BamaD
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ORIGINAL: BamaD You, like most on the left, don't understand the difference between Islam and radical Islam. You seem to confuse wanting to recognize the threat of radical Islam with hating all Muslims most of the Muslims I personally know are good decent people, however none of them want to go on a killing spree to see how many infidels they can kill. The radicals put out "information" on the net, for example, to seduce the radical leaning, the disadvantaged, and the mentally ill into "self radicalization". If 10 to 20 % of Americans had cheered McVeigh on and called him a national hero there would be some credence to your statement. That was not the case. McVeigh was a worthless murderer, now he is a red herring. The bullshit is strong in this post. Refusing to differentiate between radical Islam and the majority of moslems is more of a rightist thing than a leftist approach, as is demonstrated by all of the hysterical ranting rightards come out with about the Koran telling all moslems to kill everybody who doesn't share their beliefs whenever there's a terrorist attack by a moslem, all moslems being potential terrorists who hate the western way of life, anybody who doesn't want to deport all of the moslems who won't convert to baptism being in favour of them imposing shariah law, etc. If you can miss all that stuff with the amount of time you spend on here, that's some heavyweight confirmation bias you got going on there. As for McVeigh, and DS' strange argument that there's no such thing as self-radicalisation, exactly who radicalised Mcveigh if he didn't radicalise himself? If there are no independently motivated terrorists, who was running McVeigh? Why can libertarian twats like McVeigh be independent operators, unaligned with the rest of their religious and cultural group, while all moslems without exception support terrorist groups like daesh and al-queda? So you believe that these people just come up with these ideas by themselves? McVeigh had outside influences, although it was his fault that he followed them. Can you really said that organized groups that constantly spew hate have no influence on these "lone wolfs" even though the "lone wolfs" follow the advice of ISIS and their ilk? Operating alone, as per ISIS guidelines, using the tactics in the attacks as per ISIS guidelines, but still you insist that they just woke up one morning decided to kill people and just happened to use the methods ISIS says to use. What you refuse to see is that once the conversation has been engaged for a while the right leaning people make the mistake of thinking that the left can remember that our words of hostility are aimed at the radicals. We also get a little sick of the left trying to leave the impression that McVeigh cancels out a couple hundred Muslim terrorists. If you actually paid attention to what I say you would know that your dismissal of what I say is grossly inaccurate. You either can't read (which I don't believe to be the case) or you decide in advance what I am going to say and respond to that rather than what I actually say.
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Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.
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