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Syrian activists languish in government jails - 12/31/2016 7:50:27 AM   
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Syrian activists languish in government jails

Tens of thousands of political prisoners are being held without charge or on confessions obtained through torture.

These are the people Putin and Trump and Iran and now the Trumpets in the GOP want to defeat -- people doing what we consider a fundamental right in the US. So much for democracy and human rights.

For the crime of providing food to displaced Aleppans, her friends say, activist Zilal Salhani became one among tens of thousands of political prisoners left to an uncertain fate in Syria's jails.

Arrested at 19 by regime forces in Aleppo in July 2012, Salhani has now spent her university years in a series of shadowy government detention centres. She was convicted of supporting "terrorists", but according to friend Mohammad Shbeeb, Salhani was always peaceful.

Before her detention, the Free Syrian Army had recently taken certain areas in and around Aleppo, prompting retaliatory government air strikes. Salhani, an engineering student who had been an active participant in civil demonstrations against the government of President Bashar al-Assad, took food to those displaced by the heavy fighting and helped them to find shelter.

"Civilian activists who took to the street at the beginning of the revolution were considered by the regime as very dangerous people, because they were against using weapons and tried to keep the resistance peaceful despite the regime trying to militarise it," said Kareem Hourani, a member of the Detainees Voice activist group.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/12/syrian-activists-languish-government-jails-161226134131836.html

What would you do if an authoritarian government came to power? Apparently, cheer it on.
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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 12/31/2016 8:20:12 AM   
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aljazeera now...


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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 12/31/2016 8:28:37 AM   
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Ah. The "nuh-uh" defensive.


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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 12/31/2016 8:36:23 AM   
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And what ? We got people in jail five years for smoking a joint.

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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 12/31/2016 8:41:08 AM   
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Ah. The "nuh-uh" defensive.




You call people gay, moron

What I am saying is that you habitually use sources that show your serious lack of intellect. or that you have simply lost your mind

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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 12/31/2016 8:52:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Syrian activists languish in government jails
Tens of thousands of political prisoners are being held without charge or on confessions obtained through torture.
These are the people Putin and Trump and Iran and now the Trumpets in the GOP want to defeat -- people doing what we consider a fundamental right in the US. So much for democracy and human rights.
For the crime of providing food to displaced Aleppans, her friends say, activist Zilal Salhani became one among tens of thousands of political prisoners left to an uncertain fate in Syria's jails.
Arrested at 19 by regime forces in Aleppo in July 2012, Salhani has now spent her university years in a series of shadowy government detention centres. She was convicted of supporting "terrorists", but according to friend Mohammad Shbeeb, Salhani was always peaceful.
Before her detention, the Free Syrian Army had recently taken certain areas in and around Aleppo, prompting retaliatory government air strikes. Salhani, an engineering student who had been an active participant in civil demonstrations against the government of President Bashar al-Assad, took food to those displaced by the heavy fighting and helped them to find shelter.
"Civilian activists who took to the street at the beginning of the revolution were considered by the regime as very dangerous people, because they were against using weapons and tried to keep the resistance peaceful despite the regime trying to militarise it," said Kareem Hourani, a member of the Detainees Voice activist group.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/12/syrian-activists-languish-government-jails-161226134131836.html
What would you do if an authoritarian government came to power? Apparently, cheer it on.


What do you think the US response should be?


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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 12/31/2016 9:43:15 AM   
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Des, the US response should be to pull out. We never belonged there in the first place. Those prisoners would not be prisoners without US intervention.

I know Trump is not up on everything, but I think as a businessman he sees war as a cost. If he makes nice with Putin the situation in Syria and Ukraine might just be resolved. Trouble with Iran abated. China is a different story, it looks like they got their big boy pants on now and fear not. However they are never coming here. Even though they got a billion people, not all of them are combat fit. They can not come here, we got hundreds of millions of guns, little old Ladies will be picking them off from the front porches. That is one thing about having guns in the US, they make it damnear impossible for any foreign force to take over. And remember, not one foreign attack on this country in this century has been thwarted. Seems we defend the rest of the world but not ourselves.

This whole shit in Syria started with like 100 protesters. Now it is a worldwide issue going out to bumfuct Egypt somewhere. (well actually Saudi Arabia)

Don't these people realize that it is time to stop this shit ? Enough is enough. Yesh Gvul. We are out of money, we have no jobs, we have no industry. The fucking US is going to have to buy the weapons from people they are going to attack. And they think that is OK. They are not morons, they are high functioning savants.

At least Whites learned not to keep popping out babies. Others haven't. We will be extinct and they will starve to death slowly.

OK

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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 12/31/2016 10:44:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Syrian activists languish in government jails

Tens of thousands of political prisoners are being held without charge or on confessions obtained through torture.

These are the people Putin and Trump and Iran and now the Trumpets in the GOP want to defeat -- people doing what we consider a fundamental right in the US. So much for democracy and human rights.

For the crime of providing food to displaced Aleppans, her friends say, activist Zilal Salhani became one among tens of thousands of political prisoners left to an uncertain fate in Syria's jails.

Arrested at 19 by regime forces in Aleppo in July 2012, Salhani has now spent her university years in a series of shadowy government detention centres. She was convicted of supporting "terrorists", but according to friend Mohammad Shbeeb, Salhani was always peaceful.

Before her detention, the Free Syrian Army had recently taken certain areas in and around Aleppo, prompting retaliatory government air strikes. Salhani, an engineering student who had been an active participant in civil demonstrations against the government of President Bashar al-Assad, took food to those displaced by the heavy fighting and helped them to find shelter.

"Civilian activists who took to the street at the beginning of the revolution were considered by the regime as very dangerous people, because they were against using weapons and tried to keep the resistance peaceful despite the regime trying to militarise it," said Kareem Hourani, a member of the Detainees Voice activist group.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/12/syrian-activists-languish-government-jails-161226134131836.html

What would you do if an authoritarian government came to power? Apparently, cheer it on.


"Activists" = Obamas ISIS friends?

According to Mr Rogers' sources, anyhoo

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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 12/31/2016 10:46:02 AM   
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If he makes nice with Putin the situation in Syria and Ukraine might just be resolved.

How? They'll just retreat from the Ukraine and Crimea if he lifts the embargos?

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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 12/31/2016 2:09:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Syrian activists languish in government jails
Tens of thousands of political prisoners are being held without charge or on confessions obtained through torture.
These are the people Putin and Trump and Iran and now the Trumpets in the GOP want to defeat -- people doing what we consider a fundamental right in the US. So much for democracy and human rights.
For the crime of providing food to displaced Aleppans, her friends say, activist Zilal Salhani became one among tens of thousands of political prisoners left to an uncertain fate in Syria's jails.
Arrested at 19 by regime forces in Aleppo in July 2012, Salhani has now spent her university years in a series of shadowy government detention centres. She was convicted of supporting "terrorists", but according to friend Mohammad Shbeeb, Salhani was always peaceful.
Before her detention, the Free Syrian Army had recently taken certain areas in and around Aleppo, prompting retaliatory government air strikes. Salhani, an engineering student who had been an active participant in civil demonstrations against the government of President Bashar al-Assad, took food to those displaced by the heavy fighting and helped them to find shelter.
"Civilian activists who took to the street at the beginning of the revolution were considered by the regime as very dangerous people, because they were against using weapons and tried to keep the resistance peaceful despite the regime trying to militarise it," said Kareem Hourani, a member of the Detainees Voice activist group.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/12/syrian-activists-languish-government-jails-161226134131836.html
What would you do if an authoritarian government came to power? Apparently, cheer it on.


What do you think the US response should be?


Probably NOT teaming up with the Russians and Iran to support the Syrian regime committing the atrocities.

Instead of cheering them on.

Real people. Real problems.

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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 12/31/2016 10:04:42 PM   
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If he makes nice with Putin the situation in Syria and Ukraine might just be resolved.

How? They'll just retreat from the Ukraine and Crimea if he lifts the embargos?


You can't retreat fro where you ain't. The Russians in Ukraine are there of their own volition, they got family there. Crimea voted to join, if there are ay Russian government troops there it is because the Crimeans want them there. Also years ago, the Georgians ASKED Russia for help.

On the other hand, Iraq did not ask for help from the US. Afghanistan did not ask for help from the US. Libya did not ask for help from the US. Syria did not ask for help from the US. Years ago Venezuela did not ask for help from the US but they went and deposed Chavez anyway. That lasted about 48 hours because the People rose up, threw out the US invaders, freed Chavez and put him back where he belonged, the lawfully elected President.

Don't you get suspicious when one sided news always paints one side as right and the rest of the world wrong ? Not even a tiny bit ? People talk about RT being slanted at least, even going to the point of calling it pure propaganda, but they have been proven right quite a bit.

Yup, except in Europe, Israel and a few other compliant countries, the world is full of bad guys and the US is a knight in shining armor.

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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 12/31/2016 10:12:31 PM   
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"Probably NOT teaming up with the Russians and Iran to support the Syrian regime committing the atrocities. "

Amerocentric. There are no atrocities, and in case you didn't get the memo, Assad did not use the gas.

There are foreign forces in the country trying to topple the lawful government there. There are no atrocities. As far as I am concerned everything a country does to protect itself is not an atrocity. It is when you go somewhere else and do it, but if they come on your soil, just like here, I would support burning them alive at the stake.

The media paints this picture of the US being a knight in shining armor against all these bad guys in the world. That is a bunch of fucking shit. It is ALL about money. Nothiing else. Actuions speak louder than words. Look at what they do, and then take a look for example at a map of natural resources. And if that isn't revealing enough, look at the countries with oil and gas and the countries that need oil and gas. Now take a ruler and draw lines between them, a straight line is the cheapest distance between two points. Figure a pipeline there. What if the People or government doesn't want it there ? REGIME CHANGE ! THE GUY IS A BUTCHER !

But the Shah of Iran was just fine.

People need to wake the fuck up. We are not the good guys.

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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 1/1/2017 6:02:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Syrian activists languish in government jails
Tens of thousands of political prisoners are being held without charge or on confessions obtained through torture.
These are the people Putin and Trump and Iran and now the Trumpets in the GOP want to defeat -- people doing what we consider a fundamental right in the US. So much for democracy and human rights.
For the crime of providing food to displaced Aleppans, her friends say, activist Zilal Salhani became one among tens of thousands of political prisoners left to an uncertain fate in Syria's jails.
Arrested at 19 by regime forces in Aleppo in July 2012, Salhani has now spent her university years in a series of shadowy government detention centres. She was convicted of supporting "terrorists", but according to friend Mohammad Shbeeb, Salhani was always peaceful.
Before her detention, the Free Syrian Army had recently taken certain areas in and around Aleppo, prompting retaliatory government air strikes. Salhani, an engineering student who had been an active participant in civil demonstrations against the government of President Bashar al-Assad, took food to those displaced by the heavy fighting and helped them to find shelter.
"Civilian activists who took to the street at the beginning of the revolution were considered by the regime as very dangerous people, because they were against using weapons and tried to keep the resistance peaceful despite the regime trying to militarise it," said Kareem Hourani, a member of the Detainees Voice activist group.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/12/syrian-activists-languish-government-jails-161226134131836.html
What would you do if an authoritarian government came to power? Apparently, cheer it on.

What do you think the US response should be?

Probably NOT teaming up with the Russians and Iran to support the Syrian regime committing the atrocities.
Instead of cheering them on.
Real people. Real problems.


So, your only response would be to not team up with Russia and Iran to support Assad?

I didn't even realize we were doing that.




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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 1/1/2017 6:05:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
Don't you get suspicious when one sided news always paints one side as right and the rest of the world wrong ? Not even a tiny bit ? People talk about RT being slanted at least, even going to the point of calling it pure propaganda, but they have been proven right quite a bit.

I certainly get suspicious when somebody who doesn't seem to have a clue about how Russian expansionism over the last seven years has worked starts making excuses for the occupation of a nation that declared its independence in 1991.
(On the other hand, the spectacle of somebody who only pays any attention to ideologically slanted news he agrees with complaining about less appealing biases elsewhere in the media is pathetic, rather than suspicious.)

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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 1/1/2017 6:10:42 AM   
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Probably NOT teaming up with the Russians and Iran to support the Syrian regime committing the atrocities.

Instead of cheering them on.

Real people. Real problems.


So you join team ISIS, just like tour buddy Barack

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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 1/1/2017 12:27:51 PM   
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Ah, no. Not even close.

Are you truly this ridiculously stupid?

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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 1/1/2017 8:56:42 PM   
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Ah, no. Not even close.

Are you truly this ridiculously stupid?


That's exactly what you are advocating, moron. You are so hysterical about your pantsuit losing to Trump that you are spouting constant insanity, post after post and thread after thread.

Its hilarious, too. Great show


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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 1/1/2017 10:29:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
Don't you get suspicious when one sided news always paints one side as right and the rest of the world wrong ? Not even a tiny bit ? People talk about RT being slanted at least, even going to the point of calling it pure propaganda, but they have been proven right quite a bit.

I certainly get suspicious when somebody who doesn't seem to have a clue about how Russian expansionism over the last seven years has worked starts making excuses for the occupation of a nation that declared its independence in 1991.
(On the other hand, the spectacle of somebody who only pays any attention to ideologically slanted news he agrees with complaining about less appealing biases elsewhere in the media is pathetic, rather than suspicious.)


The government of Ukraine was pro Russia. Now it is pro US. Care to tell me how Russia accomplished that ?

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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 1/2/2017 4:40:15 AM   
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The government of Ukraine was pro-Russian until Russia invaded the country. That seems to have soured the diplomatic situation a little.

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RE: Syrian activists languish in government jails - 1/2/2017 6:32:42 AM   
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Ah. The "nuh-uh" defensive.




You call people gay, moron

What I am saying is that you habitually use sources that show your serious lack of intellect. or that you have simply lost your mind

Wrong again.

Do you ever get anything right, or do you just make up everything in your head?

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