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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 7:51:54 AM   
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Actually, conspiracy theorists' bullshit is a big reason for a natural scepticism about governments and other institutionalised authorities getting dismissed out of hand by a lot of people.
One could almost wonder if there might not be a conspiracy to discredit anti-authoritarian attitudes by deliberately associating them with a load of twatwaffle about Her Maj being a reptoid, shellsuits curing cancer, L Ron Hubbard killing Kennedy or the holocaust and the moon landings both being faked by the same special effects company...

More egregious and really seriously cruel are the stories that the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School were false flags all portrayed by actors. Nobody died. No family lost a child. Cunt-puke!

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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 9:14:13 AM   
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Conspiracy theorists are RIGHT AGAIN!

So, tell us, why were Adm. Kimmel and Gen. Short caught unawares?



This isnt 1960 Vince. This is the information age. These operations were easy peezy to cover up post ww2, not so much today.

The gig today is all about MIHOP/LIHOP and hordes of internet jtrig et al 'posers' paid for by tax dollars, da gubmint and/or 'their' private agencies to create as much confusion as possible which serves to promote 'THEIR' interests while cleaners come in and destroy/suppress enough evidence giving them plausible deniability (911, murrah, tonkin, BoP, Gladio [an endless fucking list] etc), to suppress dissent and cause social discontent, insuring the truth is well hidden hiding behind 'National Security' for 50 years until all 'parties in collusion' are dead and so that no reprocussions can follow since you cant prosecute dead criminals.

The object is to disrupt and terrorize the public by causing total confusion by a myriad of distortions and outright lies they are not held accountable and there is a long list growing longer every day. For 911 LIHOP has been proven a long time ago, and as time goes on that picture is showing us its closer to MIHOP.

Its a big club, the people arent in it, they are victims of it.

'ANYONE' who has done any research what so ever knows that 99% of the time you cant get something through foia there is a gubmint perp in the shadows.

Lets make a 'gubmint'anti-corruption' act, big umbrella, so we can catch em and put em away, see how far that goes, they [da gubmint] will be laughing till the end of time over that.

The answer to your question is in the reference link I posted in my previous post, you may wish to read it.






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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 9:34:47 AM   
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Actually, conspiracy theorists' bullshit is a big reason for a natural scepticism about governments and other institutionalised authorities getting dismissed out of hand by a lot of people.
One could almost wonder if there might not be a conspiracy to discredit anti-authoritarian attitudes by deliberately associating them with a load of twatwaffle about Her Maj being a reptoid, shellsuits curing cancer, L Ron Hubbard killing Kennedy or the holocaust and the moon landings both being faked by the same special effects company...

More egregious and really seriously cruel are the stories that the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School were false flags all portrayed by actors. Nobody died. No family lost a child. Cunt-puke!



Proves my point.

The laughable use of ridiculous single digit IQ zero clue theories like the queen is a lizard to attempt discredit reasoned discourse by educated researchers.

Egregious? Cruel? The irony is that posers engaged in subterfuge never pull out, post and discuss hard evidence, merely stand on their soapboxes hypocritically shouting conspiracy theorist attempting to sway public opinion playing on knee jerk responses because the public is unoganized and does not have investigatory abilities at their disposal on the tax dollar like the perps have to cover everything up.




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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 9:36:11 AM   
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Conspiracy theorists are RIGHT AGAIN!

So, tell us, why were Adm. Kimmel and Gen. Short caught unawares?

Because their "superiors" were convince that any first strike would be in the Philippines.

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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 9:38:27 AM   
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Actually, conspiracy theorists' bullshit is a big reason for a natural scepticism about governments and other institutionalised authorities getting dismissed out of hand by a lot of people.
One could almost wonder if there might not be a conspiracy to discredit anti-authoritarian attitudes by deliberately associating them with a load of twatwaffle about Her Maj being a reptoid, shellsuits curing cancer, L Ron Hubbard killing Kennedy or the holocaust and the moon landings both being faked by the same special effects company...

Or Trump being a fascist and racist.

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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 9:55:37 AM   
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Conspiracy theorists are RIGHT AGAIN!

So, tell us, why were Adm. Kimmel and Gen. Short caught unawares?

Because their "superiors" were convince that any first strike would be in the Philippines.



yeh contrary to the EVIDENCE, illustrating people do not know the difference between a self serving political cover story and facts.

Additionally to believe the cover story you would have to come up with a really good 'excuse' the fleet was grid marked.

twigs dont make good life preservers




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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 10:18:08 AM   
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This isnt 1960 Vince. This is the information age. These operations were easy peezy to cover up post ww2, not so much today.

It is not just government now (if ever) The social media put every half ass tin hat into the game. See my OP on the pizzeria pedophile conspiracy that led to gunfire in DC.

And the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary was a government false flag? All those kids were paid actors? FFS. Not saying that you made the claim, just saying it is emblematic of the InfoWars cuntpuke we are doused with.

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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 11:08:39 AM   
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Actually, conspiracy theorists' bullshit is a big reason for a natural scepticism about governments and other institutionalised authorities getting dismissed out of hand by a lot of people.
One could almost wonder if there might not be a conspiracy to discredit anti-authoritarian attitudes by deliberately associating them with a load of twatwaffle about Her Maj being a reptoid, shellsuits curing cancer, L Ron Hubbard killing Kennedy or the holocaust and the moon landings both being faked by the same special effects company...

Or Trump being a fascist and racist.

He's pandering to the conspiracy nuts as well, but I think the issues with a tiny-fingered cockgoblin go a bit deeper than his whining about "draining the swamp".

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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 11:28:25 AM   
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Actually, conspiracy theorists' bullshit is a big reason for a natural scepticism about governments and other institutionalised authorities getting dismissed out of hand by a lot of people.
One could almost wonder if there might not be a conspiracy to discredit anti-authoritarian attitudes by deliberately associating them with a load of twatwaffle about Her Maj being a reptoid, shellsuits curing cancer, L Ron Hubbard killing Kennedy or the holocaust and the moon landings both being faked by the same special effects company...

But objectively what is very important to realize that as long as any even sizable minority let alone a solid majority of people feel a certain way about how certain things happen, or happened, it is often directly as a result of govt. and institutions failing to satisfactorily investigate them.

Once that occurs, then one is often faced with the two sides to these questions being simply two competing conspiracy theories. Then there is always a question of who always benefits most from the result and where is the 'bullshit' coming from ?

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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 11:45:50 AM   
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No argument, but the thing that must be born in mind about conspiracy theorists is that they take this simple question of "cui bono?" and then they add a load of hysterical and often nonsensical bullshit to try to hide that, then act all butthurt whenever they're accused of muddying the waters. As age encroaches and I get more cynical, I'm increasingly convinced that muddying the waters and hiding the shit that should be examined is all they're good for, and I wonder if somebody conspiratorial who they should be complaining about is encouraging them to do so.
But that's paranoia, and probably mocking the afflicted as well, isn't it?

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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 4:42:02 PM   
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Actually, conspiracy theorists' bullshit is a big reason for a natural scepticism about governments and other institutionalised authorities getting dismissed out of hand by a lot of people.
One could almost wonder if there might not be a conspiracy to discredit anti-authoritarian attitudes by deliberately associating them with a load of twatwaffle about Her Maj being a reptoid, shellsuits curing cancer, L Ron Hubbard killing Kennedy or the holocaust and the moon landings both being faked by the same special effects company...

Or Trump being a fascist and racist.

At least you ignore facts entirely -- you don't mind claiming something is true without evidence, and you don't mind denying it's true when there is.

Consistently mindless.

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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 6:03:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Actually, conspiracy theorists' bullshit is a big reason for a natural scepticism about governments and other institutionalised authorities getting dismissed out of hand by a lot of people.
One could almost wonder if there might not be a conspiracy to discredit anti-authoritarian attitudes by deliberately associating them with a load of twatwaffle about Her Maj being a reptoid, shellsuits curing cancer, L Ron Hubbard killing Kennedy or the holocaust and the moon landings both being faked by the same special effects company...

More egregious and really seriously cruel are the stories that the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School were false flags all portrayed by actors. Nobody died. No family lost a child. Cunt-puke!

That was just stupid, like most conspiracy theories.

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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 6:26:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Actually, conspiracy theorists' bullshit is a big reason for a natural scepticism about governments and other institutionalised authorities getting dismissed out of hand by a lot of people.
One could almost wonder if there might not be a conspiracy to discredit anti-authoritarian attitudes by deliberately associating them with a load of twatwaffle about Her Maj being a reptoid, shellsuits curing cancer, L Ron Hubbard killing Kennedy or the holocaust and the moon landings both being faked by the same special effects company...

More egregious and really seriously cruel are the stories that the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School were false flags all portrayed by actors. Nobody died. No family lost a child. Cunt-puke!

That was just stupid, like most conspiracy theories.

It is not so simple as stupid. The Alex Jones Brigade hassled the shit out of the father of at least one of the dead children.

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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 6:32:18 PM   
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Actually, conspiracy theorists' bullshit is a big reason for a natural scepticism about governments and other institutionalised authorities getting dismissed out of hand by a lot of people.
One could almost wonder if there might not be a conspiracy to discredit anti-authoritarian attitudes by deliberately associating them with a load of twatwaffle about Her Maj being a reptoid, shellsuits curing cancer, L Ron Hubbard killing Kennedy or the holocaust and the moon landings both being faked by the same special effects company...

But objectively what is very important to realize that as long as any even sizable minority let alone a solid majority of people feel a certain way about how certain things happen, or happened, it is often directly as a result of govt. and institutions failing to satisfactorily investigate them.

Once that occurs, then one is often faced with the two sides to these questions being simply two competing conspiracy theories. Then there is always a question of who always benefits most from the result and where is the 'bullshit' coming from ?

The internet has changed all that. Today it takes maybe only a few blog and Twitter postings to go viral, having an amplifying affect that arouses the quivering gonads of all "citizen reporters" leading to potential tragedy.

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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 11:25:29 PM   
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stupid, like most conspiracy theories.



far more stupid people than there are conspiracy theories, that old worn out cia tripe.


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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 11:35:19 PM   
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But objectively what is very important to realize that as long as any even sizable minority let alone a solid majority of people feel a certain way about how certain things happen, or happened, it is often directly as a result of govt. and institutions failing to satisfactorily investigate them.

Once that occurs, then one is often faced with the two sides to these questions being simply two competing conspiracy theories. Then there is always a question of who always benefits most from the result and where is the 'bullshit' coming from ?



Yep you got honest joe gubmint (dubya) tells us not to listen to any conspiracy theories except the approved official (never proven) conspiracy theory of 19 hijackers versus those who investigated the investigators and have long since proven the fraud, that the towers were in fact demolished.

Truthers didnt give a shit so much about who did the conspiracy as the load of bullshit the gubmint fed to us, the destruction of evidence, falsified official reports, rejected foia requests. There is so much propaganda material out there today, history will record the official lie as history, like it has so often in the past.

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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 11:46:34 PM   
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This isnt 1960 Vince. This is the information age. These operations were easy peezy to cover up post ww2, not so much today.

It is not just government now (if ever) The social media put every half ass tin hat into the game. See my OP on the pizzeria pedophile conspiracy that led to gunfire in DC.

And the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary was a government false flag? All those kids were paid actors? FFS. Not saying that you made the claim, just saying it is emblematic of the InfoWars cuntpuke we are doused with.



I never researched sandy hook so you are barking up the wrong tree and social media is nothing short of awesome, they kicked the national institute of standzrds and technology NIST right in the nuts and they are headed for court of falsified records of 911. Avery case is being looked at again and countless other awesomeness, that your totalitarian Pwned police state msm could give a shit less about. Anyone who knocks infowars has questionable allegiance.





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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/6/2016 11:49:12 PM   
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The internet has changed all that. Today it takes maybe only a few blog and Twitter postings to go viral, having an amplifying affect that arouses the quivering gonads of all "citizen reporters" leading to potential tragedy.



Thanks to the total failure of the traitorous msm.

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Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/7/2016 5:21:31 AM   
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This isnt 1960 Vince. This is the information age. These operations were easy peezy to cover up post ww2, not so much today.

It is not just government now (if ever) The social media put every half ass tin hat into the game. See my OP on the pizzeria pedophile conspiracy that led to gunfire in DC.

And the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary was a government false flag? All those kids were paid actors? FFS. Not saying that you made the claim, just saying it is emblematic of the InfoWars cuntpuke we are doused with.



I never researched sandy hook so you are barking up the wrong tree and social media is nothing short of awesome, they kicked the national institute of standzrds and technology NIST right in the nuts and they are headed for court of falsified records of 911. Avery case is being looked at again and countless other awesomeness, that your totalitarian Pwned police state msm could give a shit less about. Anyone who knocks infowars has questionable allegiance.


Questionable allegiance? To whom do I owe allegiance? Not to InfoWars certainly. Sod off.




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RE: Pearl Harbor plus 75 - 12/7/2016 5:23:21 AM   
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The internet has changed all that. Today it takes maybe only a few blog and Twitter postings to go viral, having an amplifying affect that arouses the quivering gonads of all "citizen reporters" leading to potential tragedy.



Thanks to the total failure of the traitorous msm.

Fail. Whatever you perceive of the msm, it did not invent the internet.

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