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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Although landlords had to contend with the same thing as individuals, many had other properties and other income.
They weren't as hard hit as individuals were.

And yes, they evicted a lot of tenants.
Not because they had to sell the property (it did happen, but very rarely), but because they only had short-term agreements and they knew they could always demand a higher rent from new tenants.
It's only recently that legislation has capped benefits.
Up until then, it was guaranteed money in the bank and many private landlords did fuck-all in terms of maintenance to maximise their income.
Many tenants on benefits or low incomes who were already struggling are now faced with crippling rent increases.

I'm sorry, for every poor widdle hard-done-by landlord, there's probably tens of thousands of fucked-over tenants.
It's about time those money-for-old-rope scumbags got their rental incomes capped and poorly maintained properties should be reposessed by legal force.
With all the housing turmoil going on and people being evicted, I've yet to see a landlord that is hard done by.
Pretty much all of them are raking it in and rubbing their hands all the way to the bank.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Landlords in the 80-s were as bad as they are in the 21st century.
My daughter was living in nottingham for a year(2014) and going to the Uni there, their landlord was a sleeze bag even I was surprised by. And I knew plenty from the 80s that are still fucking over their tenants.
Being homeless in the UK was and will always be a bad experience, the same as it is for most countries, and Yes, Ive been there, and thru the housing process, shitty tenants, shitty scumlords, and predators on all sides.

And the reason so many of the homeless, dont like shelters or hostels is because often they are worse than being on the street.
Many of them have mental health issues, there are many who chose/end up in prison. They cannot get the proper care, but that is something that conservatives politicians (in the UK, the US and Canada specifically) think isnt something to be concerned about. its simply a character flaw. Not the governments problem.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Landlords in the 80-s were as bad as they are in the 21st century.
My daughter was living in nottingham for a year(2014) and going to the Uni there, their landlord was a sleeze bag even I was surprised by. And I knew plenty from the 80s that are still fucking over their tenants.
Being homeless in the UK was and will always be a bad experience, the same as it is for most countries, and Yes, Ive been there, and thru the housing process, shitty tenants, shitty scumlords, and predators on all sides.

And the reason so many of the homeless, dont like shelters or hostels is because often they are worse than being on the street.
Many of them have mental health issues, there are many who chose/end up in prison. They cannot get the proper care, but that is something that conservatives politicians (in the UK, the US and Canada specifically) think isnt something to be concerned about. its simply a character flaw. Not the governments problem.

an so you were out here everyday rooty toot tootin for unaffordable ohaha care for the us, so we can join your shitty pity party

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Landlords in the 80-s were as bad as they are in the 21st century.
My daughter was living in nottingham for a year(2014) and going to the Uni there, their landlord was a sleeze bag even I was surprised by. And I knew plenty from the 80s that are still fucking over their tenants.
Being homeless in the UK was and will always be a bad experience, the same as it is for most countries, and Yes, Ive been there, and thru the housing process, shitty tenants, shitty scumlords, and predators on all sides.

And the reason so many of the homeless, dont like shelters or hostels is because often they are worse than being on the street.
Many of them have mental health issues, there are many who chose/end up in prison. They cannot get the proper care, but that is something that conservatives politicians (in the UK, the US and Canada specifically) think isnt something to be concerned about. its simply a character flaw. Not the governments problem.

an so you were out here everyday rooty toot tootin for unaffordable ohaha care for the us, so we can join your shitty pity party

I was out????, where rooting for the ACA? ??????
I think you will find as I have said more than a few times, Ive always been for single payer. English and Canadian style. Ihave never stated either were perfect or without problems.
Hallucinate elsewhere.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Here is something for you to see if you can explain.

Initially the idea of taxation was to provide food and other necessities for your country to protect itself. That taxation was based on the estate in land and the 'profits' made resulting from land tenancy (originally).

That tax amounted to 10% roughly.

I'd have to look to know for sure but I presume your taxes are not within the publics ability to vote for or against and like here just foisted upon you, in a 'here is what we did now you pay up or get the fuck out' proposition.

While I can certainly understand paying for necessary infrastructure that is fine, and I can certainly understand taxing appt complex landlords in the business of rentals, however how did that gain a foothold, in the private homes sector, where a home is a necessity for survival and 'not' a business?

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ORIGINAL: tamaka


https://www.rt.com/op-edge/367955-homelessness-great-britain-shame/

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


But ... but ... but ... the UK is so much more "advanced" and "forward-thinking" than we are

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Michael

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Hostels are almost always full so there's often nowhere to go except to invade empty properties and abandoned buildings wherever they can find them.

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Landlords in the 80-s were as bad as they are in the 21st century.
My daughter was living in nottingham for a year(2014) and going to the Uni there, their landlord was a sleeze bag even I was surprised by. And I knew plenty from the 80s that are still fucking over their tenants.
Being homeless in the UK was and will always be a bad experience, the same as it is for most countries, and Yes, Ive been there, and thru the housing process, shitty tenants, shitty scumlords, and predators on all sides.

And the reason so many of the homeless, dont like shelters or hostels is because often they are worse than being on the street.
Many of them have mental health issues, there are many who chose/end up in prison. They cannot get the proper care, but that is something that conservatives politicians (in the UK, the US and Canada specifically) think isnt something to be concerned about. its simply a character flaw. Not the governments problem.

an so you were out here everyday rooty toot tootin for unaffordable ohaha care for the us, so we can join your shitty pity party

I was out????, where rooting for the ACA? ??????
I think you will find as I have said more than a few times, Ive always been for single payer. English and Canadian style. Ihave never stated either were perfect or without problems.
Hallucinate elsewhere.

The R's that I know around here (Texas) spout all the lies about single payer that they have been fed.. they really believe that shite.. But knowing how the US govt (Feds & state) screw anything they touch up, even if they were to set up single payer here, they would just fuck it up sooooo bad.. it wouldnt be anything like English or Canadian single payer..

And Ryan (apparently) wants to change Medicare into some sorta voucher system.. Shortly after the election, I talked to a quadriplegic woman about it and she squawks about how fine that is for the politicians since their healthcare is covered, yet she voted the Rs in!!!.. Gotta love American logic.. [&:]

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

I can't see that happening here.
Local councils already clear out 'cardboard cities' whenever they appear so the likes of favelas sprouting up any time soon or for any length of time isn't likely.

Hostels are almost always full so there's often nowhere to go except to invade empty properties and abandoned buildings wherever they can find them.

As I said in post#12, places to survive are being pared into non-existence so there's even less 'legal' places to find.
When I was homeless for nearly 3 months, I was living in my car and was constantly woken by police and moved on even though I was legally parked.
Being homeless with no money, no job, no reliable friends, no food and constantly cold is no fun at all - been there, done that, got the T-shirt. It's demoralising and downright fucking awful and not something I would want to repeat.
I was fortunate in having a car so at least I was dry; but the humiliation of begging for 50p to get something from the 'soup kitchens' (not always free) is something I'll always remember.
I was also very fortunate in having a couple of people I knew where I could call in and get a wash/shower and a cuppa a couple of times a week.
I couldn't imagine not being able to keep relatively clean and sleeping outside in the cold wet and windy nights. *shudders*
I was lucky compared to some others.
[ETA: most of my food came from raiding the daily chuck-outs and rejects in the bins at the back of supermarkets and food outlets]

So no, favelas or anything similar isn't going to be tolerated here.
They'd sooner you were a homeless statistic than allow that sort of thing.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Im loving these cities that have housed so many homeless vets, BUT it needs to be a priority as well for homeless and mentally ill civvies.



This State Just Became The First To House All Its Homeless Veterans.
On Veterans Day, Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) and President Obama announced that the state is the first in the country to end veteran homelessness.
That means that every veteran who wants housing has been offered a place after the state says it has helped more than 1,400 veterans get into permanent housing in the last year. It also now has structures in place to ensure that any veteran who falls into homelessness in the future will be able to get back into housing within 90 days. As of 2013, there were more than 7,600 homeless people in the state, 9 percent of whom were veterans.
Connecticut announced in August that it housed all chronically homeless veterans — those that have been homeless for a year straight or four times in the last three — but Virginia is the first state to say it has found housing for them all.
Virginia beat the deadline it signed on to as part of the White House’s challenge to end veteran homelessness by the end of the year. Some cities had already gotten there: New Orleans, Houston, and Las Cruces, New Mexico ended veteran homelessness earlier in the year, while Phoenix and Salt Lake City ended chronic homelessness last year. On Wednesday, Obama also announced that Syracuse and Schenectady in New York and Las Vegas had ended homelessness for their veteran populations. More cities and states are likely to make announcements before the end of the year, as more than 20 mayors across the country also signed on.
It can be challenging in some places, though. Los Angeles had signed on to the pledge, only to pull out two months ago while announcing a state of emergency for its homeless population. Portland, Oregon, Seattle, and the state of Hawaii have declared similar states of emergency.
Housing is the biggest variables. New York City, for example, has signed onto the pledge and this summer said it was on track to get there by the end of the year, but there is very little available housing stock, let alone affordable housing, to put veterans in. With enough funding for affordable housing, the country could actually end homelessness for all people, veterans and others, a population of more than 600,000 people, relatively quickly and easily. There are some mechanisms available to do just that they just haven’t been given the resources.

https://thinkprogress.org/this-state-just-became-the-first-to-house-all-its-homeless-veterans-1bcbb361c27b#.ogfef65i7