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Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-why?


The Russians are blackmailing the GOP
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Nobody knew, the blackmail comes later
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Putin loves the GOP but would never blackmail anyone
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The GOP were always Russians in disguise
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I'm stupid and think the GOP emails were too innocent to matter
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Russia and USA are friends now, stop being mean
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Hillary had it coming, LEAVE TRUMP ALONE
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Mere mortals must not behold sacred GOP texts
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Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-why? - 12/12/2016 3:11:10 AM   
heavyblinker


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Status: offline 		Since people were completely missing the point in the other thread, I figured we need another one to make things clearer.

Here's the story:

1. The CIA has uncovered evidence that the Russians used independent agents to hack BOTH the RNC and the DNC.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/12/10/report-russian-hackers-had-rnc-data-but-didn-t-release-it.html

2. The Homeland Security Chief (a Republican) earlier admitted that this was the case, but quickly changed his statement... this story was lost amongst all of Trump's bullshit, but here it is:

www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/09/14/russians-have-hacked-rnc-too-texas-congressman-says/90380324/

3. The Russians chose NOT to release the RNC hacks and only released the DNC/Hillary ones through Wikileaks, etc.

So why do you think the Russians chose to release only the DNC hacks and not the RNC ones? What are the Russians planning to do with the RNC hacks?

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 3:32:04 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Since people were completely missing the point in the other thread, I figured we need another one to make things clearer.

Here's the story:

1. The CIA has uncovered evidence that the Russians used independent agents to hack BOTH the RNC and the DNC.

2. The Homeland Security Chief (a Republican) earlier admitted that this was the case, but quickly changed his statement... this story was lost amongst all of Trump's bullshit, but here it is:

www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/09/14/russians-have-hacked-rnc-too-texas-congressman-says/90380324/

3. The Russians chose NOT to release the RNC hacks and only released the DNC/Hillary ones through Wikileaks, etc.

So why do you think the Russians chose to release only the DNC hacks and not the RNC ones? What are the Russians planning to do with the RNC hacks?

So someone on the Republican side thinks they may have been hacked, that clearly makes it a fact .

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 3:43:33 AM   
heavyblinker


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Status: offline 		You seriously voted for 'leave Trump alone'??

You know that's pretty much one of those classic double-standard 'I'm a moron who can't see past my partisan allegiance' options, right?
I guess you don't care if the RNC info is going to be useful to the Russians and just care about your war on liberals.

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 3:45:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD

So someone on the Republican side thinks they may have been hacked, that clearly makes it a fact .

who knew McCain and Graham were just "someone" LOL

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-russia-hackers-republicans-229572

ST. LOUIS — Donald Trump still won’t acknowledge that Russia is trying to mess with the U.S. presidential election. But he’s pretty much the only Republican who hasn’t gotten the memo.

From Capitol Hill to the intelligence community and across a wide spectrum of policy and political experts surveyed by POLITICO, the GOP has no problem accepting the Obama administration’s assertion that Russian President Vladimir Putin’s government ordered up the hacks into various U.S. political organizations, including the Democratic National Committee.

And while Obama’s high-stakes accusation raises diplomatic questions for the U.S. and its former Cold War adversary, it’s also demonstrated Trump to be a GOP outlier.

Indeed, Trump’s stance runs far counter to what many Republicans in the know actually know.

“It certainly was the worst-kept secret when it comes to the intelligence community,” Mike Rogers, the former Michigan GOP congressman who chaired the House Intelligence Committee, said of the Russian hacks.
The Republican nominee initially shrugged off suspected Russian ties to the hacks last month during his first debate with Hillary Clinton, stating the cyberespionage could have been the work of China or even “somebody sitting on their bed, that weighs 400 pounds.” And on Sunday, after Clinton suggested the Russian hacks were designed to help the Republican win the White House, Trump countered, “She doesn't know if it's the Russians doing the hacking. Maybe there is no hacking.”

But back on the ranch, a chorus of Republican voices who have handled sensitive intelligence issues see the hacks — brought home again Monday with the WikiLeaks release of thousands of emails from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta — as unquestionably of Russian origin.

“It’s no surprise” to hear Russia is targeting political organizations, said California GOP Rep. Devin Nunes, chairman of House Intelligence Committee. His Senate counterpart, Richard Burr, issued a brief statement deferring to the latest findings of the Obama administration.

“I believe it sufficiently covers what we believe to be the case at this time,” the North Carolina Republican said.

Many of the Republicans interviewed in the days leading up to and in the wake of Friday’s announcement — made via news release from Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson and director of national intelligence James Clapper — said they had long ago made the Russian connection, despite what Trump has said on the matter.

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 3:46:28 AM   
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So someone on the Republican side thinks they may have been hacked, that clearly makes it a fact .


The CIA said the RNC was hacked.
PAY ATTENTION.

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 3:50:42 AM   
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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 3:56:10 AM   
heavyblinker


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Status: offline 		Hey look, I guess Trump is just going to pick Putin's best friend for Secretary of State and support Russia's invasion of Crimea and follow their lead in Syria and basically do everything possible to make Putin happy... and it has nothing to do with the fact that he hacked the RNC emails, knows their dirty secrets and helped them win the election.

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 4:42:27 AM   
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A unnamed source was reported to have said the RNC was hacked, both the FBI and the RNC deny that the RNC was hacked.

You obviously missed Priebus yesterday on NBC.

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 4:46:25 AM   
heavyblinker


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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A unnamed source was reported to have said the RNC was hacked, both the FBI and the RNC deny that the RNC was hacked.

You obviously missed Priebus yesterday on NBC.


An unnamed source in the CIA.

And I really can't imagine Priebus being forthcoming about a hack considering what it would mean for the party... do you think they're anxious to make everyone think the Russians helped Trump win?

And Comey's FBI doesn't strike me as reliable in this matter, even despite the whole Hillary email bombshell a few days before the election. I've been reading about this issue and they take a completely different approach-- they don't look at the evidence, they look at whether or not they can prove it in court.

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 4:49:49 AM   
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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 12:54:26 PM   
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he is buying

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 1:41:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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A unnamed source was reported to have said the RNC was hacked, both the FBI and the RNC deny that the RNC was hacked.

You obviously missed Priebus yesterday on NBC.


An unnamed source in the CIA.

And I really can't imagine Priebus being forthcoming about a hack considering what it would mean for the party... do you think they're anxious to make everyone think the Russians helped Trump win?

And Comey's FBI doesn't strike me as reliable in this matter, even despite the whole Hillary email bombshell a few days before the election. I've been reading about this issue and they take a completely different approach-- they don't look at the evidence, they look at whether or not they can prove it in court.




(CNN)Republican National Committee communications director Sean Spicer said Saturday reports that the RNC was hacked by the Russians are not true and cast doubt on the Intelligence community assessments of Russia's attempts to influence US elections.
"If (US Intelligence communities are) so certain it happened, why won't they go on the record and say it," Spicer told CNN's Michael Smerconish in a heated conversation. "I don't understand it. It doesn't make any sense."

Spicer's comments came the morning after President-elect Donald Trump's transition team issued a stunning rebuke of Intelligence communities who have said, in recent reports from CNN and the Washington Post, that Russian hackers not only wanted to disrupt US elections but actively worked toward getting the Republican presidential nominee elected.
RELATED: Donald Trump takes aim at US intelligence community on Russia

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 2:13:11 PM   
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There's nothing I detest more (in the realm of politics/journalism) than a source that won't go on the record. They're cowardly pieces of barely human waste.

No one ... Not one mother's child can honestly look the American people in the face and say: "The Russians hacked the she-cunt's shit in order to get Trump elected".

There's conjecture. There's "un-named sources". There's "leaks". There's supposition. There's not one sliver of evidence that's been presented.

Wasn't it not that long ago that "Wikileaks" was the supposed hackers? That's what the she-cunt's people were floating for a little while. When that didn't work, they switched to a convenient "devil". Why wasn't it ISIS that did the hacking? They've proven themselves to be very technologically proficient. Why wasn't that possibility discussed? Could there be an element or elements that want(s) us to assume a more antagonistic stance to Russia?

Nah. The Dumbocrats are blameless, here.

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1) It's Obummer's fault
2) Elections have consequences



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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 2:30:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


There's nothing I detest more (in the realm of politics/journalism) than a source that won't go on the record. They're cowardly pieces of barely human waste.

No one ... Not one mother's child can honestly look the American people in the face and say: "The Russians hacked the she-cunt's shit in order to get Trump elected".

There's conjecture. There's "un-named sources". There's "leaks". There's supposition. There's not one sliver of evidence that's been presented.

Wasn't it not that long ago that "Wikileaks" was the supposed hackers? That's what the she-cunt's people were floating for a little while. When that didn't work, they switched to a convenient "devil". Why wasn't it ISIS that did the hacking? They've proven themselves to be very technologically proficient. Why wasn't that possibility discussed? Could there be an element or elements that want(s) us to assume a more antagonistic stance to Russia?

Nah. The Dumbocrats are blameless, here.

Two last points:

1) It's Obummer's fault
2) Elections have consequences



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werent the felchgobblers and he-cunts of the nutsucker circlefelch coven that were floating that Hillarys server was hacked?

No, nutsuckers are not blameless, they are going in for a grand felch with their commie boyfriend.
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/215-press-releases-2016/1423-joint-dhs-odni-election-security-statement

And that is Oct 7 this year. 17 agencies.

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/intelligence-community/members-of-the-ic

So, if you are an ignorant nutsucker, it is because you want to be.

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 2:58:30 PM   
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Unlike the DNC, and the Clinton's, the RNC have been cooperating with the FBI from day 1. The only evidence they found about an RNC hack was an account from a former RNC employee who hasn't worked there for years and whose account had been inactive for years.

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 3:14:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Since people were completely missing the point in the other thread, I figured we need another one to make things clearer.

Here's the story:

1. The CIA has uncovered evidence that the Russians used independent agents to hack BOTH the RNC and the DNC.

2. The Homeland Security Chief (a Republican) earlier admitted that this was the case, but quickly changed his statement... this story was lost amongst all of Trump's bullshit, but here it is:

www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/09/14/russians-have-hacked-rnc-too-texas-congressman-says/90380324/

3. The Russians chose NOT to release the RNC hacks and only released the DNC/Hillary ones through Wikileaks, etc.

So why do you think the Russians chose to release only the DNC hacks and not the RNC ones? What are the Russians planning to do with the RNC hacks?

So someone on the Republican side thinks they may have been hacked, that clearly makes it a fact .

No. The CIA has intel. That's why.

Not someone's opinion.

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 3:16:10 PM   
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Unlike the DNC, and the Clinton's, the RNC have been cooperating with the FBI from day 1. The only evidence they found about an RNC hack was an account from a former RNC employee who hasn't worked there for years and whose account had been inactive for years.

The CIA been briefing you for a while now, have they?

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/12/2016 3:39:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

Unlike the DNC, and the Clinton's, the RNC have been cooperating with the FBI from day 1. The only evidence they found about an RNC hack was an account from a former RNC employee who hasn't worked there for years and whose account had been inactive for years.

The CIA been briefing you for a while now, have they?

Yes, and his girlfriend is Morgan Fairchild.

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/22/2016 1:30:59 PM   
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Blackmail is a common Kremlin strategy.

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RE: Russia hacks both parties, only releases DNC hacks-... - 12/22/2016 6:31:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Since people were completely missing the point in the other thread, I figured we need another one to make things clearer.

Here's the story:

1. The CIA has uncovered evidence that the Russians used independent agents to hack BOTH the RNC and the DNC.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/12/10/report-russian-hackers-had-rnc-data-but-didn-t-release-it.html

2. The Homeland Security Chief (a Republican) earlier admitted that this was the case, but quickly changed his statement... this story was lost amongst all of Trump's bullshit, but here it is:

www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/09/14/russians-have-hacked-rnc-too-texas-congressman-says/90380324/

3. The Russians chose NOT to release the RNC hacks and only released the DNC/Hillary ones through Wikileaks, etc.

So why do you think the Russians chose to release only the DNC hacks and not the RNC ones? What are the Russians planning to do with the RNC hacks?

They attacked both but the RNC ad better Defenses. Everyone knows tis but before I came into this thread but I was hoping that you would at least have the honesty to give that option. Maybe the people in the RNC weren't stupid enough to fall for a blatant fishing scheme. Maybe the weren't stupid enough to send emails about dirty tricks, and it is real sure the RNC wasn't fixing the primaries to help Trump.
This is pure an simple a "have you quit betting you wife" poll.

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