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Human GPS Tracking - 12/7/2016 1:45:43 PM   
tamaka


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And so it begins...

http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/05/source-gop-leadership-to-bring-human-gps-tracking-bill-to-floor-this-week/


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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/7/2016 2:02:54 PM   
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nutsuckers trying to get into your panties and be the big government.

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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/7/2016 2:17:41 PM   
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ok colonies, brits canadians and aussies and other pundits and posers tell us how great this is for us!


Americans for Limited Government Rick Manning cautioned in a press release last Tuesday that the bill, “is almost too absurd to believe that it is true, but the House Judiciary Committee is considering H.R. 4919 that would allow for the Attorney General to authorize tracking chips to be inserted involuntarily into people who are incapacitated with Alzheimer’s and other fatal dementias.”

.....if a doctor thought one would be helpful for a specific patient.



now we know the reason for national health care.






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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/7/2016 3:21:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka
And so it begins...

http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/05/source-gop-leadership-to-bring-human-gps-tracking-bill-to-floor-this-week/


It already passed in the Senate this summer, wonder why the article didn't even mention it.

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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/7/2016 3:29:25 PM   
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Yeah, that's a big no from me. tracking bracelets etc. are available if people want to buy one.

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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/7/2016 3:29:40 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka
And so it begins...


please don't infer one way or the other as to my position on the bill but that is a ridiculously melodramatic statement---as if what, the republicans were just waiting to practice some sort of surreptitious surveillance on all humanity and now that trumps going to be president, they're off and running??

did you (and everyone below you/above this post) even read the bill?

its an amendment to an already existing bill from 1994 and even 2012--that's presidents Clinton and Obama vile critter parts. please also note the democrat co-sponsors of the bill. seriously, go nutsuck yourself.

the bill concerns people with dementia and other debilitating conditions that render them helpless when it comes to their own safety.

quote:

9 (1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 120 days
10 after the date of enactment of this Act, the Attorney
11 General, in consultation with the Secretary of
12 Health and Human Services and leading research,
13 advocacy, self-advocacy, and service organizations,
14 shall establish standards and best practices relating
15 to the use of non-invasive and non-permanent track
16 ing technology, where a guardian or parent, in con
17 sultation with the individual’s health care provider
,
18 has determined that a non-invasive and non-perma
19 nent tracking device is the least restrictive alter
20 native, to locate individuals as described in sub
21section (a)(2) of section 240001 of the Violent
22 Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994
23 (42 U.S.C. 14181), as added by this Act.


2) VOLUNTARY PARTICIPATION.—Nothing in
2 this Act may be construed to require that a parent
3 or guardian use a tracking device to monitor the lo
cation of a child or adult under that parent or
5 guardian’s supervision if the parent or guardian
6 does not believe that the use of such device is nec
essary or in the interest of the child or adult under
8 supervision.




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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/7/2016 3:38:58 PM   
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Once they insert chips into people (for any reason) it begins to 'normalize' the practice. They will find other 'good' reasons (protect our children, etc) and in time, everyone will be tracked.

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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/7/2016 3:51:49 PM   
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did you actually read my post??

there is no "chip insertion" and there is no "they" either in so much as you are referring to government. the referent in question here are parents and guardians.

the bill is full of the words "non-invasive" and "non-permanent." they are talking about things like bracelets, anklets, shoes, clothing, etc and its already been going on for years.







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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/7/2016 3:58:51 PM   
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quote:

did you (and everyone below you/above this post) even read the bill?

Nope, i admit I did not. Mea Culpa.
Thanks for posting the details, I withdraw my objections.

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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/7/2016 4:34:18 PM   
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The Bill is H.R. 4919

I don't see anything that specifies that the tracking device development money must be for non- invasive technology

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr4919/text

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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/7/2016 5:01:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

The Bill is H.R. 4919

I don't see anything that specifies that the tracking device development money must be for non- invasive technology

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr4919/text

Because that is covered in the bill that is being amended.

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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/7/2016 5:32:02 PM   
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What is not just beginning is wireless digital broadcast i.e., RF (radio frequency) technology. What is also not just beginning, is that that technology can be encapsulated, powered in a small silicone device that can be implanted in many things...including you.

The future (and present) if one chooses, can be a digitized, RF micro-chipped lifestyle. HERE

What concern is beginning, is when one may no longer...have the choice.



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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/7/2016 11:35:04 PM   
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Well America spies on everyone so why not nail a satellite dish to these malcontents skulls... in for a penny, in for a pound, as they say.

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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/8/2016 12:43:03 AM   
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What exactly is the argument for people not being GPS chipped?

Seems like there would be a lot less crime, also if the right truly wants to get tough on illegal immigration, this seems the easiest way. No chip, no service.

Yeah, the pretense of freedom is over, but by now, it is just that...

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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/8/2016 1:40:23 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

The Bill is H.R. 4919

I don't see anything that specifies that the tracking device development money must be for non- invasive technology

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr4919/text


go back and read the bill linked from your original daily caller article, what I posted in my first response---the language says: "non-invasive" and "non-permanent."

http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20161205/HR4919.pdf

what you linked to in your last post doesn't appear as the entire bill.

although, granted its difficult to understand how congress operates and how these things reconcile.

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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/8/2016 3:46:21 AM   
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Every time I see something like this, I know it's not as bad as it seems simply because everyone knows the public would go apeshit if it were.

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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/8/2016 5:02:22 AM   
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Like when they cheered on the Patriot Act?

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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/8/2016 5:17:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka
And so it begins...


please don't infer one way or the other as to my position on the bill but that is a ridiculously melodramatic statement---as if what, the republicans were just waiting to practice some sort of surreptitious surveillance on all humanity and now that trumps going to be president, they're off and running??

did you (and everyone below you/above this post) even read the bill?

its an amendment to an already existing bill from 1994 and even 2012--that's presidents Clinton and Obama vile critter parts. please also note the democrat co-sponsors of the bill. seriously, go nutsuck yourself.

the bill concerns people with dementia and other debilitating conditions that render them helpless when it comes to their own safety.

quote:

9 (1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 120 days
10 after the date of enactment of this Act, the Attorney
11 General, in consultation with the Secretary of
12 Health and Human Services and leading research,
13 advocacy, self-advocacy, and service organizations,
14 shall establish standards and best practices relating
15 to the use of non-invasive and non-permanent track
16 ing technology, where a guardian or parent, in con
17 sultation with the individual’s health care provider
,
18 has determined that a non-invasive and non-perma
19 nent tracking device is the least restrictive alter
20 native, to locate individuals as described in sub
21section (a)(2) of section 240001 of the Violent
22 Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994
23 (42 U.S.C. 14181), as added by this Act.


2) VOLUNTARY PARTICIPATION.—Nothing in
2 this Act may be construed to require that a parent
3 or guardian use a tracking device to monitor the lo
cation of a child or adult under that parent or
5 guardian’s supervision if the parent or guardian
6 does not believe that the use of such device is nec
essary or in the interest of the child or adult under
8 supervision.




The RFID implant of the people is purely a nutsucker brand of Nazism, dogshit44.

(1) in the section header, by striking “ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE PATIENT” and inserting “AMERICANS”

AMERICANS? Did you even read the bill dogshit44?

(1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 120 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Attorney General, in consultation with the Secretary of Health and Human Services and leading research, advocacy, self-advocacy, and service organizations, shall establish standards and best practices relating to the use of tracking technology to locate individuals as described in subsection (a)(2) of section 240001 of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (42 U.S.C. 14181), as added by this Act.

(2) REQUIREMENTS.—In establishing the standards and best practices required under paragraph (1), the Attorney General shall—

(A) determine—

(i) the criteria used to determine which individuals would benefit from the use of a tracking device;

(ii) who should have direct access to the tracking system; and

(iii) which types of tracking devices can be used in compliance with the standards and best practices; and

(B) establish standards and best practices the Attorney General determines are necessary to the administration of a tracking system, including procedures to—

(i) safeguard the privacy of the data used by the tracking device such that—

(I) access to the data is restricted to agencies determined necessary by the Attorney General; and

(II) use of the data is solely for the purpose of preventing injury or death;

(ii) establish criteria to determine whether use of the tracking device is the least restrictive alternative in order to prevent risk of injury or death before issuing the tracking device, including the previous consideration of less restrictive alternatives;

(iii) provide training for law enforcement agencies to recognize signs of abuse during interactions with applicants for tracking devices;

(iv) protect the civil rights and liberties of the individuals who use tracking devices, including their rights under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States;

(v) establish a complaint and investigation process to address—

(I) incidents of noncompliance by recipients of grants under subsection (a)(2) of section 240001 of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (42 U.S.C. 14181), as added by this Act, with the best practices established by the Attorney General or other applicable law; and

(II) use of a tracking device over the objection of an individual; and

(vi) determine the role that State agencies should have in the administration of a tracking system.

(b) Required Compliance.—

(1) IN GENERAL.—Each entity that receives a grant under subsection (a)(2) of section 240001 of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (42 U.S.C. 14181), as added by this Act, shall comply with any standards and best practices relating to the use of tracking devices established by the Attorney General in accordance with subsection (a).

(2) DETERMINATION OF COMPLIANCE.—The Attorney General, in consultation with the Secretary of Health and Human Services, shall determine whether an entity that receives a grant under subsection (a)(2) of section 240001 of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (42 U.S.C. 14181), as added by this Act, acts in compliance with the requirement described in paragraph (1).

(c) Applicability Of Standards And Best Practices.—The standards and best practices established by the Attorney General under subsection (a) shall apply only to the grant programs authorized under subsection (a)(2) of section 240001 of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (42 U.S.C. 14181), as added by this Act.

I dont know who you felchgobbled for your little pretend bit of asswipe you say is the bill, but there is your actual bill language, not the jizz you are swallowing from your fucking nutsucker slobberblogs propaganda orders for the feebleminded.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4919/text

Do you know that other people can actually see the stupid shit you post, dogshit44?
None of the felchgobbling you are posting is factual, or credible, address the actual bill, not dogshit44 felchgobbling.


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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/8/2016 5:25:52 AM   
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Ah the Patriot Act that thingy still going https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act Chipping their humans seemed the next logical step.

America has no freedom...in the land of the free O'er the land of the free as the song thingy goes,

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RE: Human GPS Tracking - 12/8/2016 5:34:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Like when they cheered on the Patriot Act?


If there had just been another 9/11, I might think it was a valid comparison.

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