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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 6:17:39 AM   
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So just out of curiosity, Nookie -- at what point would you agree criticizing a president is appropriate?

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 7:13:33 AM   
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...or is the president always right, no matter what?

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 7:14:55 AM   
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I liked this guys reasons for not supporting the PE.....

The people chose Hillary Clinton. But it’s the electoral vote that counts, not the popular vote, so Donald Trump will be president. And no, I’m not over it.

No one should be over it. No one should pretend that Trump will be a normal president. No one should forget the bigotry and racism of his campaign, the naked appeals to white grievance, the stigmatizing of Mexicans and Muslims. No one should forget the jaw-dropping ignorance he showed about government policy both foreign and domestic. No one should forget the vile misogyny. No one should forget the mendacity, the vulgarity, the ugliness, the insanity. None of this should ever be normalized in our politics.

The big protests that have followed Trump’s election should be no surprise. You can’t spend all those months trashing our nation’s values and then expect everyone to join you in a group hug. Trump made the bed in which he now must lie.

If a normal Republican had been elected, I could say the polite and socially acceptable thing, something like “I didn’t support So-and-So, but he will be my president, too, and I wish him success.” But I cannot wish Trump success in rounding up and deporting millions of people or banning Muslims from entering the country or reinstituting torture as an instrument of U.S. policy. In these and other divisive, cruel, unwise initiatives, I wish him failure.

I do hope he succeeds in avoiding some kind of amateurish foreign policy blunder that puts American lives or vital national interests at risk. And let me be clear that I am not questioning his legitimacy as president. When the results are certified and the electoral college casts its votes, Trump will be the nation’s duly chosen leader, ridiculous though that may be.

But he has not earned our trust or hope. Rather, he has earned the demonstrations that have erupted in cities across the country. He has earned relentless scrutiny by journalists, whom he shamelessly made into scapegoats during the campaign, and he has earned the constant vigilance of the public he now must serve.

We must watch Trump, and judge him, every single inch of the way.

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 8:12:05 AM   
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Yeah, and the sour grapes thing is bullshit -- we'd have had to watch Hilary every step too. It was a crappy choice that America bought into.

That doesn't mean we all go to sleep now.

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 4:11:18 PM   
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...or is the president always right, no matter what?


Chill....I'm working on the answer....killer question!

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 4:17:36 PM   
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So just out of curiosity, Nookie -- at what point would you agree criticizing a president is appropriate?


Now THAT (among many, which were...previously...at best....superfluous)....is an AWESOME question and....the best answer is....

I haven't a fucking clue.

Of course....your question is circular.

It's one of those "when did you stop beating your wife" questions.....there's no (possible) correct answer.

"I haven't".

"I never did".

It's a can't win....but...I do understand the premise of your question....

And so...."at what point would you agree criticizing a president is appropriate?"

Hmmmm.....

I'd say...the answer is...."never" (and maybe....."always") but I'd add....at some point....some latitude is required because.....beating someone up who is giving their best.....for you.....is a whole lot of wasted effort.....and NO ONE gains by waking up every day looking for a fight.

(Looking for a win, however....is a winning game.....every time).





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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 4:20:06 PM   
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...or is the president always right, no matter what?


No.

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 4:31:11 PM   
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I haven't a fucking clue.

No argument there.

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 4:34:19 PM   
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I haven't a fucking clue.

No argument there.


Stop it!

We all have opinions.....(mine of course....are prescient).

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 5:03:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

...or is the president always right, no matter what?


Chill....I'm working on the answer....killer question!

Easy answer , no way.

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 5:25:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
quote:

ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix
quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

...or is the president always right, no matter what?


Chill....I'm working on the answer....killer question!

Easy answer , no way.

Finally: something everyone in P&R can agree on.

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 5:31:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
quote:

ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix
quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

...or is the president always right, no matter what?


Chill....I'm working on the answer....killer question!

Easy answer , no way.

Finally: something everyone in P&R can agree on.

I disagree.

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 5:38:46 PM   
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LOL!

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 5:52:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
quote:

ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix
quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

...or is the president always right, no matter what?


Chill....I'm working on the answer....killer question!

Easy answer , no way.

Finally: something everyone in P&R can agree on.

I disagree.

That would be, "Exit...stage left" if you're old enough to remember.

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 6:00:22 PM   
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Well....then......read on......

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 6:07:49 PM   
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MOVE.......FORWARD.


I think people *are* moving forward ... towards getting rid of him as fast as they can before he buggers up your country. That's democracy, I'm afraid.


I recall alt left radicals dumbfounded by similar conservative attitudes toward Obama's election. The worse thing imaginable (RACIST!) was wanting to make him a one term president

Morons still don't get it, even as the shoe is on the other foot now. It wasn't about race, was what he would do while in office

STILL all they know (sometimes) is the race card...

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 6:44:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
quote:

ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix
quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

...or is the president always right, no matter what?


Chill....I'm working on the answer....killer question!

Easy answer , no way.

Finally: something everyone in P&R can agree on.

It's a start.

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/21/2016 8:58:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


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ORIGINAL: dcnovice


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix
quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

...or is the president always right, no matter what?


Chill....I'm working on the answer....killer question!

Easy answer , no way.

Finally: something everyone in P&R can agree on.

I disagree.

That would be, "Exit...stage left" if you're old enough to remember.


Snagulpuss.

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/22/2016 6:16:17 AM   
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I appreciate you considering the question.

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RE: Dumb fucks.... - 12/24/2016 5:35:20 PM   
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I appreciate you considering the question.


Maybe I didn't give the best answer but....of course....

All these pricks that have a preconceived answer "Jane....you IGNORANT SLUT!!!!"....only encourage people who can't think.

Anyway....

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