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Greta75 -> Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 3:52:27 AM)

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/23/politics/trump-putin-christmas-letter-russian-relations/

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The key words I like is "Constructive and Pragmatic".

I think that's what I will always look for in someone looking to lead any country!

I still don't understand the Putin hate.




BoscoX -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 4:47:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75
I still don't understand the Putin hate.


They are insane. "Trump bad" is mantra, and all they can see and all that they know.

It is as simple as that.

They contradict themselves over and over, and they are incapable of seeing that, incapable of thinking




Hillwilliam -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 6:01:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75
I still don't understand the Putin hate.


They are insane. "Trump bad" is mantra, and all they can see and all that they know.

It is as simple as that.

They contradict themselves over and over, and they are incapable of seeing that, incapable of thinking

Of course you're right Comrade bosco. [:D]




WickedsDesire -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 6:55:47 AM)

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accublond -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 7:21:25 AM)

So... you guys don't understand "the Putin hate" ???

Try some of these on for size:

*Seizing all the companies of Russian businessmen who don't kiss his ass... putting them in jail... and/or exiling them across the world... and becoming one of the world's richest men in the process.
*Having opposition political leaders effectively exiled and even killed in front of the Kremlin.
*Having reporters murdered in elevators in Moscow.
*Restarting the cold war and trying to restore the Soviet Union.
*Turning RT television back into a 24/7/365 anti-American propoganda tool and state mouthpiece.
*Annexing the Crimea by military force.
*Invading the Ukraine and shelling civilians there.
*Shooting down the Malaysian airliner passing over the Ukraine.
*Snubbing a U.S. President repeatedly because economic sanctions imposed by America and other nations to punish the above illegal actions are keeping hundreds of millions of Arctic oil drilling dollars and other funds out of Putin's pocket.
*Engaging in provocative and dangerous flights next to U.S. ships and planes - and risky overflights of the Baltic states.
*Using airpower in the Syrian civil war to prop up a dictator, destroy cities and wantonly slaughter civilians.
*Meddling in the U.S. Presidential election -- and feeding stolen DNC files to wikileaks to try to affect the outcome.
*And last, but not least... quickly recognizing Trump as a petulant, narcissistic man-child whom he can manipulate by flattery into ending sanctions -- and get those hundreds of millions of petrodollars into his pocket at last.

Actually... intelligent, educated, aware people in this country and around the world don't "hate" Putin... they simply recognize him as a ruthless oligarch who will stop at almost nothing to achieve his goals... and they fear with good reason that the current U.S. President-elect (along with most of his appointees and many of his supporters who ought to know better) doesn't understand any of this -- or worse, admires and may well attempt to emulate it.

Get it now?




BoscoX -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 7:33:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: accublond

Get it now?



After Obama gave billions to the Mullahs who sponsor terrorism and who attack our naval forces in the region, take our citizens hostage etc, after we are told that Iraq NEEDED and iron-fisted madman to keep savage Muslims under control, Bush was a Nazi for freeing the people there... Reagan caused 9/11 by aiding Afghanistan against the kindly benevolent Soviets who were only in Afghanistan to help...

After Obama and Hillary pushed the control of Egypt to the terror group Muslim Brotherhood, practically gifted Iraq to ISIS, killed Qaddafi for ISIS and worked to turn Syria over to them as well...

We get a lot more than you know




WickedsDesire -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 7:45:57 AM)

Fair point scoundrel in the underwear but nothing I haven't mentioned on here His motivation is lack of money btw. The more you starve these fukers the more desperate they become = escalation.




subrob1967 -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 7:49:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: accublond

Get it now?



After Obama gave billions to the Mullahs who sponsor terrorism and who attack our naval forces in the region, take our citizens hostage etc, after we are told that Iraq NEEDED and iron-fisted madman to keep savage Muslims under control, Bush was a Nazi for freeing the people there... Reagan caused 9/11 by aiding Afghanistan against the kindly benevolent Soviets who were only in Afghanistan to help...

After Obama and Hillary pushed the control of Egypt to the terror group Muslim Brotherhood, practically gifted Iraq to ISIS, killed Qaddafi for ISIS and worked to turn Syria over to them as well...

We get a lot more than you know



You failed to mention the hundreds of millions given to Iran.

What kills me are the lefties whining about Trump wanting to upgrade our nuclear arsenal, even after Putin said the same thing a couple of weeks ago. Iran with nukes = good... America with modern upgraded nukes = bad!




BoscoX -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 7:52:15 AM)

Hope and Change We Can Believe In was never advertised to be what we got, the brink of WW III

Time for the losers to exit gracefully and let the winners take control. The Dems are just a coastal party now with no national significance for a reason. The voters have spoken, time to make the world love us after eight years of blatant antagonism




Greta75 -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 8:06:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

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This is actually pretty awesome, you should send it to Putin lol.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 8:28:00 AM)

Greta75 - Hell made me laugh too:), took me ages. I thought your letter was one of these fake stories and I remain unconvinced . Do they call presidents of the USA HIS EXCELLENCY? The structure is worse than my best ever typing, shouty CAPS, and did he sign it in invisible Ink....heh perhaps he just spat on it.

That aside the mad nutter just seems to want Putin's approval for reasons that escape me.




MrRodgers -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 9:03:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: accublond

Get it now?



After Obama gave billions to the Mullahs who sponsor terrorism and who attack our naval forces in the region, take our citizens hostage etc, after we are told that Iraq NEEDED and iron-fisted madman to keep savage Muslims under control, Bush was a Nazi for freeing the people there... Reagan caused 9/11 by aiding Afghanistan against the kindly benevolent Soviets who were only in Afghanistan to help...

After Obama and Hillary pushed the control of Egypt to the terror group Muslim Brotherhood, practically gifted Iraq to ISIS, killed Qaddafi for ISIS and worked to turn Syria over to them as well...

We get a lot more than you know

What unmitigated bullshit.

The billion$ to Iran was Iranian money frozen due to sanctions that were released per the latest agreement.

The Iranian revolution that took our people hostages was as much caused by our CIA inspired and financed coup that took out their democratically elected govt.

Bush ruined Iraq disbanding the army and the entire Iraqi govt. It was that vacuum [he] created and the failure to take out al-Zarqawi in 2003 prior to his invasion...that created ISIS and created a secular civil war in Iraq.

It was Charlie Wilson and CIA operative Gust Avrakotos, whose efforts led to Operation Cyclone, a program to organize and support the Afghan mujahideen during the Soviet–Afghan War...that helped kicked out the Soviets.

It was the CIA that funded Tim Osborn (Osama Bin Laden) and thereby created what was to become what was called Aquada which in fact...never existed as anywhere near the terrorist group that the Bush neocons pushed.

There was a program that BBC aired in November of 2001 (just days before the famous incident in Tora Bora where U.S. troops had cornered Osama Bin Laden) in which news anchor Jeremy Vine produced an FBI document that revealed U.S. agents were told to "back off" from investigating the Bin Laden family. That seemed out of sorts but it became even more relevant a few days later when the Pentagon ordered American soldiers to stand down in Tora Bora even though they now had Osama bin Laden cornered.

Dalton Fury, the commander on the ground at Tora Bora, reveals the details of the Pentagon ordering him to 'stand down' in his book, Kill Bin Laden. Which brings up the obvious question: Why? If you have Bin Laden cornered, literally just feet from where our troops are dug in, just weeks after 9/11, then why order our troops to stand down?

Then there is this:

At the time, the reasons behind the order to stand down were not known to the public at large and the Bush/Cheney gang pivoted into high gear toward a costly effort to misled the America people into supporting an invasion of oil-rich Iraq. Bush/Cheney famously claimed that they knew that Saddam had WMDs and that they knew exactly where those WMD were, yet when WMDs never actually materialized there was only a slight grumbling of a 'bait and switch'. For the most part America went along for the ride and soon enough the world was tuned into their mainstream media of choice as the Bush/Cheney Gang mounted a pre-emptive strike that kicked off an unethical war that was not paid for and which eventually nudged the U.S. economy spiraling into the worse recession it had seen since the 1930s. A large reason for the faint resistance to a war that resulted in the death, displacement and injury of millions of innocent Iraqi citizens along with the death and dismemberment of thousands of U.S. troops was because Bin Laden, the mastermind behind the 9/11 attack was still at large. Americans were either afraid or pissed off and they wanted the government to do something about it.

But once the tanks started rolling into Iraq, the mastermind of the largest attack on US soil in history was no longer a concern for Bush/Cheney. In fact, at a press conference Bush43 famously came out and admitted that he didn't care about Bin Laden and wasnt interested in going after him. Such a comment sparked disbelief in some - especially soldiers in Iraq who had joined the military after 9/11 to fight in retaliation of bin Laden's brutal attack on innocent U.S. civilians. It also prompted serious questions whether Bush43's loyalty was to the American people or the corporate oil industry. Then, on top of that, reports came out about how the Bush family had deep business ties to the Bin Laden family - ties that began when Bush43 and Osama's Bin Laden's brother Salem Bin Laden founded Arbusto Energy, an oil company based in Texas. As research uncovered that a bank controlled by the Bin Laden family had bailed out one of Bush 43's failed businesses during the 1980s Bush's reasons for not going after Bin Laden came under even more scrutiny. And then eyebrows were further raised when reports came out of the ties between the Bush Family and the Bin Laden family via The Carlyle Group, a private global equity group whose senior advisor was Bush41.

The Bush family's connections to the Bin Laden family was interesting and certainly grist for conspiracy theorists, but to understand the real motive behind the Bush/Cheney gang ordering Dalton Fury's troops to stand down in Tora Bora you must go back to 1997 when a right-wing think tank called The Project for the New American Century produced a document outlining how America needed to be transformed. Members of this think tank included Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz. Several of these future members of the Bush Administration took their plans for a war in Iraq to Bill Clinton with the hopes of convincing Clinton to invade Iraq. After presenting Clinton with a fully detailed plan, Clinton refused and the wheels were set in motion for the Cheney-led cabal to groom a candidate for the White House who would promote The Project for the New American Century's agenda.

The designs that the The Project for the New American Century had in mind are clearly laid out in a report they issued titled Building America's Defences - which states "The process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor." Or a 9/11 perhaps?

Again, conspiracy theorists have since jumped on Building America's Defences report to argue that 9/11 was more than just coincidence. And in fact, Congressional investigators such as John Farmer, a Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission, has said this about the Bush/Cheney gang's involvement in the events of 9/11: "At some level of the government at some point in time...there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened." While Senator Bob Graham added that "the White House was directing the cover-up".

They needed a boogieman.

I won't even dignify your last line with a reply.




MrRodgers -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 9:09:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: accublond

Get it now?



After Obama gave billions to the Mullahs who sponsor terrorism and who attack our naval forces in the region, take our citizens hostage etc, after we are told that Iraq NEEDED and iron-fisted madman to keep savage Muslims under control, Bush was a Nazi for freeing the people there... Reagan caused 9/11 by aiding Afghanistan against the kindly benevolent Soviets who were only in Afghanistan to help...

After Obama and Hillary pushed the control of Egypt to the terror group Muslim Brotherhood, practically gifted Iraq to ISIS, killed Qaddafi for ISIS and worked to turn Syria over to them as well...

We get a lot more than you know



You failed to mention the hundreds of millions given to Iran.

What kills me are the lefties whining about Trump wanting to upgrade our nuclear arsenal, even after Putin said the same thing a couple of weeks ago. Iran with nukes = good... America with modern upgraded nukes = bad!

Billion$ to the mullahs is just that and [we] or [he] didn't do any such thing. See above.

The US is and has been on a $1 trillion upgrade program of our nukes, complete with new smalled yield warheads. Isn't that precious, given that [they] just might be 'easier' to use given the US powers behind the throne and their penchant for war ?

If anything, Obama kept us out of WWIII.




bounty44 -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 10:50:51 AM)

plagiarism is bad, even when done unintentionally but all the more so if not:

http://generation-add.blogspot.com/2012/04/why-didnt-bush-go-after-bin-laden.html




heavyblinker -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 11:17:39 AM)

I don't even want to think about those two nasty old men bringing bilateral cooperation to a qualitatively new level after Trump assumes the position.




BoscoX -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 11:31:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I don't even want to think about those two nasty old men bringing bilateral cooperation to a qualitatively new level after Trump assumes the position.


Awww

Don't go away homophobic

Just go away




heavyblinker -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 11:36:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I don't even want to think about those two nasty old men bringing bilateral cooperation to a qualitatively new level after Trump assumes the position.


Awww

Don't go away homophobic

Just go away


I'm repulsed by the individuals, not the acts.

Sort of like I'm repulsed by you, but not.... well... actually that's not a good analogy.




BoscoX -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 11:40:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I don't even want to think about those two nasty old men bringing bilateral cooperation to a qualitatively new level after Trump assumes the position.


Awww

Don't go away homophobic

Just go away


I'm repulsed by the individuals, not the acts.

Sort of like I'm repulsed by you, but not.... well... actually that's not a good analogy.


Uh huh... Yeah. Sure. That would explain why a 'liberals" favorite slam is so often, like yours, a homophobic slur of some kind




heavyblinker -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 11:52:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Uh huh... Yeah. Sure. That would explain why a 'liberals" favorite slam is so often, like yours, a homophobic slur of some kind


Just talking about two people having gay sex doesn't mean you're using a slur.
You're stupid and it's annoying.




mnottertail -> RE: Putin Bromance Letter to Trump (12/25/2016 11:54:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I don't even want to think about those two nasty old men bringing bilateral cooperation to a qualitatively new level after Trump assumes the position.


Awww

Don't go away homophobic

Just go away


I'm repulsed by the individuals, not the acts.

Sort of like I'm repulsed by you, but not.... well... actually that's not a good analogy.


Uh huh... Yeah. Sure. That would explain why a 'liberals" favorite slam is so often, like yours, a homophobic slur of some kind

You are the homophobe Tommie, self-loathing as is the rect of the circlefelch, come out of the closet with all the other felchgobblers, Wilburs back and you are back inSanity, out of the closet with you Felchgobble in the garish light of day.




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