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ORIGINAL: Awareness
The media abandoned their role. They enjoy protections under the Constitution precisely because their role is to inform. To present without bias. And they completely abandoned that role to become an agent of a political party. They preached self-righteously about how people should think, they told people who they are, they talked down to them.
Are you serious??
Trump won because he made himself irresistible to the media. If he had wanted them to treat him like just a serious politician, he wouldn't have acted like an incompetent fascist. He wouldn't have pretended that it would be so easy to change the world and might have actually tried to understand how reality works. Whether or not he's even capable of not acting like an incompetent fascist is besides the point... my point is that Trump isn't a victim here, he's an instigator.
If anything, the media respected people far too much... Trump didn't and that's why he won. He knew that certain people were stupid and frustrated enough to believe whatever he told them. The trick is to not openly call people idiots, only treat them like idiots.
It's like that scene in Idiocracy where Not Sure gives up trying to explain why plants need water and just tells them he can talk to plants and they told him that's what they need. People don't like to hear that the road ahead is as complex and boring as it should be... they want to hear that there's a good vs. evil struggle going on, they're the good guys being victimized by the bad guys, it's not their fault, and there's a way to fight back.
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ORIGINAL: Awareness
And in return, the electorate told them to get fucked.
The failure here is on the part of the Left who has the arrogance, the utter audacity to think political dialogue involves preaching instead of discussing.
You don't get to shape society in the image you want. You don't get to prosecute people for pronouns. You don't get to advance the cause of women by legislatively stepping on men. You don't get to create imaginary monsters (rape culture, campus rape culture, gender pay gap) and then demand that people accommodate your lies.
'You don't get to shape society in the image you want'? What does that even mean? So everyone supports Trump and Trump is a man of the people and all of the divisions and protests and anger and fear is just a product of the media?
It seems like every time you post, you're not even talking about the election or left vs. right or society so much as what you personally find annoying (you like pretending this election is about civil rights and feminism as opposed to the economy), and you follow it up by declaring victory as if all of these things are now going to go away and you'll never have to deal with them again.
Trump's victory has all but guaranteed that the people you find so annoying will be even angrier and more aggressive than ever. But seriously, who even fucking cares if they are? You don't seem me as the type to ever be happy anyways so your misery and isolation levels will remain unchanged regardless.
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The Left is failing across Europe, in America and in Oceania. The relentless focus on identity politics and contempt for their working class base has left them with the minority constituency they're so determined to pander to.
No, Europe is failing across Europe. I get that you're anxious to proclaim the death of left-wing ideas and declare permanent victory, but this is simply a pendulum shift brought about by a sense of unease about the future and the direction in which the world is headed. It can, should and will be reversed.
Brexit and Trump aren't about left vs. right, they're about the establishment versus the alternative. If you look at the periods of crisis during the early 20th century, far left ideas were just as likely to take hold as far right ones in troubled countries... which is also exactly what is happening in Europe right now. Hopefully democracy will be able to survive.
If anything, the problem in America at least is that the left has been moving too far to the right for too long and the result is they've pushed the real right so far to the right that they have gone insane.
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When did the Left forget that it was a party whose power derived from the proletariat?
The Democrats weren't revolutionaries, they just supported the labor unions and civil rights. There are left wing parties in Europe that are more protectionist.
And there's a difference between fighting class oppression and catering to the whims of some blue collar over 40 factory workers who want to keep their mind-numbing 9-5 jobs at the expense of the economy as a whole.
The real underclass, ie: non-white non-college grads voted for Hillary, as well as people who make under $50,000/year.
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That's why they keep hitching their wagon to Islam. It's the only major group who will tolerate them - and which is why they're so devoted to massive programs of Islamic immigration. It's only the possibility of Islamic immigration which gives them the prospect of electoral success without going back to their working class base which they now despise.
Outside of the socialist/communist totalitarian regimes... the Left's not in good shape.
'The only major group who will tolerate them' where the fuck are you getting this bullshit?? Minorities and young people are both 'major groups' and they both overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. Everyone below the age of 40 supported Hillary with a vengeance, which seems to me means the right is in more trouble than the left in the future.
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