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ThatDizzyChick -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/20/2016 8:20:07 PM)

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It's not even the case of forming a perception of why you did what you did all the time. Most of the time we merely do something, and then observe ourselves doing that thing, giving it no further thought whatsoever. There's not really a reason behind it. No actual choices were made. No rationalization was given to it afterwards.

This really resonated with me. Many times, not just recently, when I do ask why I did something, I find I really have no idea. I often can come up with a rationale, but when I think about that rationale, it almost always rings hollow, it is an ex-post-facto rationale. When I delve deeper, i realize that i have no fucking clue why I did whatever it was I did, I just did it. Now, like I said this is something I have noticed for a long time, and I just accepted it as one more oddity of being Dizzy.

However, recently I have been thinking on it further, digging into it more (breastfeeding is wonderfully conducive to some really deep thinking) and I have found that often I can indeed figure out why I did what I did. I either can get a glimpse of something hidden that lay beneath the decision to act that way (this is the scary shit thing I mentioned in the earlier post, and a lot of the time I just don't have the guts to delve deeper, though I do sort of file the insight away for the future, to look at when I have more courage. A tendency to deliberate self-destruction is a scary thing to analyze). And other times, the majority, I can see the reasons, not any conscious thing, but I can figure out the experiences and assumptions that led to the automatic act. And this is the exact opposite of the scary shit, this is exhilarating and liberating.

Now this really surprised me, because I have always thought of myself as a really analytical person. When I left the Catholic church, I did not do so on a whim, when I felt it was not speaking to my situation or my pain (yeah, my Mom again, I told you that fucked me right up), rather than just turn away from it, I delved deeper into it. I studied it's dogma and theology, looking for a deeper insight to why I felt so very spiritually empty. And I found no answers, all i found was lies. So then I left the church. And then I embarked on a long journey of religious study and exploration that lasted well into my 20s, until I finally came to the conclusions and interpretation of God, etc. that did speak to my pain and my spiritual turmoil. (sorry for the long digression)

So it really surprised me that there was so much of my life that I had not subjected to analysis, not just afterwards, but even during or before, it surprised the hell out of me just how much of my life was just on instinct and not at all rational.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/20/2016 8:23:44 PM)

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I know Ullrsishtar gets it... i am so thankful she is here.

Yeah she gets a lot of things. And I too am thankful she is here, though likely for different reasons than you. I always read her posts carefully. She has taught me a lot already, and has helped me do a lot of growing as person, and I am a better person for it. And I am going to stop there before I start sounding really creepy.




Wayward5oul -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/20/2016 8:33:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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I know Ullrsishtar gets it... i am so thankful she is here.

Yeah she gets a lot of things. And I too am thankful she is here, though likely for different reasons than you. I always read her posts carefully. She has taught me a lot already, and has helped me do a lot of growing as person, and I am a better person for it. And I am going to stop there before I start sounding really creepy.

LOL A few weeks back I made the comment to her that I always learned something from her posts because they were always so well-thought out, relevant, insightful, etc. She commented that she would never had said that about herself because her posts are usually so long and wordy. I just said that there is a difference between long, wordy posts that you skim through because they are a waste of time, and long posts that show real thought and experience, and always seemed on point regarding what was being discussed, and gave me new ways to think about things. She thought that was funny.

There are just some people whom you enjoy reading their contributions. She is one of those.

Then of course, there are MANY others whom you do not enjoy reading, but they sure as hell enjoy posting...




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/20/2016 8:46:01 PM)

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There are just some people whom you enjoy reading their contributions. She is one of those.

Then of course, there are MANY others whom you do not enjoy reading, but they sure as hell enjoy posting...

i don't even want to think about which category I fall into. [;)]




Wayward5oul -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/20/2016 8:47:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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There are just some people whom you enjoy reading their contributions. She is one of those.

Then of course, there are MANY others whom you do not enjoy reading, but they sure as hell enjoy posting...

i don't even want to think about which category I fall into. [;)]

I think you also have to factor in how much wine the poster and the reader have imbibed. [;)]




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/20/2016 8:50:46 PM)

Wine...mmmmmmm wine....
I fucking miss booze. A pox on breastfeeding!




Wayward5oul -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/20/2016 8:52:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Wine...mmmmmmm wine....
I fucking miss booze. A pox on breastfeeding!

I just discovered red wine hot chocolate...sounds nasty but it is heavenly...




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/21/2016 5:03:19 AM)

Oh go die in a fire!!




MariaB -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/24/2016 1:00:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Oh go die in a fire!!


Darn, you just made me spit my wine [:D]


Happy Christmas everyone.




Wayward5oul -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/24/2016 1:02:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Oh go die in a fire!!

LOL Just saw this. Guess I was too busy with the drink to catch it that night....mmmmmm......




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/24/2016 2:36:38 PM)

Actually I got drunk last night for the first time in like nearly 2 years. It was not as much fun as I recall it being.




tamaka -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/24/2016 2:41:39 PM)

Weed is sooooooo much better.




Wayward5oul -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/24/2016 3:16:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Actually I got drunk last night for the first time in like nearly 2 years. It was not as much fun as I recall it being.

LOL the older you get the less its worth it. But you don't have to get drunk to appreciate the effects.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/24/2016 6:38:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

Weed is sooooooo much better.

i always liked booze better. i did not, and still do not, miss weed during my enforced abstinence as much as i did (and do) miss booze. However, I am seriously considering remaining abstinent, it has been something of an eye opener after so many years of indulgence




tamaka -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/24/2016 7:19:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

Weed is sooooooo much better.

i always liked booze better. i did not, and still do not, miss weed during my enforced abstinence as much as i did (and do) miss booze. However, I am seriously considering remaining abstinent, it has been something of an eye opener after so many years of indulgence


I've never really enjoyed alcohol. I never really could gain any appreciation for the taste.




Wayward5oul -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/24/2016 7:30:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

Weed is sooooooo much better.

i always liked booze better. i did not, and still do not, miss weed during my enforced abstinence as much as i did (and do) miss booze. However, I am seriously considering remaining abstinent, it has been something of an eye opener after so many years of indulgence

Agreed. Plus there is the whole drug-testing thing with jobs.




tamaka -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/24/2016 7:46:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

Weed is sooooooo much better.

i always liked booze better. i did not, and still do not, miss weed during my enforced abstinence as much as i did (and do) miss booze. However, I am seriously considering remaining abstinent, it has been something of an eye opener after so many years of indulgence

Agreed. Plus there is the whole drug-testing thing with jobs.


It's crazy... you can teach in a school or work in healthcare and never be drug- tested. But you can't work at a store without getting tested. Anyways.. i don't really indulge very often but maybe once or twice a month i'll smoke a little. It's legal here now so... yey!




Wayward5oul -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/24/2016 7:50:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

Weed is sooooooo much better.

i always liked booze better. i did not, and still do not, miss weed during my enforced abstinence as much as i did (and do) miss booze. However, I am seriously considering remaining abstinent, it has been something of an eye opener after so many years of indulgence

Agreed. Plus there is the whole drug-testing thing with jobs.


It's crazy... you can teach in a school or work in healthcare and never be drug- tested. But you can't work at a store without getting tested. Anyways.. i don't really indulge very often but maybe once or twice a month i'll smoke a little. It's legal here now so... yey!


Not quite true. I'm in education, been part of random drug testing.




Taramafor -> RE: How does it feel to need? (12/24/2016 9:05:39 PM)

Few things.

I'm poly because multiple needs. Of myself and others. I'll not get too into that.

But needs in general? Hmm... One can try to fulfill needs but not be good at it. Would you say trying alone is enough or does the need itself need to be met?

If the former then trying is enough I guess. If the later then it's a simple case of having someone able to meet that need with you, if other company is needed for that. At the same time there's only one of everyone and I need to know someone would at least consider trying with me. In my case everyone I know and get to know. Because I try to do shit for others.

Also I'm speaking as someone that once was emotionless. Basically I shut down due to feeling harmful by merely existing. When someone was there for me anyway I knew that what I needed most was for someone to be there for me at my worst as well as my best. And this is someone that put me at the worst in a way to boot (loooong story). Maybe that information helps you somehow, considering how the OP was worded.

And there's no such thing as overthinking. As long as you can keep those thoughts in order. Things can get very confusing when one thinks out of order and doesn't even have any answers at all. I found mine in time. You probably will too.




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