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Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime gold... - 12/21/2016 6:38:42 PM   
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First Grandma Marian Robinson, 79, will receive a lifetime 160K government pension when she leaves the White House next year, according to congressional budget statements.
According to documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), Mrs. Robinson earned the lifetime pension for “services rendered as full-time/in-home caregiver” for granddaughters Malia, 18, and Sasha, 15, during President Obama’s two terms in office.

http://www.usatwentyfour.com/michelle-obamas-mom-will-get-160k-life-paid-taxes/

Tell me this is one of those 'fake news' items we keep hearing about.

Please. Even USia can't be this retarded.

Can it?



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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/21/2016 7:03:35 PM   
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http://www.factcheck.org/2016/11/no-first-grandma-pension/

http://www.snopes.com/marian-robinson-pension/

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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/21/2016 7:17:10 PM   
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You said 'snopes'

Which kinda throws doubt on your other cite too.

Neither of them points to any compelling evidence that this particular story is indeed fake. A bit of doubt perhaps but no more than exists for many lamestream media stories.



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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/21/2016 7:43:11 PM   
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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/21/2016 7:48:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Curmudgeonly1

Bahaha

You said 'snopes'

Which kinda throws doubt on your other cite too.

Neither of them points to any compelling evidence that this particular story is indeed fake. A bit of doubt perhaps but no more than exists for many lamestream media stories.



Factcheck does

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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/21/2016 10:39:35 PM   
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First Grandma Marian Robinson, 79, will receive a lifetime 160K government pension when she leaves the White House next year, according to congressional budget statements.
According to documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), Mrs. Robinson earned the lifetime pension for “services rendered as full-time/in-home caregiver” for granddaughters Malia, 18, and Sasha, 15, during President Obama’s two terms in office.

http://www.usatwentyfour.com/michelle-obamas-mom-will-get-160k-life-paid-taxes/

Tell me this is one of those 'fake news' items we keep hearing about.

Please. Even USia can't be this retarded.

Can it?



first link is bullshit, and yes, it is NOT true, you can claim snopes is wrong, when you cant back up your link with FACTS
in fact your lack of awareness of anything factual is disturbingly obvious with all the posts you started lately...
No..USIANs arent that stupid, only those people who believe such bullcrap without checking their claims are.
So whats your excuse?



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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/21/2016 11:19:18 PM   
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first link is bullshit, and yes, it is NOT true, you can claim snopes is wrong, when you cant back up your link with FACTS
in fact your lack of awareness of anything factual is disturbingly obvious with all the posts you started lately...
No..USIANs arent that stupid, only those people who believe such bullcrap without checking their claims are.
So whats your excuse?

Stupidity? Kevin has never shown himself to be much of a thinker.

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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/21/2016 11:22:51 PM   
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thats being kind:)


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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/22/2016 2:22:15 AM   
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Are you trying to convince stiphie that you're a dome?



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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/22/2016 2:29:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Curmudgeonly1

Bahaha

You said 'snopes'

Which kinda throws doubt on your other cite too.

Neither of them points to any compelling evidence that this particular story is indeed fake. A bit of doubt perhaps but no more than exists for many lamestream media stories.




So sites with heaps of traffic that have been around for years are not to be trusted, yet some site called 'USAtwentyfour' that looks like it was thrown together in 2 hours and seems to exist mostly to reprint RWNJ lies and earn money through the advertising deserves everyone's respect and trust.

I've also noticed they like to keep their word count low-- probably to suit the attention spans of their readers, who I'd imagine get really upset when things take too long to read.


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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/22/2016 2:34:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Curmudgeonly1

Why turn this into another petty personal attack?

Are you trying to convince stiphie that you're a dome?



poor liddle muffin
you are out attacked
bless your heart

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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/22/2016 5:57:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't understand this continual denial of factual evidence. It just makes the insisting person look more and more stupid.

How do people figure that's "winning" anything?


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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/22/2016 6:28:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		The only thing I'm insisting on is credible evidence one way or the other.

So far no one has presented any compelling argument to convince me that either side is the right one.

The juvenile personal attacks just reinforce the suspicion that those making them are indeed the feeble morons we have all long suspected them to be.



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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/22/2016 6:44:39 AM   
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The only thing I'm insisting on is credible evidence one way or the other.


You should insist on credible evidence even when something makes you feel good about believing what you do.

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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/22/2016 6:54:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Curmudgeonly1

The only thing I'm insisting on is credible evidence one way or the other.

So far no one has presented any compelling argument to convince me that either side is the right one.

The juvenile personal attacks just reinforce the suspicion that those making them are indeed the feeble morons we have all long suspected them to be.



If you were looking for credible evidence, you would do your research first before putting up obviously fake information.
oh and you need better sources....you are failing in that a great deal.
You got more than one link from that response, why did you only focus on making a joke of snopes.
at least snopes gives direct links to its proof.
And Fact Check while post-truthers say its left leaning, they can rarely disprove their sources on facts. Ignore facts at your own peril
I know thinking is new to you, but give it a whirl eh?

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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/22/2016 7:02:17 AM   
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Several fact-checking sites have identified the Boston Tribune as the source of this story. So folks may be interested in this disclaimer at the BT site.

The Boston Tribune is a news and entertainment satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within The Boston Tribune are fictional, and presumably fake or satirical news – with the exception of our ‘list style’ articles that include relevant sources. The content published on The Boston Tribune is often intended to generate thought and discussion among its readers. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental. Advice given is NOT to be construed as professional. If you are in need of professional help, please consult a professional. The Boston Tribune is not intended for children under the age of 18.

http://thebostontribune.com/disclaimer/

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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/22/2016 7:10:22 AM   
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I don't understand this continual denial of factual evidence. It just makes the insisting person look more and more stupid.

Given the adolescent headline, the use of fake news, and the resistance to fact-checking, I don't think the OP is especially concerned with appearing--let alone being--credible.


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How do people figure that's "winning" anything?

You get you poison out into the atmosphere and bank on the credulous and/or those seeking confirmation of their prejudices to inhale it.


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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/22/2016 7:55:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Curmudgeonly1

The only thing I'm insisting on is credible evidence one way or the other.

So far no one has presented any compelling argument to convince me that either side is the right one.

The juvenile personal attacks just reinforce the suspicion that those making them are indeed the feeble morons we have all long suspected them to be.



OK how's this ? How is it that you can even begin to believe this obvious bullshit ? At no time in the history of this country has a relative living with the pres. at the white house, ever received any salary or pension.

Why aren't you asking about all of the kids and family that lived at the white house ?

This is like actually believing that Trump's kids will get a salary or pension if they take up offices in the white house.

The very conjecture that Obama's grandma is getting this pension suggests a desperate search for anything...anything that could even remotely further denigrate a man who's been denigrated since 11/08 for having the audacity of being a liberal dem elected to the white house...and have the arrogant temerity of being black.

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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/22/2016 9:08:38 AM   
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OK how's this ? How is it that you can even begin to believe this obvious bullshit ?

I think we already concluded that it's stupidity.

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RE: Seriously? Even 1st Mooch's mother gets a lifetime ... - 12/22/2016 9:10:42 AM   
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This is like actually believing that Trump's kids will get a salary or pension if they take up offices in the white house.

Maybe el presidente has set off his cult bleating about this nonsense in the hope that maybe they will if he can get people complaining about this daft story?

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