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BoscoX -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/19/2016 7:23:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 Wow declaring War against Russia big time! Personally, I am excited for dumb Islamic terrorists to declare stronger war against China or Russia. As at least those countries won't have weak responses. China is going on a mass cracking down spree of all the Uighurs Muslims, because of their continuous terrorism against the Chinese. The game has changed. No more tortured explanations about how Muslim terrorists aren't Muslims, or any of this religion of peace blah blah blah bullshit. Straight talk without much of a filter, will feel like a desperately needed breath of fresh air.

AtUrCervix -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/19/2016 7:53:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX Shot dead in Turkey quote: Russia's ambassador to Turkey was shot dead by a gunman Monday during the opening of an art exhibit in the capital of Ankara – a shooting believed to be tied to radical Islamists, according to reports. Andrey Karlov was shot while delivering a speech at the event, CNN Türk reported. There you go, pour some gunpowder on it, that should help things. On the other hand though, one can only stop madmen (Islamists) by either killing them, or by submitting en masse to their bloodthirsty ideology. I've already seen "informed people" explain how Russia did this.

Greta75 -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/19/2016 7:53:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX The game has changed. No more tortured explanations about how Muslim terrorists aren't Muslims, or any of this religion of peace blah blah blah bullshit. Straight talk without much of a filter, will feel like a desperately needed breath of fresh air. I don't think it was Obama strategy, but somehow, his choice to stay out of it as much as possible, has caused Terrorists to Target Europe, and now Russia, and eventually go full on China. It has brought the war to everybody else. Which in a way forces everybody else to take it seriously and eventually have no choice but to get involved. Everyone was just initially like, this is just US problem. Seriously the most memorable biggest "FUCK U" in the face this year to Europe, was when one of the terrorists went up to the Chief of Police of France home and slaughtered his wife infront of him before he killed him, and their 3 yr old kid witness both their killing. This was all intentional. Now I'd like to see them attempt that in Russia or China. And the kind of response they would get. The thing is, within our region, we are constantly foiling terrorists attack, our neighbouring countries work very closely together, and have no political correctness towards Muslims terrorism, they share information and just arrest the crap out of all of them, no matter which of our countries they are hiding in. We been just arresting and jailing them constantly. One thing about Malaysia, is, the government desperately wants to improve their economy. So they while they want to reinstall Hudud law, which is like saudi style sharia law, but they have zero tolerance towards unlawful killings by Muslim terrorists. Like anything that disrupt public peace. Bombs and stuffs. That affects Muslims too obviously since they are a Muslim country. And we had Muslim terrorists that escape to their country, and Malaysia would apprehend them and return them back to us for our courts to deal with the guy. Malaysia will not provide safe haven for them. But stupid countries like Pakistan and some parts of Indonesia, and middle eastern countries are providing safe havens for them.

AtUrCervix -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/19/2016 7:55:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer I can't find anything in your link that says that this gunman was an Islamist terrorist versus, say, a man whose family and/or friends were killed by Russian bombers, Bosco. I'm thinking where he ran off with "Allah Akbar"......could have been a clue.

AtUrCervix -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/19/2016 7:57:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX I didn't write that the assassin was a terrorist anywhere, just that he was an Islamist. Did you watch the video? What was he screaming in the video. Hint - it's the first two words in the title of the thread. Lemme just think here for a second (I could be crazy).....he yelled "ALLAH AKBAR" right after he shot the dude.....could be just me but....I'm thinking that's a bit of a give away. (Call me crazy).

Greta75 -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/19/2016 8:00:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix I've already seen "informed people" explain how Russia did this. You mean Russia killed their own guy? I feel like, in a world where, you got to choose which villains to be friends with. Western world just decided, Russia is the greater villain than Islam.

Greta75 -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/19/2016 8:01:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix Lemme just think here for a second (I could be crazy).....he yelled "ALLAH AKBAR" right after he shot the dude.....could be just me but....I'm thinking that's a bit of a give away. (Call me crazy). By killing in the name of God, MAKES HIM officially a terrorist! Yes while people use Allah Akbar for other things in in the name God. But Killing in the name of God, to me, equals terrorism. If a Christian says, "God is Great" and goes gun down alot of people in a mass shooting spree, I am calling that Christian a terrorist too.

AtUrCervix -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/19/2016 8:26:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix I've already seen "informed people" explain how Russia did this. You mean Russia killed their own guy? Uhhhhmmmm......no. I feel like, in a world where, you got to choose which villains to be friends with. Western world just decided, Russia is the greater villain than Islam. Uhhhhmmmm......no.

Edwird -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/19/2016 8:33:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji New studies are showing that people who hear voices in their head most often have a difficult time being relevant to discussions around them. https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/a-to-z/h/hearing-voices In a moment of indiscretion, inadvertent self description comes to the fore.

Edwird -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/19/2016 8:58:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX Shot dead in Turkey quote: Russia's ambassador to Turkey was shot dead by a gunman Monday during the opening of an art exhibit in the capital of Ankara – a shooting believed to be tied to radical Islamists, according to reports. Andrey Karlov was shot while delivering a speech at the event, CNN Türk reported. There you go, pour some gunpowder on it, that should help things. On the other hand though, one can only stop madmen (Islamists) by either killing them, or by submitting en masse to their bloodthirsty ideology. Right. So why has Russia been backing every terrorist group in the ME for decades when against the West, only 'dealing' with them when against Russian expansion? Get thee to a history book, boy.

Edwird -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/19/2016 9:35:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix I've already seen "informed people" explain how Russia did this. You mean Russia killed their own guy? Uhhhhmmmm......no. I feel like, in a world where, you got to choose which villains to be friends with. Western world just decided, Russia is the greater villain than Islam. Uhhhhmmmm......no. Russia and the US have given material support to terrorism as suited the occasion, please quit being stupid.

PeonForHer -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/20/2016 12:11:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer I can't find anything in your link that says that this gunman was an Islamist terrorist versus, say, a man whose family and/or friends were killed by Russian bombers, Bosco. I'm thinking where he ran off with "Allah Akbar"......could have been a clue. Already answered at length.

PeonForHer -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/20/2016 12:16:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ManOeuvre quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer 'Allahu Akbar' isn't a phrase used only by terrorists, or even more generally by Islamists. It's commonly used by Muslims in all sorts of circumstances: That's cute, Peon though I think people can be forgiven for imputing one of the more reactionary interpretations to the phrase if it's hollered within 5 minutes of murdering someone. Does 5 minutes sound like an acceptable cutoff? Jesus. Do people even read posts here any more?

DesideriScuri -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/20/2016 4:19:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer 'Allahu Akbar' isn't a phrase used only by terrorists, or even more generally by Islamists. It's commonly used by Muslims in all sorts of circumstances: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Muslims-repeat-the-phrase-allahu-akbar-God-is-great-in-many-contexts-from-weddings-to-battle-jubilation-to-shock-and-tragedy (Excerpt) "- I am muslim when I am in a car and it slids or I get scared I say Allahu Akbar When I take an exam and I thought I was about to fail but I ace it. I say Allahu Akbar. When I wake up in the morning , I say Allahu Akbar When I wanted something and my parents or friends buy it for me without asking I say Allahu Akbar When It is eid ( the muslim holiday) I say Allahu Akbar many times Contrary to the command misconception: allahu Akbar is not a terrorist cry of war. It literally means god is greater. In Islam we have something called dhikr we are told it is a good deed to constantly keep your tounge wet with the rememberance of God. You can say the common phrase Allahu Akbar when you are scared, worried or distressed. It just means God is greater. Greater than what you ask? Everything. Greater than our current problem, greater than our fear, greater than everything. It is sort of a praise. A muslim is meant to say God;s name before EVERYTHING they do. If it is not outloud it is in their head. Before we eat we say Bismillah. when we sneeze we say Alhamdulilah. It is also believed that when you die with Allah name on your tounge is a great thing. That is why muslims on their death will recite praise for god. for the fighter you are refering to they may say Allahu Akbar because they fear the will get shot, something will happen, so they want to die with the last word on their tongues to be God's name and their declaration of his greatness. by saying Allahu Akbar, it is a psychology like affirmations for muslims. It remind them that God is greater than their fears or fear of death, their desire, greater than everything. . it gives them strength and prevents them from sidetracking from whatever their goals are in life" Great post, PFH!

Musicmystery -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/20/2016 6:41:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: ManOeuvre quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer 'Allahu Akbar' isn't a phrase used only by terrorists, or even more generally by Islamists. It's commonly used by Muslims in all sorts of circumstances: That's cute, Peon though I think people can be forgiven for imputing one of the more reactionary interpretations to the phrase if it's hollered within 5 minutes of murdering someone. Does 5 minutes sound like an acceptable cutoff? Jesus. Do people even read posts here any more? Rhetorical, right?

ManOeuvre -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/21/2016 10:34:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX Shot dead in Turkey quote: Russia's ambassador to Turkey was shot dead by a gunman Monday during the opening of an art exhibit in the capital of Ankara – a shooting believed to be tied to radical Islamists, according to reports. Andrey Karlov was shot while delivering a speech at the event, CNN Türk reported. There you go, pour some gunpowder on it, that should help things. On the other hand though, one can only stop madmen (Islamists) by either killing them, or by submitting en masse to their bloodthirsty ideology. Right. So why has Russia been backing every terrorist group in the ME for decades when against the West, only 'dealing' with them when against Russian expansion? Get thee to a history book, boy. You know, Edwird, that if you use such terms as every, always, or never, you leave yourself very little room to manoeuvre.

Musicmystery -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/22/2016 6:07:54 AM)
Unless he's accurate. It happens. Which one has Russia not backed?

AtUrCervix -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/24/2016 5:37:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird quote: ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix I've already seen "informed people" explain how Russia did this. You mean Russia killed their own guy? Uhhhhmmmm......no. I feel like, in a world where, you got to choose which villains to be friends with. Western world just decided, Russia is the greater villain than Islam. Uhhhhmmmm......no. Russia and the US have given material support to terrorism as suited the occasion, please quit being stupid. Well...I'm fairly confident I'm not being stupid but....I've been accused of worse.

ManOeuvre -> RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Russian Ambassador Assassinated (12/25/2016 4:40:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Unless he's accurate. It happens. Which one has Russia not backed? Well, the Taliban for one, though that may stretch some folks' definition of terrorist outfit. There are a few others that spring to mind right away, but I suppose we'd have to agree on the precise boundaries of the middle east itself before bringing those in. I'm thinking the Pakistani Taliban affiliates (at various times), Chechen rebels, etc.

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