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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 1:31:30 AM   
heavyblinker


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Sure... a flat tax makes more sense then what's going on now.


No it doesn't... 10% of a poor person's income could mean the difference between 3 meals a day and 2, while 10% of a wealthy person's income could mean the difference between a yacht and a bigger yacht.

I gotta say... one of the very few positives to come out of Trump's rise is that all of this 'don't hurt the poor rich people' shit has completely disappeared, and I rarely hear about a flat tax at all anymore.

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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 2:18:08 AM   
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exactly who I am and where to find me, because what could possibly go wrong?

Nationality, Gender would be a good start!
Sure I can tell you to find me in Singapore, but you probably won't be able to locate me.
Stop exaggerating like we are asking for overtly personal information.

I seriously don't understand why you gotta feel so defensive about gender and nationality.

Nationality is kinda important. I bet an American would not really know the intricacies of a Canadian system, like a Canadian would for example.

So if somebody was commenting or debating on Canada, would I put more weight on the words of a Canadian or an American? It all matters. Of course if you are an American living in Canada for many many years, that adds on to it isn't it? Suddenly, you are an American who may know Canada because you live there for so long. It all makes a difference.

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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 3:19:44 AM   
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Stop exaggerating like we are asking for overtly personal information.
I seriously don't understand why you gotta feel so defensive about gender and nationality.


Okay, I'll be honest.

Mostly, I'm not telling you simply because you want me to tell you. The more you act like I owe you that information, the more I actively don't want to tell you.

I like the ambiguity and I like the fact that you feel the need to keep bringing it up... because it makes me think that it's really getting to you.

Maybe you actually do believe that you're all about honesty and integrity because you're openly advertising yourself and your numerous exploits on a BDSM sex site, but the idea seems ridiculous to me... it's an online forum, not Band Of Brothers.

I'm not saying that I wouldn't be friends with anyone here, but I really don't think it would be with anyone who currently gives a shit about this issue.

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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 4:00:50 AM   
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Mostly, I'm not telling you simply because you want me to tell you. The more you act like I owe you that information, the more I actively don't want to tell you.

I like the ambiguity and I like the fact that you feel the need to keep bringing it up... because it makes me think that it's really getting to you.

Maybe you actually do believe that you're all about honesty and integrity

Actually, people are free to misrepresent themselves as much as they like. Clearly, one day, you feel like being a Male Sub. And next day a Russian woman. Playing a virtual role online.
But in political debate realm, where things are more serious and less playful. It does take away alot of your credibility.
It's like some socks here, nobody takes them seriously. They are just fun and games.
So if that's the way you want to represent yourself, like one of them socks that constantly changes identity.

Sure, okay.


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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 4:06:25 AM   
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But in political debate realm, where things are more serious and less playful. It does take away alot of your credibility.


I'm pretty much 100% certain that you're just saying that because you have no other way to refute my points.

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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 4:08:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		What are your points? Your point is you are playing the childish game of, refusing to clarify your nationality and gender simply because I want to know, so you will never tell me. It's like talking to a 5 yr old. And what a 5 yr old would say.

Yea you know what? You can't debate with a 5 yr old. Who is going like, "Na Na Na Na Na, I won't tell you because you wanna know!"

Gosh that's seriously rationalizing with a baby.

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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 4:11:05 AM   
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What are your points?


In the non-derailed-by-this-pointless-bullshit threads, genius.

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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 4:13:13 AM   
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In the non-derailed-by-this-pointless-bullshit threads, genius.

If you are talking about your points about why should your gender and nationality matter? Please go back and read Post #62.

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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 5:01:29 AM   
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If you are talking about your points about why should your gender and nationality matter? Please go back and read Post #62.


Post 62 was a repeat of another post you made that also didn't make sense.

Just because someone is a certain nationality, it doesn't mean that they actually know what's going on in their country. Being informed and taking the time to hone your critical thinking skills makes you a far more credible source than simply being born in a certain place, especially when it's something as large and diverse as an entire country, and even more especially if you're talking about that country's place in the world.

Unless you have actually lived in various political climates, various cities, various countries, and/or various communities, meeting with and listening to people and noting their mannerisms, culture and beliefs... or if at least you are OPEN to learning about their politics through second-hand sources like books and documentaries (NOT slanted media sources), then your first-hand experience isn't going to be worth a lot when it comes to understanding the bigger picture. Using your point of origin as a veto isn't a valid method for shutting down debate unless you have something insightful to say that depends exclusively on your experience.

It's also invalid for anyone to say 'well at least I have the honesty and integrity to admit who I am' when you don't have any way to refute my points.

Anyways, I'm really embarrassed that this whole shitstorm had to spill over into this thread as well and I can't bear to take it any further.

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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 5:07:42 AM   
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The money is hoarded/controlled by the 1%. So basically they are controlling how money is spent... or not.


so i'll say/try again.

unless the money is being kept under their beds, its actually out there in the public somehow.

exactly how do the rich people control how "money" (as opposed to "their money") is spent?

and more to the point, how does their being rich make you any poorer? exasperatingly enough, I shared information with you about the "poor" getting richer, and yet you still want to refer to them, or our system in feudal terms.

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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 5:14:02 AM   
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Post 62 was a repeat of another post you made that also didn't make sense.

Just because someone is a certain nationality, it doesn't mean that they actually know what's going on in their country.

This I completely disagree. The fact that many online sources and news are suspects with personal agendas. I always trust the information from people that I feel are reliable characters, living on the ground more than the research I do online.
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Being informed and taking the time to hone your critical thinking skills makes you a far more credible source than simply being born in a certain place, especially when it's something as large and diverse as an entire country, and even more especially if you're talking about that country's place in the world.

Except changing your profile from male sub to russian female for whatever reasons that amuses, is not gonna make you seem like someone who have critical thinking skills or informed person.
It's like saying people don't judge you by your appearances in real life and in the real world and in job interviews. All not true.

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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 5:27:40 AM   
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This I completely disagree. The fact that many online sources and news are suspects with personal agendas. I always trust the information from people that I feel are reliable characters, living on the ground more than the research I do online.


So how did you decide who to listen to on Trump? Why did you choose his supporters instead of his detractors? I mean, since you're not American, and your opinion on the matter is therefore completely worthless.

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Except changing your profile from male sub to russian female for whatever reasons that amuses, is not gonna make you seem like someone who have critical thinking skills or informed person.


So anyone who has critical thinking skills or is informed can't have a sense of humor, and the moment they do something to amuse themselves, everything they've ever said is rendered completely worthless.

Then again, you flipped out forever when I used the word 'promiscuous', so it's not really surprising that you're actively looking for opportunities to write people off.

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It's like saying people don't judge you by your appearances in real life and in the real world and in job interviews. All not true.


People also judge each other by their abilities... and it's not like you're not in control of how objective you allow yourself to be.
If this is some personal thing with you, then fine... stop pretending it's universal.

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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 6:20:17 AM   
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... so much for hard work
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/how-warren-buffett-made-12-billion-in-2016-202017531.html

Apparently, you don't know how hard it is to count to 12 billion.

Anyone who thinks it's easy should just go do it.
There's a reason he's called the Oracle of Omaha.
Get back to us and share your results.


Aw, ain't you cute.

Actually, I'm sure Buffett doesn't work hard physically. And, I'm not begrudging him his income, either.

I took Tamaka's post (and her posts further down on page one show that I was correct) to be about him not physically working hard. That's why I responded with a physical action. Notice the , too?


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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 6:29:54 AM   
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... so much for hard work
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/how-warren-buffett-made-12-billion-in-2016-202017531.html

So, you think he didn't work hard to get to where he is?

No... i don't. How many long hard hours would nurses, teachers, plumbers, etc have to work to make that kind of money?

So your argument is that because someone else doesn't earn as much as he earns, he hasn't worked hard.

No... my argument is that no one should be able to make that kind of money. The money he has is way beyond the proportion of any 'Work' he has done. Money is made for circulation.


Wouldn't that be "working smarter, not harder?"

Any piece of paper he holds actually has zero intrinsic value. Gold doesn't even have much intrinsic value. The only reason anything has any value is because other people value it. A Babe Ruth rookie card in mint condition is only worth as much as someone would pay for it. If no one is willing to pay more than $10 for one, then it isn't really worth more than $10. It can be worth $4B to you, but if no one else values it that high, it really isn't worth $4B.

How much money should someone be allowed to make? Where would you set that bar, and why there?


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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 6:39:37 AM   
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since you're not American, and your opinion on the matter is therefore completely worthless.

That's 100% true, I don't expect Americans to listen to me about Trump. I am simply participating in the Trump Fun. And chose to side Team Trump based on which of those candidates I would prefer to run my country. It's entertainment for me. Whether Trump or Hillary wins does not affect my country in any way. My government will get along with either candidates perfectly. But my prediction and feel was right and Trump won. :) Worthless but pretty good perception.

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So anyone who has critical thinking skills or is informed can't have a sense of humor, and the moment they do something to amuse themselves, everything they've ever said is rendered completely worthless.

That's precisely what all the socks are doing for their own fun and entertainment too. So it simply diminish the credibility of any of their views.
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Then again, you flipped out forever when I used the word 'promiscuous'

Yup, because it is an insulting degrading word to use on a woman. It's definitely not neutral. It's the same as calling a black person "nigger". Nigger is an accurate dictionary term for a black African descent person, but it is degrading and insulting to them. Infact, I had some American guys, like guys that are 70 yr old told me in the old days in the US, African Americans wanted to be addressed as "Niggers". It wasn't always offensive until it became offensive. To me, these days, Promiscuous has been used too often by religious people as a degrading word on women. Anybody who says it is neutral is being completely dishonest about it. The word can never be used as compliment but have been used as an insult many times.
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If this is some personal thing with you, then fine... stop pretending it's universal.

Um..., it is universal. Reality check! Try turning up in a job interview for a bank, for example, dressed like a trans russian female. I doubt you will be taken seriously and get the job.


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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 6:40:51 AM   
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Tamaka Why are you against saving money? That is a form of hording. You put it in the bank, get 2% interest or whatever, and they use it for other purposes until you ask for it back. So the money stayed incirculation by the bank. Now if I made the 12B and put it in the bank for them to use and got my $240M in interest I am sure that you might well be upset with me because I didn't give it to my employees, I just put it away in a savings account and lived off the interest.

As my doctor says... everything in moderation. Saving some money for a rainy day makes sense. If everyone saved all of their money it wouldn't be good for the economy. Money needs to be circulated in order to keep thd economy going. And it needs to be circulated in a way that benefits our country. Billionnaires not paying taxes and American corporations off- shoring everything, and everyday people buying all their goods imported from China and people paying illegal immigrants to do work.... all of these things aren't helping our economy.


Please stop. You are showing your lack of understanding with every post in this thread.

If everyone saved money, it wouldn't be "good" for the economy? Why the fuck not? If everyone saved money, prices would drop to get more people to spend. Maybe our exports would rise dramatically without reducing our output? You're assuming the economy is supposed to be at the level it is or higher.

A huge part of society's (in the US) problem is over consumption. If people weren't so inclined to consumer ever more and more, a lot of problems would go away or be reduced greatly.


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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 8:09:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: tamaka
... so much for hard work
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/how-warren-buffett-made-12-billion-in-2016-202017531.html

Apparently, you don't know how hard it is to count to 12 billion.

Anyone who thinks it's easy should just go do it.
There's a reason he's called the Oracle of Omaha.
Get back to us and share your results.


Aw, ain't you cute.

Actually, I'm sure Buffett doesn't work hard physically. And, I'm not begrudging him his income, either.

I took Tamaka's post (and her posts further down on page one show that I was correct) to be about him not physically working hard. That's why I responded with a physical action. Notice the , too?


Ah. I didn't see the emoji in the dictionary. I admit I'm not text-speak fluent.

I have a suggestion -- sometimes you get into a stubborn corner, but I've done that too, and sometimes we take silly swipes at each other, but you know, you aren't one of the terminally ridiculous posters -- you're often sharp and insightful.

So let's you and I agree to give each other the benefit of the doubt -- I'll read your posts twice before I inadvertently assume sinister intent, and you do the same, and see whether we can help elevate at least part of this dismissal mess of a forum into something occasionally resembling discussion.

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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 8:45:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Warren Buffett on President-elect Trump: 'He deserves everybody's respect' http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/11/investing/warren-buffett-donald-trump-stock/

Can someone tell me if he is on trumpaloons team? I bet he is the fuking weasel

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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 10:16:06 AM   
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Warren Buffett on President-elect Trump: 'He deserves everybody's respect' http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/11/investing/warren-buffett-donald-trump-stock/

Can someone tell me if he is on trumpaloons team? I bet he is the fuking weasel


He claims to be a 'socialist', so I'm gonna say no.
I think he just doesn't want another civil war.

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RE: Warren Buffet made $12 billion in 2016 - 12/30/2016 2:20:35 PM   
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Warren Buffett on President-elect Trump: 'He deserves everybody's respect' http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/11/investing/warren-buffett-donald-trump-stock/

Can someone tell me if he is on trumpaloons team? I bet he is the fuking weasel


He's actually a Hillary supporter. He donated to her campaign and gave speeches for her.

And regardless of what you think of the person who is President, you should be respectful to the office of President.

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