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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/21/2016 12:36:40 PM   
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In America the nutsuckers come for the citizens, and I speak up, because I am a citizen.

The question is, how many citizens do you think you are mental patient?

Question is: is a submissive felchgobbling nutsucker retard like yourself a citizen? I think that it has been decided at the SCOTUS that you are not able to reap all the benefits of citizenry, that due to your imbecility there are certain privileges you may not accrue, regardless of the cretinism you believe, or the numerous voices of felchgobblers in your pathetic little jizz squirted head. An empty cavern there, you can see up into the cranial vault were your brain should be when you open your pathetic cretinous fuckhole.

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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/21/2016 12:47:04 PM   
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Yes, thank you. Peon is an educated man. He'll know where it's from.


Thank you Nanji.

But I think the roles are reversed in this case. Governments - the State - are the 'they' in the 'they came for ...' The people they're come for are the Muslims - any Muslims, not just Islamists.

A couple of ideas pop up immediately. Perhaps more later.

In the olden days, things like this generally were settled by great armies whacking off the heads of the opposing culture. In fact now, the extremists say their Caliphate should include all of the land "Muslems" (not Arabs, not the Ottoman Empire) used to rule. Which would include a large part of Europe. However, now, one of those cultures has decided it no longer wishes to settle this sort of dispute by whacking heads while the other culture is still bound by its 7th century ideology. What is that 21st century culture to do while the 7th century culture is whacking heads, burning people alive and generally trying to destroy anything that doesn't pertain to a 7th century worldview?

The purpose of a government is to protect its people. If that 21st century government must protect its people against head whacking people, how should it be done? I suspect that moving a large mass of 7th century thinkers to live in the midst of established 21st century culture and assuming that the 7th century thinkers will eventually learn to put away tribal thinking and join the civilization that everything in their culture abhors isn't going to work. I know lefties all think it's our fault for the empire. But, regardless of fault now, is it incombant on the 21st century government to just allow a few head whackings among its population while the lefty learning curve is ongoing? Or is some sort of direct defense reasonable? My first thought is that if assimilation is going to work, assimilating small groups at a time and screening those groups to try and exclude obvious head whackers is reasonable. That is not what is happening and it is entirely reasonable for the 21st century tribe to look askance at the situation.

The second thought is regarding the government-the state- coming for Moslems not just Islamists. Had I been in...let's make up a citation...a Christian church and Dillon Ruff had attended and began to speak about going to...say...a black church and killing people to start a race war, I doubt I'd have taken him seriously and reported him to the police or the FBI. After he did just what he was preaching and I realized he was serious, would I be guilty of not reporting him to the state? Would I have earned guilt by allowing it to happen? No, in each case. No, because that sort of thing is such a one off thing in this 21st culture you couldn't imagine it actually being serious.

Yet, the islamisist phenominom is not a one off thing. It is not a local geographical thing. It is an international redundant phenominom. In other words, when "these" people say they are going to do such a thing, why don't we believe them? Then, if we believe them what is the state's responsibility and what is the responsibility of...let's say...the Imam of the institution in which this Dillon Ruff sort of guy discussed his intent? Or what is the responsibility of the congregation of the institution that had an Imam preaching this sort of thing?

At some point, when that 7th century culture, or portions thereof, is found to be serious about head whacking it become incumbent on people and the state to take some steps to eliminate the head whacking while the lefty assimilation transpires. So, you tell me, what, then, is the responsibility of the state and the fellow members of the congregation in this case. It seems to me that your response is "nothing". That it will all work out in the end. While that is what it seems to me, I'm really asking your solution.



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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/21/2016 1:42:38 PM   
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Yes, thank you. Peon is an educated man. He'll know where it's from.


Thank you Nanji.

But I think the roles are reversed in this case. Governments - the State - are the 'they' in the 'they came for ...' The people they're come for are the Muslims - any Muslims, not just Islamists.

Here is an article with some more small points.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/germany-facing-ticking-time-bomb-rage/


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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/21/2016 2:33:16 PM   
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Yes, thank you. Peon is an educated man. He'll know where it's from.


Thank you Nanji.

But I think the roles are reversed in this case. Governments - the State - are the 'they' in the 'they came for ...' The people they're come for are the Muslims - any Muslims, not just Islamists.

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A couple of ideas pop up immediately. Perhaps more later.


The world awaits with bated breath.

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In the olden days, things like this generally were settled by great armies whacking off the heads of the opposing culture.


In the far olden days, maybe. In more recent and current days, it is more often 'settled' by "How's it going, Ed?" "Not bad. How 'bout you, Adel?" "All good. Did you see the Hornets game last night? (NBA basketball team).

For guys, just talk sports. Nothing, I mean nothing gets foreign guys tripping over themselves to speak English like talking sports. But in any case Adel and 20-30 others from the ME I've come across at work or at the uni don't give the impression at all that they are just waiting to kill somebody. Not in any way, shape, or form.

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However, now, one of those cultures has dentury ideology. What is that 21st century culture to do while the 7th century culture is whacking heads, burning people alive and generally trying to destroy anything that doesn't pertain to a 7th century worldview?


Well hey, we just elected a guy who wants to take everything as backwards as possible, so just give it 4-8 years, we might be close to 7th century ourselves. It's just freaky cool how Trump strategy is going about it with the Muslim folks, isn't it?


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The purpose of a government is to protect its people.


Which is why Trump has so thoughtfully chosen a cabinet and an administrative staff of people with long records of sustained and unremittingly hostile and mostly successful efforts -against the people- as their prior day job, to fill these important positions. Taking the Reagan tack on how to protect the corporations.

Oh wait! I meant 'protect the people,' sorry.

I mean, what better way to demonstrate intention to 'protect the people' than to appoint a guy who screams loudly and often about having to pay overtime to already underpaid workers in his slave market fast food chain as Secretary of Labor?

Boy, if this isn't a "git'er done!" administration, I don't know what is. Stomp them people!



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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/21/2016 4:39:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Apologies if this has already been pointed out several times, but there have been more terrorist killings carried out in the US by white conservative extremists than by Muslims since 2002.

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html

Maybe it's time to have all the white conservative males register themselves, just in case we need to round the whole lot of them up and put them in camps? Just till we "figure out what's going on here", of course.

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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/21/2016 5:05:53 PM   
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Apologies if this has already been pointed out several times, but there have been more terrorist killings carried out in the US by white conservative extremists than by Muslims since 2002.

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html

Maybe it's time to have all the white conservative males register themselves, just in case we need to round the whole lot of them up and put them in camps? Just till we "figure out what's going on here", of course.

Lol, gotta give it to that article, it is one small step above the National Enquirer. I'll bet it scared your little pants off didn't it?

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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/21/2016 5:17:09 PM   
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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/21/2016 5:54:09 PM   
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Apologies if this has already been pointed out several times, but there have been more terrorist killings carried out in the US by white conservative extremists than by Muslims since 2002.

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html

Maybe it's time to have all the white conservative males register themselves, just in case we need to round the whole lot of them up and put them in camps? Just till we "figure out what's going on here", of course.


Newsweek - total fake news. WTF is the matter with you, why couldn't you look at your alt left fake news article and tell what jumps off of the page at you screaming FAKE NEWS. Your deranged author starts his "statistics" in 2002 and ends them in February of 2016 claiming that Muslim terrorists slaughtered 45 Americans, while the "right-wing extremists" allegedly "struck 18 times, leaving 48 dead."

Need a fucking clue, Einstein? Why would he start the numbers in 2002...

9/11/2001. WTF happened on that date. OH YEAH, Muslim terrorists slaughtered 2,996 innocents on that day, men women and children. Kinda leaving his 45 and 48 numbers showing how twisted and bent he is as a "journalist"

Then he ends in the first part of 2016, just prior to the Orlando shooting, in which Islamists doubled the number claimed for "right wing extremists" in another single incident.

Which, I have yet to see what cases he is referring to, regarding "right wing extremists" bs and propaganda

On top of that your boy Kurt Eichenwald has also recently revealed himself to be a fool and a rabid far left psycho LOON

Falsely claimed that President Trump spent time in a mental hospital

Filed charges against a twitter user for causing him epileptic seizures with a tweet

Apart from his rabid bias and insanity, and cooking the numbers, he conveniently left out eco terrorists and other left wing extremists didn't he

Total hit piece, and typical of the alt left fake news industry

Then there's the matter of how many Muslims are here in the US, compared to "right wing conservatives" that you are wetting your panties about.



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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/21/2016 6:19:03 PM   
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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/21/2016 7:29:40 PM   
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But...but...it was scary Boscox.


How can Newsweek continue to employ someone as deranged as Eichenwald? Because he pushes the false alt left narratives, and they like that. He could work at any of the alt left fake news outlets, New York Times, CNN, PBS, just name it.

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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/22/2016 7:28:18 AM   
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Yes, thank you. Peon is an educated man. He'll know where it's from.


Thank you Nanji.

But I think the roles are reversed in this case. Governments - the State - are the 'they' in the 'they came for ...' The people they're come for are the Muslims - any Muslims, not just Islamists.

Here is an article with some more small points.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/germany-facing-ticking-time-bomb-rage/




Good article, but it seems to argue against correcting the false narrative that the alt left establishment pushes regarding the "religion of peace." Even denies to some extent that the Islamic ideology itself is to blame for the violence, instead tries to blame unemployment etc.

ETA, this comment underneath the article makes a few good points:

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"Ed West's annoying,apologetic exegesis is so ridden with political correctness, I almost gagged.
Grow a pair Ed, unless you prefer the unisex latrines now in vogue with the intelligentsia. Muslims are the problem. Or call them refugees if you're too timid to speak English.
Make no mistake West, sociopaths like merkel, obama/clinton, England's litany of pajama boys, are as much the problem as jihadis. It's not "if" the clash of civilizations" will cause the next Bataclan, Beslan, Berlin or Orlando massacres. Its when."




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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/22/2016 10:52:09 AM   
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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/23/2016 2:40:28 AM   
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Oh Great, they capture him dead again! I am sick of all the terrorist attack this year, them catching the perpetrator dead! They need to catch these guys alive and interrogate the crap out of them!

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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/23/2016 3:23:38 AM   
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but hes dead...all terrorists should be.

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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/23/2016 4:12:54 AM   
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if they wanted him alive they shouldnt have shot him.
but hes dead...all terrorists should be.

But the problem is, they keep capturing them dead, so they get no answers! They need to find out if these guys are working alone, or who is their network. And also find out their reason for doing this. Otherwise, it's all just endless speculation. Just like the Orlando shoot out! All speculation why he did it.

I hope this is one of those operations where they were captured alive, interrogated and then killed. They only told the news that they were shot dead.

Because I know this is what usually happens.

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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/23/2016 4:30:37 AM   
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but I hear he was on the no fly list in the US so thats a good thing, because under rules the NRA love to use, he would be able to get hold of a weapon or four and do more damage than he did with a truck.

Im glad he is dead....
But I just heard

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/libya-plane-diverted-to-malta-in-potential-hijack-with-118-aboard/2016/12/23/8a60d8ee-19fe-41b9-af63-9e6d527934c4_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_malta-640am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.b5b31a01b8e4
Hijackers divert Libyan plane to Malta with 118 aboard
An apparent standoff was playing out on the tarmac after hijackers threatened to blow up the plane, local media reported. The Maltese prime minister said the domestic Libyan flight had been diverted mid-air to the small Mediterranean island.


What I find interesting is not who to blame, but how to handle what is coming.
Considering its less than a month to inauguration day
And how hair trump is going to react before then.

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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/23/2016 6:21:00 AM   
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Oh Great, they capture him dead again! I am sick of all the terrorist attack this year, them catching the perpetrator dead! They need to catch these guys alive and interrogate the crap out of them!


They would have what, asked him nicely to please answer their nice questions

No real loss probably

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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/23/2016 6:25:44 AM   
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What I find interesting is not who to blame, but how to handle what is coming.
Considering its less than a month to inauguration day
And how hair trump is going to react before then.


As if Trump is president, and has been president for these past eight years

As if Muslims commit terrorist acts because of who we elect

They do these things for Allah, and have been doing these things starting with Muhammad and they won't stop so long as they can study their Quran and learn what it orders them to do

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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/23/2016 6:28:09 AM   
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That's an impressive collection of straw men.


You should know, straw man arguments are your main crutch

But you don't

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RE: 'Allahu Akbar' - Terrorist Attack In Germanistan - 12/23/2016 7:01:27 AM   
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They would have what, asked him nicely to please answer their nice questions

No real loss probably

No, torture him for information! We don't know if this dude is a lone wolf or he got a whole network. I mean, I know ISIS claim credit for it. BUT all the more..., he should be captured alive for interrogation!
But as I said, if it's anything like normal procedure. He probably was, and then killed later, hopefully, since things in his case are fudgy.

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