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WickedsDesire -> UK economy must be 'match fit' for Brexit (11/20/2016 5:03:25 AM)

Chancellor Philip Hammond has said he aims to make the economy "match fit for the opportunities and challenges ahead" as the UK approaches Brexit.

Ahead of his first Autumn Statement, he said the economy was facing "a larger degree of uncertainty than usual" and he intended to make it "water-tight".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38043615

Huge legacy – you fukers said you would pay it of the first term…then said oops by the second term…..then by 2020…..then by never…and vacuumed huge amounts of cash. Oh the deficit must never be confused with national debt. Ones a huge void, the other is a huger void.

Due to the Government's significant budget deficit, the national debt is increasing by approximately £73.5 billion per annum, or around £1.4 billion each week.[2] As a result of its efforts to balance the budget, the Government forecast in 2014 that the structural deficit would be eliminated in the financial year 2017/18.[3] However it changed the year to 2018/19 in March 2015 and to 2019/20 in July 2015.[4] The Government's target to return the public finances to surplus by 2019/2020 was abandoned by Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne in July 2016.[5

The UK national debt is often confused (even by politicians) with the government budget deficit (officially known as the Public Sector Net Cash Requirement (PSNCR)), which is the rate at which the government borrows money. The former Prime Minister David Cameron was reprimanded in February 2013 by the UK Statistics Authority for creating confusion between the two, by stating in a political broadcast that his administration was "paying down Britain's debts". In fact, his administration has been attempting to reduce the deficit, not the overall debt. The latter will continue to rise even if the deficit shrinks.[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_national_debt#Debt_versus_deficit

Who the fuk keeps voting for those asylum escapees - looking great BREXIT...best deal possible..flexible - yeh right




WhoreMods -> RE: UK economy must be 'match fit' for Brexit (11/20/2016 5:19:32 AM)

Has wee Jimmie Krankie been pissing and moaning about Scotland's being entitled to stay in the EU regardless of what the rest of the country does, even if it doesn't secede from Britain again?
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WickedsDesire -> RE: UK economy must be 'match fit' for Brexit (11/20/2016 6:36:44 AM)

Scotland and Northern Ireland both backed staying in the EU. Scotland backed Remain by 62% to 38%, while 55.8% in Northern Ireland voted Remain and 44.2% Leave.

England voted strongly for Brexit, by 53.4% to 46.6%, as did Wales, with Leave getting 52.5% of the vote and Remain 47.5%.

Secede! what do you think this is an episode of Babylon 5 which I dearly miss. I'd Annex them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHViV4HyObc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHxLnzIDwuM

I couldn't find the battle scene from Severed Dreams oo wait got it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYoCvgAAiQ8

We have a wall (actually we have two walls) I would mere reinforce it with a moat, wait two moats: one with lava and the other with piranhas with a taste for English blood.. tastes like out of control lobotomised ferrets I suspect. Actually just to be safe we should pipe some magma from Iceland.

Still, I am not a monster sooo we will have a few interment camps for any of their women who look a bit tidy...the men we will deport back to Mexico America.

Now, didnt the ooo Scotland dont leave us campaign- was that not fought with project fear
1. Scotland you wont be part of the EU (lying fukers) they should be tried for treason - or is it anti treason?
2. And other mad fear-mongering, lying, demented deranged deceitful, make it up as you go along errant waffle

Still, nice to see the stratagem is "match fit"




WhoreMods -> RE: UK economy must be 'match fit' for Brexit (11/20/2016 7:18:04 AM)

When did demanding that a referendum which didn't go the way you want should be restaged until the vote matches your desires become a Scots thing?
Seriously, people who think that is acceptable behaviour having the cheek to whine about the bastard English perverting democracy is taking the piss so hard it's probably left a crack in the toilet bowl...




PeonForHer -> RE: UK economy must be 'match fit' for Brexit (11/20/2016 7:45:44 AM)

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When did demanding that a referendum which didn't go the way you want should be restaged until the vote matches your desires become a Scots thing?


We need a referendum in which the result is mandatory, rather than the merely advisory result we have now:

Briefing Paper 07212, provided to MPs in advance of their debate on the 2015 Referendum Bill, outlined the ground rules of the debate.

Section 5 says that the referendum is advisory, consultative, and not binding on the government or parliament. Section 6 says that if there were any question of a referendum being binding or mandating, a simple plurality of votes would be insufficient – that is, a majority is not enough: it has to be a super-majority.

http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/articles/ac_grayling_on_why_now_is_the_time_for_mps_to_derail_a_disastrous_brexit_deal_1_4779842

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freedomdwarf1 -> RE: UK economy must be 'match fit' for Brexit (11/20/2016 8:05:27 AM)

Its just sour grapes.

All the doom-and-gloomers predicted a major crash if we chose exit.
Massive unemployment, property price crash, economy crash, trade crash, banks will leave, yada yada yada.
None of it happened. None of it.
Employment at record highs; lowest unemployment for 11 years.
House prices still rising.
Economy growing faster than Europe and any of the G7 countries.
Major investments in the UK by big manufacturing companies.
The banks are still here with HQ's still in London.

Just sour grapes because it didn't go the way the bremainers wanted.
They were complacent - thought they would walk it with ease.
Well.... the people spoke.
We want OUT. And that's all there is to it.




WickedsDesire -> RE: UK economy must be 'match fit' for Brexit (11/20/2016 8:17:52 AM)

Jings, by golly ….what the fuk you on about...WM

I was talking about BREXIT...

You did some mad ramble about Scotland's being entitled to stay in the EU regardless of what the rest of the country does I stated… Scotland voted to remain in the EU did I not, I even stated the figures 62% to 38%. What am I missing? Not that you strike me as the correct person to ask for a clue. And I have no idea how that ties in with your statement.

“Team fit” for BREXIT(2016) I merely stated their track record in office another 600 billion (of the current 1.6 tillion) onto the national debt in 6 years in office….fuk me..thats a lot. And, the deficit, which is something completely different, remains out of their reach…so lying clueless idiots?

And then team Remain(2014) UK campaigned on the bollox of Scotland would not be a member of the EU (not that I particularly care) but that was enough to turn the vote. For the other referendum(2014) they stated and campaigned Scotland would not be part of the EU, did they not?

Are the shrooms in season?

Why would I want the brexit vote again even I know that plays into a second Scottish independent referendum where the cock gobblers will not be able to use oooo be very scared Scotland as you will not be part of the EU and the number one weapon they used as project fear.

I hate politics, perhaps I really hate idiots and misinformation the two do not go well together.
EU the sensible thing was to not join in 1973
Ooo 1972 did we not have another lying fuk independence referendum – where the cabinet meets and lies were classified and only released in the last 2 years I think…then 2014 I notice a trend..not that you strike me as English.

No sour grapes here, well other than the chardonnay ones....But let me assure you they are clueless, no stratagems in place.

The UK primary and secondary manufacturing industry was systematically dismantled, and quickly and thoroughly at that, during mad thatchers reign.

Curiously Londonshire was the only region in England to vote remain and the financial institution will jump ship









PeonForHer -> RE: UK economy must be 'match fit' for Brexit (11/20/2016 8:31:27 AM)

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All the doom-and-gloomers predicted a major crash if we chose exit.
Massive unemployment, property price crash, economy crash, trade crash, banks will leave, yada yada yada.
None of it happened. None of it.


We haven't left the EU yet, FD.

quote:

We want OUT. And that's all there is to it.


It pretty clearly isn't all there is to it, hence the unholy political mess we're in.




WhoreMods -> RE: UK economy must be 'match fit' for Brexit (11/20/2016 8:34:59 AM)

Scotland is part of the UK. The UK voted to leave the EU. It doesn't matter how wee Jimmie pisses and moans, and how butthurt the Scots are about losing the subsidies from the EU (I did notice that slipper farmers were one of the main groups voting against leaving the UK back in '14), Scotland is part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU. You probably haven't noticed, but London, Bimingham and most of the west country also voted to stay in Europe, but apart from a few twats in the square mile, none of them are demanding a recount and insisting that they can too leave the country if they'd rather be part of the EEC than Britain. I know that Scots are appallingly bad losers (which is surprising when you consider how much practice Scotland gets at losing stuff), but the current fit of whining is getting a little tiresome by now.

I'm not at all taken with the country's current government (and I hold the SNP largely responsible for its election as they wiped out the Labour vote in Scotland), but that doesn't alter the fact that wee Jimmie has a habit of pissing and moaning whenever a referendum doesn't play out the way she wanted, and then demanding it be restaged. Is it really hard to grasp that I find people who come out with that sort of nonsense complaining about the undemocratic tendencies of the English hilariously hypocritical?




WickedsDesire -> RE: UK economy must be 'match fit' for Brexit (11/20/2016 8:59:15 AM)

There were my words, then your words - Scotland voted to remain - your statement was in error. I cited the figures for all the countries for I am like that...for cry babies let me find out what it was for the UK 52% leave 48% remain, here can be found a pretty map and shires - running gag JC thread - regions districts areas....not that i could ever spell wocetershire (is that close?) Now, when I make a mistook I stand up say I’m sorry.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/eu_referendum/results

I also cited the main platform they stood upon. BREXIT stood for immigrants are taking all your jobs and benefits and bleeding you dry...not sure I am forgetting anything else?

PFH has a (very) point (usually does that one) it is not legally binding anyway and the legal challenges I am not sure there is anything major in the pipeline? Well, that would worry the original outcome - anyone? I am not sure the Scottish Governments position on this

Never forget it was a free vote... no matter thy party/political affiliation 72% turn out johhny foreigner was not permitted a vote btw for we are fair, rarely ;(

No point me droning on about trumps cv when we have cesspool in operation here

Someone, from another continent, last night asked me why is it called the United States. My reply was dunno and it got me thinking why is it called the United Kingdom - fuked if I know.

Scotland as a country is governed ~ 50% of the time by a party who averages 20% of the 100% Scottish vote. We simply got fed up with that. Is that a mandate to govern my country nope..it is a clear rejection

A political disparity-mindset has always existed between Scotland and England. One of them is a good thing, the other is not.

When Scotland get its independence, and it will, I am fine welcoming those in England who wish to join us.

All that aside the UK needs immigration (they are net contributors already). or we need to start fuking like bunnies in heat. BREXIT was somewhat lackadaisical with facts.

Still eh a government who says it will pay the deficit off - what a misleading statement that is by 2014 then 2018 and then 2020 and then never...balance the books (is something completely different and the fukers cant even do that after all the woe)...has added 600 billion to our national debt of 1.6 trillion in a mere 6 years, upped or retirement age to 150, pension pots looking good are they?

Wasn't the one they call May the immigration minister - how did her tenure work out btw.....and that mad dangerous fuker is waiting in the wings and that one actually has a brain (boris)

I said before on here along time ago Iceland and Norway function well not in the EU...Scotland would to for we are smaller population wise 1/10th pishland, and our brains better in every way (most)..sheople are outwith even my remit.

How, will England fair out the EU - train wreck and we would really need to consider building that wall and we would keep out the homophobic and racists - the rest would always be welcome.

Sorry WM are you making up more shite or shrooms in season? Always had you pegged for Scottish myself - unionist not so much, not that is my business....jimmy crankie always freaked me out that act. But I am led to believe England(most) are worst losers and infact the primary reason they voted out...they remind me of the ones who follow trump.

Free will people have apparently - I am inclined to feed people the facts as best i know them...and to this day I remain uncertain how most politicians are not held accountable for their lies the world over.





WickedsDesire -> RE: UK economy must be 'match fit' for Brexit (11/22/2016 5:27:52 AM)

There is so much patently bad & misleading information on this thread by a couple of the deluded sophists so I will correct it briefly as politics is something I dislike.

Notice an attempt at a low blow, but fortunately my loin regions are massive, but here is the truth The English are exceptionally sore losers they tend to fight and riot amongst themselves and innocent young kids are often caught up in the affrays – the animals do not care such is the hatred that within their core – the Scottish do no such thing and by no means do I mean all English.

When the Conservative Party get in in the UK, and they do so 4 out of every 7 occasions, the national deficit goes up, the debt skyrockets....an astonishing £600 billion of debt in a mere current 6 years in office (our total was £900 billion for all of time) before those twats got into office is now at ~£1600 Billion.

Curiously they, the conservatives, say that only occurs under labour administrations. And yet quite the opposite is true. Plus the Conservatives are the least likely of the two to pay it of eg Labour pay of the debt 25% of the time they are in office, and the Conservatives 10% of the time.

So, 1.6 trillion GBP and an additional £100 billion plus required over and above what they will rack up this term ~300 billion plus ~100 billion pllus = 400 billion Plus 1600 billion = £ 2 000 billion. So in essence in 10 years they will have doubled the national debt sickening is it not.


Are employment rates up yes highest ever , or is it 11 years - or is that unemployment) and here are the reasons:
The reason increasing population being the main factor. Many of these so called jobs are zero hour contracts and part time skivy work where hours of work could be 0-40 hours, decided on 5 minutes to 12 hours notice. That way they may deny them basic employment rights.

Poverty up.
Million plus have used food banks in the last year I am not looking that figure up the population of the UK is about 70 million.
Savage cuts to everything especially to the weak porr and vumberbale- nice to see Ian Duncan Smith had a set of balls and resigned.
The slowest economic recovery of all time in the UK.
An increase in the retirement age to ages unheard of in the EU.
A dismantling of fixed pension schemese etc (note they were phased for years to stem the disquiet.)
Wages still at 2010, or is it 2007 levels
Less disposable income unless you are upper middle to upper class
Services falling to pieces.

The only thing other than deficit, debt, poverty, misery that goes up when the Conservatives are in power is the Stock market and that is plundered from the aforementioned mentioned groups.


Now all that aside BREXIT was a free vote, and all parties are split to one extent or another. Indeed our prime minister resigned because of it as he should have done – fair enough the only time I seen him act.

The BREXIT campaign was fought on patently misleading information, made up information and scaremongering, and to a large extent the unknown.

Anyway that is the party in office current CV and they are a train wreck.
The UK has no real jobs as much of the primary and secondary manufacturing jobs were completely decimated during thatches era. The UK is a service industry/sector in the main and these jobs, tax havens aside, hinge on close ties with the EU.

People have free will and I do not doubt ~ 50% of each political party voters voted for one side, and the other 50% for the other – obviously it was 6:4 in Scotland.

The UK has shag all to bargain with, the party currently in power cv speaks for itself – though few people are actually are how horrific it is, the economy will remain depressed-stagnate-decline for the next 10-20 years because of this decision, and the market will crash again…cliff edge was a word used on yesterdays stories fair enough. And the United Kingdom will not last those 10-20 years together.

As politics bore me, most peoples "free will" their inability to examine all sides, and then the actual facts before they make an informed decision.

Team fit we are not, will never be and all of the above is why.




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