" comment. APOLOGISED! So be gracious and accept his apology for it! And that was 10 years ago! And he was just doing his typical male bragging, which I show a video of a left Hillary Camp volunteer or staff or whatever, pretty much saying the same the kind of shit. Many men say this kind of shit! Libs or Reps.

Secondly, he has never ever said anything against dark skinned coloured people.



Greta75 -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/18/2016 1:33:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
So everyone wants a victim to be president.

If you read the article I quoted in OP. The minorities who were bullied explained that, they wanted to stick it up to the bullies that were bullying Trump as it reminded them of themselves when they were bullied. So they voted Trump.
Because in this election, everybody went after Trump. Even his own party.
Over kill, Over kill, Over victimizing him. They went too far.

It's funny I read something from Jon Stewart today, and he is like THE respectable Left person right? And he said this, the exact same thing!

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jon-stewart-the-daily-show-former-host-election-2016-donald-trump-republicans/

“I thought Donald Trump disqualified himself at numerous points. But there is now this idea that anyone who voted for him is -- has to be defined by the worst of his rhetoric,” Stewart said. “Like, there are guys in my neighborhood that I love, that I respect, that I think have incredible qualities who are not afraid of Mexicans, and not afraid of Muslims, and not afraid of blacks. They’re afraid of their insurance premiums. In the liberal community, you hate this idea of creating people as a monolith. Don’t look as Muslims as a monolith. They are the individuals and it would be ignorance. But everybody who voted for Trump is a monolith, is a racist. That hypocrisy is also real in our country.”

And he got it spot on! The left didn't walk their talk. They went the opposite direction. And enough people were disgusted.



WhoreMods -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/18/2016 4:33:39 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
So everyone wants a victim to be president.

I think it's more that they'd rather their president was presented as a victim, as that's the only way the reprehensible cockwomble has a claim on anything resembling the moral high ground. Playing the victim and actually being victimised are rather different things.



WhoreMods -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/18/2016 4:34:45 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
So everyone wants a victim to be president.

If you read the article I quoted in OP. The minorities who were bullied explained that, they wanted to stick it up to the bullies that were bullying Trump as it reminded them of themselves when they were bullied. So they voted Trump.
Because in this election, everybody went after Trump. Even his own party.
Over kill, Over kill, Over victimizing him. They went too far.

It's funny I read something from Jon Stewart today, and he is like THE respectable Left person right? And he said this, the exact same thing!

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jon-stewart-the-daily-show-former-host-election-2016-donald-trump-republicans/

“I thought Donald Trump disqualified himself at numerous points. But there is now this idea that anyone who voted for him is -- has to be defined by the worst of his rhetoric,” Stewart said. “Like, there are guys in my neighborhood that I love, that I respect, that I think have incredible qualities who are not afraid of Mexicans, and not afraid of Muslims, and not afraid of blacks. They’re afraid of their insurance premiums. In the liberal community, you hate this idea of creating people as a monolith. Don’t look as Muslims as a monolith. They are the individuals and it would be ignorance. But everybody who voted for Trump is a monolith, is a racist. That hypocrisy is also real in our country.”

And he got it spot on! The left didn't walk their talk. They went the opposite direction. And enough people were disgusted.

You realise you're talking about the left as a monolith, there?



WickedsDesire -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/18/2016 6:57:32 AM)

Your point is sophistry, is it not, in the majority of your posts Greta75....on these thread I am actually getting weary of copying and pasting part of the circus peanuts CV. I have still to come to a definite conclusion with you if you are saying these things deliberately or if that is simply the way you actually think..I’m not favouring the latter

Few democrats turned to him and I am sure more Republicans turned to her, is a far more accurate statement...I can no longer be bothered working out the figures - is there still state still to come ffs.

Another reason they turned was because of this http://www.collarchat.com/m_4971700/tm.htm oh, and behold team drool are they not wonderful marvels :)

The media was fair on Turnip, it was not on Binton- and bintons media forces not fair on Sanders

I categorically said all the time the creature would get in..i said briefly a long time ago he would, changed my mind briefly, then back again the last few months and why he would get in and his mode of attack if he wished to do…..I don’t doubt for a second that the FBI director gave him 1% or so of Hillary.

But at the end of the day that is his CV and if people wish to turn to him that is their right, but at the cost of ignoring reality is not right.

I don’t have the will to go through the last 10 elections, figures etc

I did actually ask a few times can he be impeached now – I am not resurrecting that thread....I still wish to know and why is he Elect now, or the 20th,...does he fulfil the criteria of Civil Officer or not and if so when.

Tuppence is someone I know nothing about

The most corrupt political establishment in the world is most likely American - but that has no relevancy - trump is a bankrupt product of that system



Nnanji -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/18/2016 12:29:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
So everyone wants a victim to be president.

If you read the article I quoted in OP. The minorities who were bullied explained that, they wanted to stick it up to the bullies that were bullying Trump as it reminded them of themselves when they were bullied. So they voted Trump.
Because in this election, everybody went after Trump. Even his own party.
Over kill, Over kill, Over victimizing him. They went too far.

It's funny I read something from Jon Stewart today, and he is like THE respectable Left person right? And he said this, the exact same thing!

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jon-stewart-the-daily-show-former-host-election-2016-donald-trump-republicans/

“I thought Donald Trump disqualified himself at numerous points. But there is now this idea that anyone who voted for him is -- has to be defined by the worst of his rhetoric,” Stewart said. “Like, there are guys in my neighborhood that I love, that I respect, that I think have incredible qualities who are not afraid of Mexicans, and not afraid of Muslims, and not afraid of blacks. They’re afraid of their insurance premiums. In the liberal community, you hate this idea of creating people as a monolith. Don’t look as Muslims as a monolith. They are the individuals and it would be ignorance. But everybody who voted for Trump is a monolith, is a racist. That hypocrisy is also real in our country.”

And he got it spot on! The left didn't walk their talk. They went the opposite direction. And enough people were disgusted.

You realise you're talking about the left as a monolith, there?

The left is not a monolith:



http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11/how-the-democrats-can-fix-themselves

Since then, matters have only gotten worse. A study last year by Anne Case and Angus Deaton, published by the National Academy of Sciences, highlighted the sense of despair in America, where life expectancy is actually on the decline for segments of the population on account of suicide, drug addiction, alcoholism, and obesity. The so-called recovery from the 2008 recession has, in fact, exacerbated the situation—91 percent of the gains in the first three years went to the wealthiest 1 percent of the population. The evident satisfaction with how things have been going, voiced by the Obama administration, clashed with the everyday experiences of 99 percent of the country. At the same time, the administration was funneling billions to the banks that had caused the financial crisis and the recession. (Top officials were very close to the bankers.) Meanwhile, only a pittance was given to beleaguered homeowners. I remember clearly, during the first conference call organized by candidate Barack Obama to formulate the Democratic response to the collapse of Lehman Brothers, in September 2008, I emphasized the importance of helping those who were losing their jobs and homes. The overwhelming sentiment of the group, dominated by bankers, was that my comments were a distraction from the task at hand.



MercTech -> RE: The Obama Supporters who Identified with Trump (11/18/2016 1:01:04 PM)

WickedsDesire, have you ever considered that Hillary Clinton was the morally bankrupt epitome of decades of pandering to an elite 1% of the population that controls 80% of the financial capitol in the U.S.?
Donald Trump is no prize but at least he is his own fool and not a tool.



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