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Musicmystery -> Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 10:56:05 AM)

'Bye bye America': Duterte threatens US troops pact

Philippines' leader threatens to terminate a deal that allows American troops into country after US scraps aid package.

He said the Philippines can do without US aid, called Americans "sons of bitches" and "hypocrites," while praising China for offering what he said was huge financial assistance.

A US government aid agency said this week that its board deferred a vote on a renewal of the development assistance package for the Philippines "subject to a further review of concerns around rule of law and civil liberties".

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/bye-america-duterte-threatens-pact-aid-161217040226819.html




tamaka -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 10:57:40 AM)

As I've been saying all along... China, China, China




Musicmystery -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 11:01:34 AM)

Say goodbye to the South China Sea!

He's not even President yet, and he's already fucking up the world.




MrRodgers -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 11:22:49 AM)

Seems China has found themselves a Philippine fascist they can deal with.




BoscoX -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 11:26:43 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Say goodbye to the South China Sea!

He's not even President yet, and he's already fucking up the world.


Sure. Whatever Barack and the alt left can't blame on Bush, must be Trump's fault.

The alt left meltdown continues... ! [sm=runaway.gif]

Philippines: Duterte Calls Obama 'Son of a Whore' Again - Breitbart
www.breitbart.com/.../philippines-duterte-calls-obama-son-whore-goodbye-america/
Oct 20, 2016 - In the process of saying “goodbye” to America, Duterte once again referred to President Barack Obama as a “son of a whore,” according to the ...
Philippines' President tells Obama to 'go to hell' - CNN.com
www.cnn.com/2016/10/04/asia/philippines-duterte-us-breakup/
Oct 4, 2016 - Philippines' President says he'll 'break up' with US, tells Obama 'go to hell' ... Manila, Philippines (CNN)Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte's vitriol against the United States took another caustic turn Tuesday, when he threatened to "break up" with the US and said President ...
Trump reportedly invites Philippines leader who insulted Obama for ...
Politico (blog)-Dec 2, 2016
Despite a long alliance between the U.S. and Philippines, Duterte has leveled harsh attacks at President Obama — at one point calling him a ...
Duterte on 'right way,' Trump says
International-The Standard-Dec 3, 2016




heavyblinker -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 11:34:29 AM)

So basically China and Russia, in their attempt to become the world's next superpowers, are buying off a ruthless murderer who has killed thousands over drugs.

Duterte will change his tune when Trump takes power-- they seem to have a lot in common.




Musicmystery -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 11:37:17 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Seems China has found themselves a Philippine fascist they can deal with.

And a reason to revisit military action against Taiwan, and a Pacific trade agreement without the US.

Delicately balanced things come tumbling down when they are no longer handled delicately.

Pushing around China is easy to say, but not going to happen. See--China is actually big!





BoscoX -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 11:47:43 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

So basically China and Russia, in their attempt to become the world's next superpowers, are buying off a ruthless murderer who has killed thousands over drugs.

Duterte will change his tune when Trump takes power-- they seem to have a lot in common.


Well, thats a different insane alt left narrative than the one the mindless little piss ant who posted the OP is pushing. According to him, Donald J. Trump has been the president for a while now, and has pushed Duterte toward China.

DAMN this has been a fun month of watching the alt left meltdown!




heavyblinker -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 11:55:25 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Well, thats a different insane alt left narrative


Oh right, so Russia and China don't care about power. I guess that's why they haven't abandoned the dollar at all, and Duterte hasn't been murdering people left and right because of his drug war.




BoscoX -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 12:02:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Well, thats a different insane alt left narrative


Oh right, so Russia and China don't care about power. I guess that's why they haven't abandoned the dollar at all, and Duterte hasn't been murdering people left and right because of his drug war.


I am having a really difficult time deciding which of you snowflakes is the most insane, but you are right up there. Did I write that "Russia and China don't care about power" or about anything else you were raging about in that post? No. Have you been skipping your meds or something?




Real0ne -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 12:02:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

'Bye bye America': Duterte threatens US troops pact

Philippines' leader threatens to terminate a deal that allows American troops into country after US scraps aid package.

He said the Philippines can do without US aid, called Americans "sons of bitches" and "hypocrites," while praising China for offering what he said was huge financial assistance.

A US government aid agency said this week that its board deferred a vote on a renewal of the development assistance package for the Philippines "subject to a further review of concerns around rule of law and civil liberties".

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/bye-america-duterte-threatens-pact-aid-161217040226819.html



already? where have you been the last 15 years?

this was deliberate, NAFTA Sat and others.

outsource everything and pretend we can pay the bills, americans are victims of political treason






BoscoX -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 12:09:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

'Bye bye America': Duterte threatens US troops pact

Philippines' leader threatens to terminate a deal that allows American troops into country after US scraps aid package.

He said the Philippines can do without US aid, called Americans "sons of bitches" and "hypocrites," while praising China for offering what he said was huge financial assistance.

A US government aid agency said this week that its board deferred a vote on a renewal of the development assistance package for the Philippines "subject to a further review of concerns around rule of law and civil liberties".

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/bye-america-duterte-threatens-pact-aid-161217040226819.html



already? where have you been the last 15 years?

this was deliberate, NAFTA Sat and others.





All of the problems the media has been ignoring over the last 7 11/12 years are about to come raging back into the headlines. For example, guess what? We have a homeless problem again.

"People are desperate out there"

ST. LOUIS (AP) -- The nation's homeless are proving to be especially susceptible to a new, dirt-cheap version of synthetic marijuana, which leaves users glassy-eyed, aimless, sprawled on streets and sidewalks oblivious to their surroundings or wandering into traffic.

Nearly 300 homeless people became ill last month in St. Louis due to the man-made hallucinogen that experts believe is far more dangerous and unpredictable than the real thing. Other outbreaks have occurred in New York City, Los Angeles and Austin, Texas.

"It was common for us to see reactions where they were violent, incoherent, sometimes catatonic on the ground," Austin police Lt. Kurt Thomas said.

The homeless are easy targets in a confined area, experts say. The drug is cheap - as little as $1 or $2 for a joint - more difficult to detect in drug tests and is a fast escape from a harsh reality.

Things got so bad in St. Louis last month that the region's largest provider of homeless services urged people to stop giving the homeless handouts, because they were worried the money would be used to buy the drug.

The Rev. Larry Rice saw the odd behaviors from several homeless people in the streets outside his New Life Evangelistic Center shelter in downtown St. Louis.

"They told me, 'You get so low, you get such a sense of hopelessness. Somebody wants to sell this for a dollar and you take it,'" Rice said. "People are desperate out there."




Musicmystery -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 1:35:28 PM)

Remember when folks were gasping "Sanders? Socialism!"

Those same people now want to be Soviets.

What a bunch of nut-jobs.




BoscoX -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 1:50:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Those same people now want to be Soviets.



[sm=runaway.gif]

SOMEONE is a nutjob... [:D]




tamaka -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 1:51:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Say goodbye to the South China Sea!

He's not even President yet, and he's already fucking up the world.


Yes... eveything is Trump's fault. China wasn't doing anything until he got elected... i've been predicting this China problem for a few years now... and i'm not that smart.




heavyblinker -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 1:58:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
I am having a really difficult time deciding which of you snowflakes is the most insane, but you are right up there. Did I write that "Russia and China don't care about power" or about anything else you were raging about in that post? No. Have you been skipping your meds or something?


You said I was insane for suggesting as much, so I figured you thought I was way off the mark with that one... but of course calling people insane alt-left special snowflakes is pretty much the full extent of your reasoning capabilities so I probably shouldn't have expected it to actually mean anything.




Lucylastic -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 2:18:46 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Say goodbye to the South China Sea!

He's not even President yet, and he's already fucking up the world.


Yes... eveything is Trump's fault. China wasn't doing anything until he got elected... i've been predicting this China problem for a few years now... and i'm not that smart.


China and the US govment have been discussing cybercrime and security for a while....

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/06/15/second-us-china-cybercrime-and-related-issues-high-level-joint-dialogue#

Today, (june 15th 2016)
Chinese State Councilor and Minister of Ministry of Public Security Guo Shengkun co-chaired the second U.S.-China Cybercrime and Related Issues High Level Joint Dialogue with representatives of the U.S. Departments of Justice and Homeland Security. The dialogue aims to implement the consensus reached between Chinese President Xi Jinping and U.S. President Barack Obama in September 2015 during President Xi’s visit to the United States, and to enhance pragmatic bilateral cooperation with regard to cybercrime, network protection and other related issues.

Since the first dialogue, both sides have worked to implement the consensus reached between the two countries’ presidents and the outcomes of the first dialogue. Both sides continue to develop cooperation on combating cybercrime and network protection investigations and information exchanges, aiming to conduct routine exchanges and improve cyber security cooperation.

The third was reported by the DHS again 9 days ago.....

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/12/08/third-us-china-high-level-joint-dialogue-cybercrime-and-related-issues

On December 7, 2016, in Washington, D.C., Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch and Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, together with Chinese State Councilor and Minister of the Ministry of Public Security Guo Shengkun, co-chaired the third U.S.-China High-Level Joint Dialogue on Cybercrime and Related Issues. The dialogue aims to review the timeliness and quality of responses to requests for information and assistance with respect to cybercrime or other malicious cyber activities, and to enhance pragmatic bilateral cooperation with regard to cybercrime, network protection and other related issues. Both sides endorse the establishment of the Dialogue mechanism as beneficial to bilateral communication and enhanced cooperation, and believe that further solidifying, developing, and maintaining the Dialogue mechanism and continuing to strengthen bilateral cooperation in cybersecurity is beneficial to mutual interests.

The outcomes of the third dialogue are listed as below:

1. Combatting Cybercrime and Cyber-Enabled Crime. Both sides re-commit to cooperate on the investigation of cyber crimes and malicious cyber activities emanating from China or the United States and to refrain from cyber-enabled theft of intellectual property with the intent of providing competitive advantages to companies or commercial sectors. To that end, both sides:

Plan to continue the mechanism of the “Status Report on U.S./China Cybercrime Cases” to evaluate the effectiveness of case cooperation.
Affirm that both sides intend to focus cooperation on hacking and cyber-enabled fraud cases, share cybercrime-related leads and information with each other in a timely manner, and determine priority cases for continued law enforcement cooperation. Both sides intend to continue cooperation on cases involving online distribution of child pornography. Both sides seek to expand cyber-enabled crime cooperation to counter Darkweb marketplaces’ illicit sale of synthetic drugs and firearms.
Seek to provide concrete and timely updates on cases brought within the ambit of the Dialogue.
Exchanged views on existing channels of multilateral cooperation, and intend to continue exchanges regarding this topic.
2. Network Protection. Both sides acknowledged the network protection seminar held in August 2016 in China, and believe that enhancing network protection is beneficial to both sides. Both sides suggest holding regular network protection working-level meetings, either remotely or in-person, the next of which should be planned for 2017. Both sides seek to promote the protection of our respective networks through multiple methods. To that end, both sides:

Plan to enhance network hygiene by promoting the cleaning and patching of malware infections in our respective networks and promoting best network protection practices.
Propose to engage in regular reciprocal sharing of malicious IP addresses, malware samples, analytic products, and other network protection information, and to develop standard operating procedures to guide network protection cooperation.
Seek to assess the effectiveness of information shared and provide substantive feedback to each side regarding the utility of that information.
Plan to provide Principals with regular summaries of network protection cooperation.
Intend to continue discussion on future cooperation concerning cybersecurity of critical infrastructure, and to provide timely assistance on cybersecurity incidents impacting critical infrastructure.
Intend to hold, as early as possible in 2017, a U.S.-China government and technology company roundtable to discuss cybersecurity issues of mutual concern.
3. Misuse of Technology and Communications to Facilitate Violent Terrorist Activities. Both sides acknowledged the seminar on misuse of technology and communications to facilitate violent acts of terrorism held in November 2016 in China, and decided to continue cooperation on information sharing in countering the use of the Internet for terrorist and other criminal purposes. Both sides will consider holding a second seminar in 2017.

4. Hotline Mechanism. Both sides welcomed the launch of the U.S.-China Cybercrime and Related Issues Hotline Mechanism, and decided to continue to use the hotline in accordance with the Work Plan. Both sides will conduct routine review of the use of the hotline.

5. Dialogue Continuity. Both sides recommend that the Dialogue continue to be held each year, and that the fourth Dialogue occur in 2017.

That you discount russia as a problem shows that you aint smart at all.




Musicmystery -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 3:03:20 PM)

Well the Trump-suckers think China is as nuts as all our security agencies and the FBI and GOP leadership.

Not much you're gonna do against that amount of Kool-Aid.




Lucylastic -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 3:14:50 PM)

It seem strange that after all these years that a "commie" is now a good thing to the numbnuts.




mnottertail -> RE: Power already shifts to China (12/17/2016 3:25:57 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Say goodbye to the South China Sea!

He's not even President yet, and he's already fucking up the world.


Yes... eveything is Trump's fault. China wasn't doing anything until he got elected... i've been predicting this China problem for a few years now... and i'm not that smart.


Yeah, I am pretty sure they listened to trump talk his worthless factless shit, and checked his picks for the cabinet, and said the time to push this stupid pussy is now.




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