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Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise old p... - 12/27/2016 6:24:57 PM   
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And Firefox and Chrome, etc.

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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 8:58:26 PM   
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My dad and my dear wonderful step mom either one find troubles just getting to their email every two-six months, even though I've set it up for them that all they have to do is double click on an icon on their desktop to get to their email, which is the first thing they care about.

I know myself that being automatically signed to email just when opening whatever browser of choice does not provide for best security, but your average 8 yr. old nor average 86 or 89 yr. old are used to having to enter the account name and password every freaking time for such a simple task.

I know it's not realistic to expect that going out to the street for the mail and going to email would be the same thing, but the process of going out to the street or the container outside your front door has been the same for eons, whereas with microsoft or yahoo or google or whomever, you can always count something like "here's your new and improved email account, sign up now!" -I'm already signed up, been signed up for ten years already, fuckhead!-

Eight yr. olds are all over this, 86-89 yr. olds not so much. All of us take this as a given, I don't remember what I do to to bypass it in the first place, it's so automatic. For those with experience in browsers and email and the internet, the one-three steps to say 'fuck off!' are automatic and instantaneous. Not so for 80-what yr. olds. The folks and I have Windows 8 or 10 and firefox, though likely different versions of whatever thorn up microsoft's twitchy ass to call it's browser or email as of last week, even though it might have been called the same thing for us two-six months ago.

The dad is not too much mentally deficient in the first place, as he held some relatively high position at Amoco back in the day, etc., could recite 20 or more lines from Shakespeare and a number of poets from his own head at the dinner table. (If you want to accuse me of lying, go elsewhere if you need, but don't touch that one. His power of recitation was and still is classic.)

So why then does an 89 yr. old who contributed so much to society (was a little league baseball team manager for 15 years, while he still did all the above) and helped raise eight kids (while doing all the aforementioned) now have to be 'rewarded' by having to deal with the convolutions and torment of 'smart kid!' lead brains from google or firefox or microsoft or amazon?

"We can't make up our minds about anything. It was hotmail, then 'outlook,' then 'edge,' then whatever. We take a shit, we come out of the bathroom and change everything,- but we are so smart! and we can code and monetize like crazy! Don't you just luv us!!"

"Here's your new account! Sign up now!"

Well yeah, 89 yr. old half blind people will be all over this one!

"Pardon the intrusion, but is there any way you or amazon can actually get me back to my account where I've already spent thousands so I actually order something?"

I did in fact get him into his amazon account by phone instruction and walk through, but after all the searching for his item and the 'add to cart' thing and a number of other steps, it came to a point where it said 'continue,' clicking on it went nowhere. Did nothing. (I took my dad's one remaining if that half blind eye all over the page to make sure, 8 minutes right there.)

No problem, guys. Just go and take another shit, come out and write another coding, come up with the next amazing monetization scheme, change the name of everything even tough it's just the same browser and just the same email, etc, you'll eventually trip over something that actually works for a week or so, as you always do.





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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 9:09:58 PM   
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They are starting to catch on to this Alexa thing though. : )

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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 9:26:11 PM   
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If you know an 80-something who is all hyped on Alexa, please let us know.


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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 9:30:29 PM   
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Because they aren't where the money is.

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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 9:39:54 PM   
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It 'wobbles the mind' how some are so concerned about government intrusion upon privacy, but not the least concerned that Google and Amazon have tens times more information about you even if you don't have an account with them.

And if reading of the lawyers' rendition of 'our privacy policy' on -every- site that has such 'policy,' it's actually a very lengthy explanation that you are utterly delusional if you even think that there is such an anachronistic notion as 'privacy' anymore. "We won't sell your information to third parties, but gosh almighty you have no idea how many second parties there are at this party."

"Welcome to our site!" "Once signed up to your account, we've got your first born and every other child's name and and their SS numbers and your credit score already; how can we help you today?



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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 9:45:17 PM   
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quote:

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If you know an 80-something who is all hyped on Alexa, please let us know.




I actually know a couple of them.

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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 9:51:46 PM   
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It 'wobbles the mind' how some are so concerned about government intrusion upon privacy, but not the least concerned that Google and Amazon have tens times more information about you even if you don't have an account with them.

That's true, and it is why we only surf the net connecting through an anonymous proxy and using a sandboxed browser and never use our Facebook or Google accounts to sign into anything but Facebook or Google (and sometimes YouTube). Yeah it doesn't keep your info away from them, but it sure does muddy the waters for them a bit.

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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 9:53:15 PM   
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If you know an 80-something who is all hyped on Alexa, please let us know.



Fuck, I don't even know what Alexa is.

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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 9:53:37 PM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: Edwird
If you know an 80-something who is all hyped on Alexa, please let us know.

I actually know a couple of them.


I knew I could count on you.





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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 10:08:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwird


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ORIGINAL: Edwird
If you know an 80-something who is all hyped on Alexa, please let us know.

I actually know a couple of them.


I knew I could count on you.






At your service! ; )



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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 10:11:48 PM   
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Read my revision.

"We won't sell your information to third parties, but gosh almighty you have no idea how many second parties there are at this party."

And thanks for your input, in all seriousness.



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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 10:13:54 PM   
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If you know an 80-something who is all hyped on Alexa, please let us know.



Fuck, I don't even know what Alexa is.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01DFKC2SO/ref=pd_aw_fbt_451_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=5BVRQ3T710EKZSHJJ5BV

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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 10:21:29 PM   
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Oh my. That seems like a less than secure thing.

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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 10:35:45 PM   
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It's Amazon, what do you expect?

"Give us your dad's Social Security number and you both get a 20% discount on your next purchase!"

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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/27/2016 10:54:33 PM   
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And then there's this:

All of a sudden, for no reason "Your password doesn't match with your account name." Which has worked for the last 3-5 years, no problem, until just now.

Every 89 yr. old lives for this moment.

Click on "Can't remember your password?"

"Enter your phone number or email and we will send you a code to re-set your password."

Enter the code, so now you get "please enter new password."

A person of normal mental abilities would assume that the site in question has lost your password, so you enter the password you have written down previously.

"You cannot enter a password that you have used previously."

Is it just me, or does anyone else see the problem here?



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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/28/2016 4:33:53 AM   
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It 'wobbles the mind' how some are so concerned about government intrusion upon privacy, but not the least concerned that Google and Amazon have tens times more information about you even if you don't have an account with them.

That's a whole other issue besides the attitude towards old farts, and one that warrants a separate discussion of its own. It was very funny that Apple were presenting refusing to hack a terrorist's iphone for the Feds on that level: presumably they find the idea of anybody besides themselves having a backdoor into somebody's phone unacceptable.

(As for the scrotes, Dizzy's wrong about them not being a source of income. The retirees are a steadily growing chunk of the consumer market with a lot of financial clout.)

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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/28/2016 5:45:11 AM   
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The retirees are a steadily growing chunk of the consumer market with a lot of financial clout

Not for tech gadgets they're not.

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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/28/2016 6:23:14 AM   
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You've never seen an old fart of a boomer with an iphone, then?

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RE: Why do microsoft, google, etc, absolutely despise o... - 12/28/2016 6:36:11 AM   
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Strawman.

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