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DesideriScuri -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/28/2016 5:33:38 AM)

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Donald Trump spent the past two years attacking rival Hillary Clinton as crooked, corrupt, and weak.
But some of those attacks seem to have already slipped into the history books.
From installing Wall Street executives in his Cabinet to avoiding news conferences, the president-elect is adopting some of the same behaviour for which he criticized Clinton during their fiery presidential campaign.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/trump-repeating-actions-he-previously-criticized-clinton-for-on-range-of-issues/article33431961/?click=sf_globefb

I'm not surprised at all. I was hoping Trump would actually be less of a politician, but I didn't really think he would. With all the back-clapping and self-congratulating the GOP has done, and is doing, Trump may still end up being very bad for the party. Maybe it'll drive the GOP back to it's roots.
I'm not going to hold my breath on that one, either.

Doesn't matter who President Trump chooses for what position, musical and his sock army will find some fringe alt left fake news site to bash the choice. If a choice has had success in life or has government experience, OMFG trump isnt draining the swamp. No experience, thats prophesied to be even worse.
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Are you saying Trump isn't doing the same thing he bashed Clinton for doing?

Yeah, I am calling bullshit. "Installing executives" isn't scandalous, isn't in any way the kind of corruption we saw with team Hillary (thanks to Wikileaks, and no thanks to the mainstream media who covered up her scandals). And "skipping news conferences"?
WTF are you people on. Hillary only went on interviews and talk shows where she was fed tee-ball questions most likely emailed in advance, if Wikileaks taught us anything. She NEVER spoke with the media in any way that wasn't strictly in a controlled setting. Even had questions fed to her ahead of time for the debates
President elect Trump meets the media head on, bare knuckles. Still does, as he finds time. Speaks without a filter and lets things fall where they may
Right now he is putting a team together to lead the nation, so you will have to excuse him if he doesn't have time right now to take Hillary's cozy spot on "The View" or on Stephanopoulos' program (Hillarys' former employee, who now works at ABC).
What planet have you been on for the last two years, certainly not this one. This is all about trying to lay Hillary's' many massive defects at President elect trumps feet, and its ludicrous. Musical starts what, ten threads a day whining and crying about Trump? And look at his sources. KOS, VOX, aljazeerra, what is this one, some globe or another.
BS up to your chin and you are doing the butterfly in it


It isn't being alleged that Trump is doing the same scandalous stuff. He railed against Clinton for being bought by Wall Street. So, what does he do? Fills his cabinets with Wall Street. He railed against her trading favors for cash, so what does he do? He gives positions to those who donated fat wads of $$.

How is that any different than what he was ripping Hillary for?

If I had to vote for one of the two, Trump would get my vote. I didn't vote for him (Gary Johnson got my vote), but I had hopes that he wouldn't fall in with the politicians. I was wrong.

And, it doesn't make Hillary any less wrong for doing what she has done (and will likely continue trying to do). Unlike some on here, I'll call BS on the right, the left, and the in-between. I'm equal-opportunity like that.




BoscoX -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/28/2016 6:57:09 AM)


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It isn't being alleged that Trump is doing the same scandalous stuff. He railed against Clinton for being bought by Wall Street. So, what does he do? Fills his cabinets with Wall Street. He railed against her trading favors for cash, so what does he do? He gives positions to those who donated fat wads of $$.

How is that any different than what he was ripping Hillary for?


Hill took hundreds of thousands for speeches to big banks. If you think the payments were for hearing that airhead wheez about wiping hard drives with a cloth or something there is little use talking with you.

Appointing someone who used to work at a bank is different. Appointing executives is different. He is using CEOs who know how to get things done. Apparently you and your friends would look in homeless tents under overpasses to staff a high power cabinet

Why does it take someone else to spell that out for you.

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If I had to vote for one of the two, Trump would get my vote. I didn't vote for him (Gary Johnson got my vote), but I had hopes that he wouldn't fall in with the politicians. I was wrong.

And, it doesn't make Hillary any less wrong for doing what she has done (and will likely continue trying to do). Unlike some on here, I'll call BS on the right, the left, and the in-between. I'm equal-opportunity like that.



You need to understand that the establishment candidate lost, George Soros is very unhappy about that, and he has a lot of very influential people in high places in the establishment media who are going to keep pushing fake news stories like the one you just fell for nonstop until they get their crony capitalist government back. A whole lot of powerful people on both sides of the aisle are getting their gravy train derailed, and there's about to be all kinds of hollering going on about what a terrible person Donald J. Trump is

And he is not perfect, no. But he isn't mealy-mouthed Jeb Romney, neither is he Hillary McSame and that's a start.




mnottertail -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/28/2016 7:29:33 AM)

Well, the nutsuckers have the death lock on pushing fake news tommie, you got washingtontimes, wnd, drudge, dailycaller, townhall, faux noize, rt, the list is endless.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/28/2016 9:57:35 AM)

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It isn't being alleged that Trump is doing the same scandalous stuff. He railed against Clinton for being bought by Wall Street. So, what does he do? Fills his cabinets with Wall Street. He railed against her trading favors for cash, so what does he do? He gives positions to those who donated fat wads of $$.
How is that any different than what he was ripping Hillary for?

Hill took hundreds of thousands for speeches to big banks. If you think the payments were for hearing that airhead wheez about wiping hard drives with a cloth or something there is little use talking with you.
Appointing someone who used to work at a bank is different. Appointing executives is different. He is using CEOs who know how to get things done. Apparently you and your friends would look in homeless tents under overpasses to staff a high power cabinet
Why does it take someone else to spell that out for you.


1. You might want to take some water to dilute the Kool Aid. I sure as fuck home I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. And, if I am wrong, I'll own up to it. You may not have been on here long enough to know I'm one that will do that.

2. I'm of the thought that Hillary was the absolute worst nominee in an election I've been old enough to vote in. Trump, imo, isn't too far from the bottom, either.

3. Go fuck yourself. You don't know me.

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If I had to vote for one of the two, Trump would get my vote. I didn't vote for him (Gary Johnson got my vote), but I had hopes that he wouldn't fall in with the politicians. I was wrong.
And, it doesn't make Hillary any less wrong for doing what she has done (and will likely continue trying to do). Unlike some on here, I'll call BS on the right, the left, and the in-between. I'm equal-opportunity like that.

You need to understand that the establishment candidate lost, George Soros is very unhappy about that, and he has a lot of very influential people in high places in the establishment media who are going to keep pushing fake news stories like the one you just fell for nonstop until they get their crony capitalist government back. A whole lot of powerful people on both sides of the aisle are getting their gravy train derailed, and there's about to be all kinds of hollering going on about what a terrible person Donald J. Trump is
And he is not perfect, no. But he isn't mealy-mouthed Jeb Romney, neither is he Hillary McSame and that's a start.


I'm quite happy that Soros is pissed. I have no problem with that.

What fake news stories are you railing about? Trump is appointing big donors to positions, isn't he? That's, pretty much, "pay to play," isn't it? Any other candidate that does the same would get the same criticism from me. An executive from Wall Street is going to protect Wall Street. I criticized Obama for having lobbyists in his cabinet (because he ran with a "get the lobbyists out of DC" plank). Damn sure I'm going to criticize President-Elect Trump for the same damn thing. Same goes for however many more Presidents I'm alive to see do it.

The "fake news story" I, appparently "fell for," is fact.

Linda McMahon tapped to head Small Business Administration

Did Trump pick Bannon, Mnuchin, and Cohn for positions in his Administration? Are all 3 Goldman-Sachs exec's?

Unfortunately, in DC, it's pay-to-play. I have a sinking feeling it will always be that way, even though I fully believe it shouldn't be.

How far can "President (or President-Elect) Trump" diverge from Candidate Trump for you to not see the two are not the same?




Lucylastic -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/28/2016 10:07:44 AM)

And that Mr DS is why you are a likable chap.




BoscoX -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/28/2016 12:04:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
3. Go fuck yourself. You don't know me.


Don't go away mad bitch




Edwird -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/28/2016 8:31:05 PM)


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Appointing someone who used to work at a bank is different.


You are best on the site at unintentional comedy, no question.

Robert Rubin, Goldman Sachs. Henry Paulson, Goldman Sachs. Stephen Friedman, Goldman Sachs. The two administrations before Obama.

It's not different, except that Trump has surpassed the record for total number of Goldman Sachs people on his team by a good margin. Five so far.

BTW, we haven't seen that 'Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton' thing from you for a few weeks now, even as you still obsess over her thong. Whut up with that?

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX Appointing executives is different.


Appointing executives is as old as the hills, where you been, boy? From McNamara and Romney Sr. (and ages before) to Rumsfeld and Cheney. Get out from under the sink, boy.

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He is using CEOs who know how to get things done.


Oh, here we go, the the worn out "Git'er done!" trope. Well yeah, the cabinet and other appointments are filled with people who made their fortunes by diverting the wealth produced by society to their own pockets, making their fortunes in a wage suppressed industry, by fighting back any pollution controls, etc.

Yeah, no question all Trump's appointments make it clear he is "for the people" as he blustered loudly all though his campaign.




tamaka -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/28/2016 8:44:01 PM)

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3. Go fuck yourself. You don't know me.


Don't go away mad bitch


She's the resident bipolar drama queen... no worries

UPDATE: He's not the resident bipolar drama queen. That's another Des something something.. lol

Carry on & pardon the interruption.






Wayward5oul -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/28/2016 8:59:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
3. Go fuck yourself. You don't know me.


Don't go away mad bitch


She's the resident bipolar drama queen... no worries


tamaka, you really need to start thinking before you type anything, and pay attention when you go bashing people. Or at least know who the fuck it is you are trashing when you go trash talk people. Desi is a he, not a she, and you owe him an apology. HE is not the same person that you were bitching about in the other thread where you were calling people disgusting and shaming them for their parenting decisions. That was an entirely different poster.

But that's not the first time that you have done that on here, is it?




tamaka -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/28/2016 9:11:17 PM)

Oh... sorry... i just got caught up in the moment!





MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/28/2016 9:13:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Appointing someone who used to work at a bank is different.


You are best on the site at unintentional comedy, no question.

Robert Rubin, Goldman Sachs. Henry Paulson, Goldman Sachs. Stephen Friedman, Goldman Sachs. The two administrations before Obama.

It's not different, except that Trump has surpassed the record for total number of Goldman Sachs people on his team by a good margin. Five so far.

BTW, we haven't seen that 'Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton' thing from you for a few weeks now, even as you still obsess over her thong. Whut up with that?

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX Appointing executives is different.


Appointing executives is as old as the hills, where you been, boy? From McNamara and Romney Sr. (and ages before) to Rumsfeld and Cheney. Get out from under the sink, boy.

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He is using CEOs who know how to get things done.


Oh, here we go, the the worn out "Git'er done!" trope. Well yeah, the cabinet and other appointments are filled with people who made their fortunes by diverting the wealth produced by society to their own pockets, making their fortunes in a wage suppressed industry, by fighting back any pollution controls, etc.

Yeah, no question all Trump's appointments make it clear he is "for the people" as he blustered loudly all though his campaign.




I will say this: The two times in US history where Republicans had control of both houses of Congress AND the White House, 2 things happened:

1) Goldman Sachs had a greater influence on the economy than they normally do (massive deregulation opened the door for them)
2) We had a major economic catastrophe


The first was the Great Depression (Anyone heard of the Shenandoah Corporation?); The second was the Great Recession: Securitized sub-prime mortgage scam




BoscoX -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/29/2016 5:45:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


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ORIGINAL: Edwird


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Appointing someone who used to work at a bank is different.


You are best on the site at unintentional comedy, no question.

Robert Rubin, Goldman Sachs. Henry Paulson, Goldman Sachs. Stephen Friedman, Goldman Sachs. The two administrations before Obama.

It's not different, except that Trump has surpassed the record for total number of Goldman Sachs people on his team by a good margin. Five so far.

BTW, we haven't seen that 'Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton' thing from you for a few weeks now, even as you still obsess over her thong. Whut up with that?

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX Appointing executives is different.


Appointing executives is as old as the hills, where you been, boy? From McNamara and Romney Sr. (and ages before) to Rumsfeld and Cheney. Get out from under the sink, boy.

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He is using CEOs who know how to get things done.


Oh, here we go, the the worn out "Git'er done!" trope. Well yeah, the cabinet and other appointments are filled with people who made their fortunes by diverting the wealth produced by society to their own pockets, making their fortunes in a wage suppressed industry, by fighting back any pollution controls, etc.

Yeah, no question all Trump's appointments make it clear he is "for the people" as he blustered loudly all though his campaign.




I will say this: The two times in US history where Republicans had control of both houses of Congress AND the White House, 2 things happened:

1) Goldman Sachs had a greater influence on the economy than they normally do (massive deregulation opened the door for them)
2) We had a major economic catastrophe


The first was the Great Depression (Anyone heard of the Shenandoah Corporation?); The second was the Great Recession: Securitized sub-prime mortgage scam


The comic book of alt left revelations

Reverend jag presiding




BoscoX -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/29/2016 6:06:05 AM)

Another bare knuckles news conference, in the news right now:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-just-answered-some-of-the-biggest-questions-swirling-around-his-administration-063300547.html?ref=gs

So you precious little snowflakes can all dry your pouty little eyes




mnottertail -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/29/2016 6:09:09 AM)

Bare knuckles? You mean empty headed. So all you felchgobblers can put your little peeners back in your pants, and quit feeding the geese.




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/29/2016 6:11:12 AM)


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The comic book of alt left revelations

Reverend jag presiding



Call it what you want. I am just stating facts.


Here is an AWESOME video of Glenn Beck addressing just a small piece of the Goldman Sachs shenanigans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KFjR4f6TZk






BoscoX -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/29/2016 8:26:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


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The comic book of alt left revelations

Reverend jag presiding



Call it what you want. I am just stating facts.


Here is an AWESOME video of Glenn Beck addressing just a small piece of the Goldman Sachs shenanigans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KFjR4f6TZk





America great again, alt left fanatics are now Glenn Beck fans.

Hey, I have some end of the world supplies to sell you, I only jacked up the prices 2000% too




DesideriScuri -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/29/2016 9:13:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
3. Go fuck yourself. You don't know me.

Don't go away mad bitch


I'm not going anywhere.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/29/2016 9:15:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
3. Go fuck yourself. You don't know me.

Don't go away mad bitch

She's the resident bipolar drama queen... no worries
UPDATE: He's not the resident bipolar drama queen. That's another Des something something.. lol
Carry on & pardon the interruption.


[:D] [:D] [:D]





MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/29/2016 10:10:37 AM)


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America great again, alt left fanatics are now Glenn Beck fans.

Hey, I have some end of the world supplies to sell you, I only jacked up the prices 2000% too



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Just like with DS (whom you know nothing about), you know nothing about me, either. (You just haven't been on here long enough). Those that know me here, know that I am the opposite of an ideologue. (So, calling me a "leftie" just amuses me.)

I am known, however for pointing out the massive corruption, and faux conservatism of the Republican party, and the damage the party has caused to the US economy and standing in the world. (Yes some Democrats are corrupt too, and in more cases inept, but they are just not as good as the Republicans at it). To be fair, there just isn't much money in being a liberal (Unless you are Jesse Jackson, and make money off of race baiting)

(e.g. It is completely inconceivable that Democrats could even come close to the Republican/Goldman Sachs scam during the Bush Administration. And, keep in mind, Democrats have been in bed with Goldman Sachs for decades. They just aren't as good at the corruption as Republicans)

Republicans in power (legislative and executive branch) + Goldman Sachs = Massive Corruption + Economic Catastrophe. We are 2 for 2 on that.

Republican sycophants have massive difficulty dealing with someone who is not a left-wing ideologue pointing out these facts, so they scream "You're a leftie!"


Regarding Glenn Beck.. he is a LOT like Rush Limbaugh in one sense....

Back when I was laid off in early '09 (Thanks Republicans and Goldman Sachs!), I listened to Rush Limbaugh daily and lots of Glenn Beck.

Both of them, if you listened to them long enough, would take a single segment (break to break) and make perfect sense. (A factual premise, and a very salient conclusion). This happened about one segment every couple weeks.


This Glenn Beck/ Goldman Sachs rant was one such segment.


If the Alt Left are becoming fans of Glenn Beck, I think they are wasting their time.






DesideriScuri -> RE: Trump repeating actions he previously criticized Clinton for on range of issues (12/30/2016 5:19:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
America great again, alt left fanatics are now Glenn Beck fans.
Hey, I have some end of the world supplies to sell you, I only jacked up the prices 2000% too

[:)] [:)] [:)]
Just like with DS (whom you know nothing about), you know nothing about me, either. (You just haven't been on here long enough). Those that know me here, know that I am the opposite of an ideologue. (So, calling me a "leftie" just amuses me.)
I am known, however for pointing out the massive corruption, and faux conservatism of the Republican party, and the damage the party has caused to the US economy and standing in the world. (Yes some Democrats are corrupt too, and in more cases inept, but they are just not as good as the Republicans at it). To be fair, there just isn't much money in being a liberal (Unless you are Jesse Jackson, and make money off of race baiting)
(e.g. It is completely inconceivable that Democrats could even come close to the Republican/Goldman Sachs scam during the Bush Administration. And, keep in mind, Democrats have been in bed with Goldman Sachs for decades. They just aren't as good at the corruption as Republicans)
Republicans in power (legislative and executive branch) + Goldman Sachs = Massive Corruption + Economic Catastrophe. We are 2 for 2 on that.
Republican sycophants have massive difficulty dealing with someone who is not a left-wing ideologue pointing out these facts, so they scream "You're a leftie!"
Regarding Glenn Beck.. he is a LOT like Rush Limbaugh in one sense....
Back when I was laid off in early '09 (Thanks Republicans and Goldman Sachs!), I listened to Rush Limbaugh daily and lots of Glenn Beck.
Both of them, if you listened to them long enough, would take a single segment (break to break) and make perfect sense. (A factual premise, and a very salient conclusion). This happened about one segment every couple weeks.
This Glenn Beck/ Goldman Sachs rant was one such segment.
If the Alt Left are becoming fans of Glenn Beck, I think they are wasting their time.


I think you're being too myopic, MJ. Just because something happened while Bush was in the WH doesn't necessarily mean the GOP was behind it, or that his Adminstration caused it. The housing meltdown had roots as far back as the early 70's.

The Great Depression was caused, in part, by the Federal Reserve (as was the Housing Meltdown). Fannie and Freddie played a part in the Housing Meltdown, too (and, then-President Bush tried to warn Congress multiple times, but the leadership would have nothing of it). Don't forget that the repeal of Glass-Steagall was signed into law by President Clinton. I'm not saying the GOP had nothing to do with the Depression or Recession, but you're focusing the blame on them isn't completely accurate.

The Federal Reserve has been behind almost all of our recessions since it's inception. It's funny money policies (and changes to those policies) create great Market skews that usually end up wreaking havoc.




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