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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/5/2017 8:07:09 AM   
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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/5/2017 5:45:46 PM   
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Thoughts?

The single correlative factor in future poverty, criminality and addiction is being raised by a single mother. Fact. As a widower, and father, I hope to find another good woman. Not just for my sake, but for my child's. Anecdotal protestations from those raised by amazing single parents aside, every study shows that children of both sexes are best raised in a two-parent household. It is a matter of resources: intellectual, emotional and financial.

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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/5/2017 6:15:00 PM   
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The rise of single-mother families in black America is the single most influential factor in the poor social, educational and economic outcomes for black children.

I would agree with you on that. Seems to make sense, it does.

However, I would also be interested to see what the correlation is for white kids in single parent homes and their educational attainment. And, are there other factors involved?
Jay Fayza mentions many of them in this video. The figures he quote support a link between educational outcomes and economic outcomes: https://youtu.be/AoHAG9UFaKI


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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/5/2017 6:24:09 PM   
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Thoughts?

The single correlative factor in future poverty, criminality and addiction is being raised by a single mother. Fact. As a widower, and father, I hope to find another good woman. Not just for my sake, but for my child's. Anecdotal protestations from those raised by amazing single parents aside, every study shows that children of both sexes are best raised in a two-parent household. It is a matter of resources: intellectual, emotional and financial.


I wonder if it's a different outcome being raised by a single dad vs a single mom.

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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/6/2017 4:41:20 AM   
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Thoughts?

The single correlative factor in future poverty, criminality and addiction is being raised by a single mother. Fact. As a widower, and father, I hope to find another good woman. Not just for my sake, but for my child's. Anecdotal protestations from those raised by amazing single parents aside, every study shows that children of both sexes are best raised in a two-parent household. It is a matter of resources: intellectual, emotional and financial.


I wonder if it's a different outcome being raised by a single dad vs a single mom.


One immediately obvious difference is that it's hard to accuse a single father of getting pregnant in order to receive welfare benefits instead of having to look for work.

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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/6/2017 5:33:05 PM   
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I wonder if it's a different outcome being raised by a single dad vs a single mom.



In studies, the difference is negligible.

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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/7/2017 8:25:37 AM   
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The rise of single-mother families in black America is the single most influential factor in the poor social, educational and economic outcomes for black children.

I would agree with you on that. Seems to make sense, it does.

However, I would also be interested to see what the correlation is for white kids in single parent homes and their educational attainment. And, are there other factors involved?
Jay Fayza mentions many of them in this video. The figures he quote support a link between educational outcomes and economic outcomes: https://youtu.be/AoHAG9UFaKI


Thanks for the video.

Fayza states the obvious. Single parent black families headed by a poorly educated mother in most cases will be impoverished and the progeny will have a high rate of school failure. Then he blames the victims, doesn't he, for their future poverty? The white dominated legislative and correctional power structure has nothing to do with the breakdown of black family demographics with the increased rate of black male incarceration? Fayza ignores all the tough on crime rhetoric and legislation as well as the growth of private correctional institutions happily willing to warehouse many black men for non-violent offenses.

Fayza also goes astray, imo, when he compares the economic successes of Asians, Indian, Iranian, and Nigerian immigrants to black Americans. Firstly, we do not know the talents and financial resources brought to America by those immigrants. Secondly, they are smaller groups compared to American blacks and we can speculate that they have greater opportunities for assistance within their groups. It is important to remember the history of the most recent migration of southern blacks into the northern cities; they were poor and uneducated share croppers driven from the fields by the invention of the cotton combine in the 1950s. The comparison is not a valid one in my opinion.

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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/7/2017 8:28:40 AM   
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The single correlative factor in future poverty, criminality and addiction is being raised by a single mother. Fact. As a widower, and father, I hope to find another good woman. Not just for my sake, but for my child's. Anecdotal protestations from those raised by amazing single parents aside, every study shows that children of both sexes are best raised in a two-parent household. It is a matter of resources: intellectual, emotional and financial.

Umm, no. Race is a correlative and so is education of the mother and her economic status as well.

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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/7/2017 8:53:20 AM   
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I wonder if it's a different outcome being raised by a single dad vs a single mom.



In studies, the difference is negligible.


Ok thanks... that's interesting.

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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/7/2017 8:56:49 AM   
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The rise of single-mother families in black America is the single most influential factor in the poor social, educational and economic outcomes for black children.

I would agree with you on that. Seems to make sense, it does.

However, I would also be interested to see what the correlation is for white kids in single parent homes and their educational attainment. And, are there other factors involved?
Jay Fayza mentions many of them in this video. The figures he quote support a link between educational outcomes and economic outcomes: https://youtu.be/AoHAG9UFaKI


Thanks for the video.

Fayza states the obvious. Single parent black families headed by a poorly educated mother in most cases will be impoverished and the progeny will have a high rate of school failure. Then he blames the victims, doesn't he, for their future poverty? The white dominated legislative and correctional power structure has nothing to do with the breakdown of black family demographics with the increased rate of black male incarceration? Fayza ignores all the tough on crime rhetoric and legislation as well as the growth of private correctional institutions happily willing to warehouse many black men for non-violent offenses.

Fayza also goes astray, imo, when he compares the economic successes of Asians, Indian, Iranian, and Nigerian immigrants to black Americans. Firstly, we do not know the talents and financial resources brought to America by those immigrants. Secondly, they are smaller groups compared to American blacks and we can speculate that they have greater opportunities for assistance within their groups. It is important to remember the history of the most recent migration of southern blacks into the northern cities; they were poor and uneducated share croppers driven from the fields by the invention of the cotton combine in the 1950s. The comparison is not a valid one in my opinion.


It would be interesting to know how much we spend to have black Americans in this country.

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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/7/2017 10:54:03 AM   
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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/7/2017 11:04:02 AM   
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Presumably so that the tango fuhrer can claim that rounding them all up and gassing them will save money because more's being spent on supporting economically worthless nigger spongers than killing them all would cost.

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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/7/2017 2:05:57 PM   
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It would be interesting to know how much we spend to have black Americans in this country.

The truth is out there. Google "TANF by race" "Food stamps by race" "Section 8 housing by race" "school lunch by race" and other stuff.

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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/7/2017 2:13:28 PM   
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It would be interesting to know how much we spend to have black Americans in this country.

The truth is out there. Google "TANF by race" "Food stamps by race" "Section 8 housing by race" "school lunch by race" and other stuff.


Ok thanks.

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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/7/2017 2:15:10 PM   
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why?



Because i'm curious.

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RE: Single Mother Families . . . - 1/7/2017 2:16:47 PM   
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Presumably so that the tango fuhrer can claim that rounding them all up and gassing them will save money because more's being spent on supporting economically worthless nigger spongers than killing them all would cost.


Wow... you really should get some help for that mind of yours before it gets wreckless some day.

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