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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 9:54:42 AM   
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Yeah, not that global warming is wrong, it just does not prove intent of the rich to kill off 80 % of the human race.


Big oil doesn't want to kill off 80% of the human race.
They just don't care if that's what happens while they're making all that money.

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 10:58:47 AM   
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Well the conservatives like Putin and the libs want to see the country destroyed so what else would one expect except overall ambivalece to the whole thing.


So because some RWNJs like Putin that means it's okay for him to interfere in elections?

Nixon broke into DNC HQ and he was forced to resign... Trump collaborates with a foreign autocrat to and that's all fine and dandy and he RWNJs rush to his and Russia's defense.

I am seriously shocked at the lengths you people will go to in order to avoid acknowledging a problem.

Again you are working with facts filtered through 40 years of propaganda, Nixon was NOT involved with the breaking, he was forced from office (by Republicans no less) because of the cover up, a way of life for the Clinton's .

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 10:59:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Well the conservatives like Putin and the libs want to see the country destroyed so what else would one expect except overall ambivalece to the whole thing.


So because some RWNJs like Putin that means it's okay for him to interfere in elections?

Nixon broke into DNC HQ and he was forced to resign... Trump collaborates with a foreign autocrat to and that's all fine and dandy and he RWNJs rush to his and Russia's defense.

I am seriously shocked at the lengths you people will go to in order to avoid acknowledging a problem.

Again you are working with facts filtered through 40 years of propaganda, Nixon was NOT involved with the breaking, he was forced from office (by Republicans no less) because of the cover up, a way of life for the Clinton's .


No, he was forced from office for breaking the law. a way of life for nutsuckers.

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 11:02:09 AM   
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"Secret CIA Assessment"...

Then why do we know all about it?
Maybe the Russians hacked the CIA.
AGAIN!

This is either a total fraud, or the word of a felon that it is real and that he/she didn't doctor it.

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 11:03:39 AM   
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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 11:08:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Well the conservatives like Putin and the libs want to see the country destroyed so what else would one expect except overall ambivalece to the whole thing.


So because some RWNJs like Putin that means it's okay for him to interfere in elections?

Nixon broke into DNC HQ and he was forced to resign... Trump collaborates with a foreign autocrat to and that's all fine and dandy and he RWNJs rush to his and Russia's defense.

I am seriously shocked at the lengths you people will go to in order to avoid acknowledging a problem.

Then you think Obama should have been impeached for telling the Russians, on video no less, to hold back, make the re-election easier (in 2012) and he would have more freedom to co-operate with them after the election.
This after you stated earlier that the only proof you have of Trumps collaboration is that you wouldn't put it past him.

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 11:10:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Whether Trump was involved is another question entirely.

That the Russians were involved is certainly a serious matter.

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 6:16:52 PM   
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Whether Trump was involved is another question entirely.

That the Russians were involved is certainly a serious matter.


How is it serious if the POTUS invited them to do it, i wonder?

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 6:35:12 PM   
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Whether Trump was involved is another question entirely.

That the Russians were involved is certainly a serious matter.


How is it serious if the POTUS invited them to do it, i wonder?


He hasn't been inaugurated yet. And when he made that invitation, he wasn't even PEOTUS. Regardless, POTUS is not all powerful. There are some things he doesn't get to decide, and I'm pretty sure this is one of them.

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 7:20:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Whether Trump was involved is another question entirely.

That the Russians were involved is certainly a serious matter.


SO serious... But only if it may have helped a Republican.

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 7:24:24 PM   
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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 9:10:30 PM   
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And nice job, too, ignoring the fact that intent is precisely the totally unproven claim.


Just because it wouldn't hold up in court doesn't mean that everything about it doesn't reek of Putin.
After so much practice, it's safe to assume that he knows how to get away with it.

But since Hillary hasn't been convicted for making her computer so hackable we can't say she did anything wrong.

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 9:12:22 PM   
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We all know that CIA isn't always right. Unfortunately. ODNI, FBI, DHS cannot concur with the CIA Analysis for whatever reason, then it leave the analysis dubius. I look at the Clinton investigation into her e-mails. My personal belief and what the FBI conflict. Don't have first hand information needed to proceed to prosecution. Therefore, regardless of my personal belief it didn't really happen. WMD's, another one. CIA is a cross spectrum speculator. Did the Russians hack. Probably. Why? Probably intelligence gathering. Would we do the same thing. Probably. Would we release our findings? Probably not, unless we saw some advantage. I really can't think of any intelligence service worth it's salt that wouldn't.

The same people who "know " that this "proves" things not even claimed by the alleged report tell us all the time that the CIA lied about Iraq.

Thus either nothing the CIA says can't be trusted, which would includes this, of the War was justified and their is still no evidence that Trump was involved.

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 9:25:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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And nice job, too, ignoring the fact that intent is precisely the totally unproven claim.


Just because it wouldn't hold up in court doesn't mean that everything about it doesn't reek of Putin.
After so much practice, it's safe to assume that he knows how to get away with it.

But since Hillary hasn't been convicted for making her computer so hackable we can't say she did anything wrong.

Yeah, its so hackable only nutsuckers and welfare patients can felchgobble about whats on it without any proof of anything.

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/13/2016 9:30:24 PM   
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Again you are working with facts filtered through 40 years of propaganda, Nixon was NOT involved with the breaking, he was forced from office (by Republicans no less) because of the cover up, a way of life for the Clinton's .


I wasn't being literal.

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Then you think Obama should have been impeached for telling the Russians, on video no less, to hold back, make the re-election easier (in 2012) and he would have more freedom to co-operate with them after the election.
This after you stated earlier that the only proof you have of Trumps collaboration is that you wouldn't put it past him.


I was speculating.

And I really don't think Obama was inviting the Russians to interfere with the 2012 election.

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/14/2016 6:18:24 AM   
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Status: online 		Here is the thing - The Cold War ended 30+ years ago and it was with the Soviet Union, not Russia. Further improving relations with Russia (or frankly almost any country) is a good thing. We can't be making international enemies just because Hillary was a horrible candidate and her liberal ideology has failed, and now needs to assign blame. Part of the reason that the alt left has gone into hysterics about Russia in particular is that Hillary tried and failed to restore relations with Russia. Who can forget her "reset" disaster?

So they are panicked. President Trump is moving ahead with a great head of steam with his plans to undo much of the damage and great harm caused by the Obama administration and the disastrous tenure of Hillary as SOS.

For example - Hillary on Muammar Gaddafi, in Libya - "We came, we saw, he died".

https://www.google.com/search?q=Hillary+on+Muanmar+Gaddaffi+Libya+-+%22We+came%2C+we+saw%2C+he+died%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=Hillary+on+Muammar+Gaddafi+Libya+-+%22We+came,+we+saw,+he+died%22

I thought the idea was to quit interfering? Yet their legacy is that we are on the brink of WW III, the entire ME is in turmoil, and everything they touched (or droned) blew up in their faces. Whats the last time Obama spoke glowingly about his Arab Spring revolution, rather than wondering how to sneak in more unwanted Muslim refugees, or trying to figure out who to bomb in Syria while dodging MIGs.

What they are screaming about Trump, are really the things they know that they themselves are guilty of. Especially when the shady international dealings of the Clinton Foundation are considered, in respect to Russia and Qatar and everything else.

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/14/2016 6:23:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		If the idea was to quit interfering, why is anyone concerned about a christian whatever going to be killed by some muslim premier, why do we care about north korea, china, why are we funding afghanistan, syria, and so on? That money comes from nutsuckers who steal it from the citizenry.

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/14/2016 6:55:34 AM   
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You're aware that's a Russian source and so probably not entirely unbiased?


American propaganda, or Russian propaganda, two heads of the same coin. Difference is, I know enough to view a wide array of sources with a skeptical eye while you weeping Hillary snowflakes blindly goosestep in lockstep to the beat of George Soros' NWO drum.

"Hate whites?" "I'm all in!" "Aren't racists terrible?" "The worst!!!" "Against sexists? HELL yes!!!" "Mind if I enslave women?" "What - you think I'm an Islamaphobe? Go right ahead." "Glad we are on the same page, now put on some of that good "Beat your ho" rap music Hillary was playing live on her campaign stage, and lets party down."

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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/14/2016 7:03:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Talk about your basic nutsucker retards, Geo Soros; NWO drum?

What will the NWO be like in the hallucinatory nutsucker world, and how will it differ from the OWO in your hallucinatory nutsucker world?
What is gained and lost in each?

Dont goosestep or lockstep or rattle off jingos and slogans, fill us in on the hallucinatory details.



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RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to hel... - 12/14/2016 7:39:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		So partisan sources having a partisan bias only matters if it's a partisan bias that doesn't match your own partisan bias.
Thought so.

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