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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/14/2017 2:28:30 PM   
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Sadly though, Reagan wasn't shot by somebody who could shoot straight.


id say this is right up there with mnottertroll accusing people of incest and child molestation as a post that shows an utter lack of humanity.

the very definition of pathetic.




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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/14/2017 2:34:09 PM   
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Sadly though, Reagan wasn't shot by somebody who could shoot straight.


id say this is right up there with mnottertroll accusing people of incest and child molestation as a post that shows an utter lack of humanity.

the very definition of pathetic.





They keep showing who they are, they aren't liberals by any stretch. They try to demonize me for posting the truth but their words and their deeds do a far better job of demonizing themselves

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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/14/2017 2:45:21 PM   
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I really wish there was some way to block BoscoX from appearing in other people's comments as well.

Yeah.

Well, folks, here's a question --

Is it OK to ask the Soviets to help you in the election? Yes or No.

I.e., is it OK for Fake or Not Kennedy and Trump, or not OK for either/any?




Doesn't the answer depend on the consequences?

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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/14/2017 4:24:24 PM   
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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/14/2017 4:25:55 PM   
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Hinckley crippled two people, (Brady and a Secret Service agent) and shot Reagan in the lung he could shoot straight but fortunately used a .22 .
Otherwise all three would likely have died, but you want everyone you disagree with dead.

Hinkley fired 6 times in less thqn 2 seconds at raygun and missed him all six times. What hit ragun was a ricochet.
He was using "sky marshall" bullets that expolde on impact. In this case only the one that hit jim brady in the head worked the rest were duds.

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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/14/2017 6:03:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I really wish there was some way to block BoscoX from appearing in other people's comments as well.

Yeah.

Well, folks, here's a question --

Is it OK to ask the Soviets to help you in the election? Yes or No.

I.e., is it OK for Fake or Not Kennedy and Trump, or not OK for either/any?




Doesn't the answer depend on the consequences?


Isn't a question not an answer?

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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/14/2017 7:06:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I really wish there was some way to block BoscoX from appearing in other people's comments as well.

Yeah.

Well, folks, here's a question --

Is it OK to ask the Soviets to help you in the election? Yes or No.

I.e., is it OK for Fake or Not Kennedy and Trump, or not OK for either/any?




Doesn't the answer depend on the consequences?


Isn't a question not an answer?


There was a time when i was younger that i would have been the first one to stand up and say, "No, it's absolutely not ok!". Now i am older and i have to say... "Who knows?... A lot of things are not as they seem and we don't know what we don't know. So i guess i'll stick with ... it depends on the consequences. "


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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/14/2017 8:42:45 PM   
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Sadly though, Reagan wasn't shot by somebody who could shoot straight.


id say this is right up there with mnottertroll accusing people of incest and child molestation as a post that shows an utter lack of humanity.

the very definition of pathetic.




( never accused anyone of such a thing, it is clear that they admitted it, Your lack of humanity is exceeded by your flechgobbling, lying shtieating and tonguing of factless nutsucker slobberbloggers.

Go over in the corner by your dish and lay down dogshit44 , grab up an English grammar book, some might wear off on your retarded ass.

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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/14/2017 8:45:44 PM   
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Sadly though, Reagan wasn't shot by somebody who could shoot straight.


id say this is right up there with mnottertroll accusing people of incest and child molestation as a post that shows an utter lack of humanity.

the very definition of pathetic.





They keep showing who they are, they aren't liberals by any stretch. They try to demonize me for posting the truth but their words and their deeds do a far better job of demonizing themselves



As you show who you are tommie, a nutsucker of the first order, and old doghit44 is jealous because you got first tonging in the circle felchgobble you guys have been in since easily the 1980s. You have been along with your submissive felching circle to every airport bathroom felch caucus, regligoiusly since then.l

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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/14/2017 8:54:01 PM   
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Isn't a question not an answer?



Years ago, either Abigail Van Buren (Dear Abby) or her sister Ann Landers (both Jewish) was asked by a reader: "Why do Jews always answer a question with a question?"

The response was: "How should they answer?"



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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/15/2017 7:23:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		None the less, here's the question:

Is it OK for Fake or Not Kennedy and Trump, or not OK for either/any?

If someone has an opinion on this, but won't answer the question, they are simply slinging shit their partisan way.

But if "it depends," then the question would be:

Under what circumstances is it OK to ask a foreign power to interfere with the election on your behalf?

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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/15/2017 8:31:07 AM   
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Under what circumstances is it OK to ask a foreign power to interfere with the election on your behalf?


When they are Mexican nationals voting for Democrats, of course

Everybody knows that

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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/15/2017 8:39:13 AM   
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None the less, here's the question:

Is it OK for Fake or Not Kennedy and Trump, or not OK for either/any?

If someone has an opinion on this, but won't answer the question, they are simply slinging shit their partisan way.

But if "it depends," then the question would be:

Under what circumstances is it OK to ask a foreign power to interfere with the election on your behalf?



I don't understand the part in red, but I'll give the "clarification" a shot:

I think, first, we have to define "interfere".

Is it okay if we finance a negative ad campaign? A successful ad campaign influences the public. No?

I'll stipulate (for the purpose of this discussion only) that Russia was absolutely the source for the wikileaks emails. So? It was a PR campaign that gave transparency to a citizenry that was treated like mushrooms by Hillary Clinton for 30 years.

I canNOT take the position that uninformed voters make a good electorate.

By the same token, the MSM has been acting as semi-open to out loud and proud surrogates for the Dumbocrats for decades. Their "news" is nothing more than a PR or ad campaign for the DNC. Is that influencing elections? Of course it is. In this election's case, though it wasn't as successful as the DNC would have liked it to have been.

My argument against campaign finance "reform" for 20 years has been the influence of the MSM which gives the DNC an unlimited platform (and has for quite some time).

That said, the she-cunt and the DNC spent 1.2 Billion dollars while Trump (little to no help from the RNC) spent half of that. So, I will concede (now) that the media isn't as influential as they would like to be.

That doesn't change the fact that, of late, their raison d’être has been to operate as a mouth piece for a liberal agenda.

So, I ask you to define "influence" in respect to your question?



Michael

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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/15/2017 8:49:55 AM   
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But comparing Trump to Kennedy is a deranged fantasy. An exercise in insanity.

President Trump joked about having the Russians find Hillary's illegally destroyed emails. Ted Kennedy tried to give an enemy aid and comfort, while helping that same enemy attempt to throw an election

The alt left wants to pretend that the cold war is still on too, for this fake news controversy - after maintaining for years that the cold war is over and we can do away with all of our nukes. The state of Russia is not the USSR, despite people like MM trying to convince people that they are one and the same




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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/15/2017 8:58:15 AM   
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Assuming everything is the same, the rightness or wrongness is the same (obviously)

But comparing Trump to Kennedy is a deranged fantasy. An exercise if insanity.

President Trump joked about having the Russians find Hillary's illegally destroyed emails. Ted Kennedy tried to give an enemy aid and comfort, while helping that same enemy attempt to throw an election

The alt left wants to pretend that the cold war is still on too, for this fake news controversy - after maintaining for years that the cold war is over and we can do away with all of our nukes. The state of Russia is not the USSR, despite people like MM trying to convince people that they are one and the same



Ted Kennedy was scum, for a host of reasons, but I am not convinced that this initial report is correct.

Never the less, we can't live thirty years in the past. We have today and the future to influence. We can do nothing about the past.

"Yesterday is history.
Tomorrow's a mystery.
We call today: 'the present' because it's a gift" ... unknown



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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/15/2017 9:46:05 AM   
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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/15/2017 9:54:01 AM   
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Under what circumstances is it OK to ask a foreign power to interfere with the election on your behalf?


When they are Mexican nationals voting for Democrats, of course

Everybody knows that

Never happened. They never have and never will, illegals vote for nutsuckers. Look at the government. Nutsuckers own this travesty.

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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/15/2017 9:55:49 AM   
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Assuming everything is the same, the rightness or wrongness is the same (obviously)

But comparing Trump to Kennedy is a deranged fantasy. An exercise in insanity.

President Trump joked about having the Russians find Hillary's illegally destroyed emails. Ted Kennedy tried to give an enemy aid and comfort, while helping that same enemy attempt to throw an election

The alt left wants to pretend that the cold war is still on too, for this fake news controversy - after maintaining for years that the cold war is over and we can do away with all of our nukes. The state of Russia is not the USSR, despite people like MM trying to convince people that they are one and the same




The facts are Ted Kennedy did no such thing, there is no evidence. On the other hand, Trump wont even use american prostitutes to piss on him. He, like all you nutsuckers is a deep tonguing felchgobbling commie.

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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/15/2017 11:06:36 AM   
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None the less, here's the question:

Is it OK for Fake or Not Kennedy and Trump, or not OK for either/any?

If someone has an opinion on this, but won't answer the question, they are simply slinging shit their partisan way.

But if "it depends," then the question would be:

Under what circumstances is it OK to ask a foreign power to interfere with the election on your behalf?



I don't understand the part in red, but I'll give the "clarification" a shot:

I think, first, we have to define "interfere".

Is it okay if we finance a negative ad campaign? A successful ad campaign influences the public. No?

I'll stipulate (for the purpose of this discussion only) that Russia was absolutely the source for the wikileaks emails. So? It was a PR campaign that gave transparency to a citizenry that was treated like mushrooms by Hillary Clinton for 30 years.

I canNOT take the position that uninformed voters make a good electorate.

By the same token, the MSM has been acting as semi-open to out loud and proud surrogates for the Dumbocrats for decades. Their "news" is nothing more than a PR or ad campaign for the DNC. Is that influencing elections? Of course it is. In this election's case, though it wasn't as successful as the DNC would have liked it to have been.

My argument against campaign finance "reform" for 20 years has been the influence of the MSM which gives the DNC an unlimited platform (and has for quite some time).

That said, the she-cunt and the DNC spent 1.2 Billion dollars while Trump (little to no help from the RNC) spent half of that. So, I will concede (now) that the media isn't as influential as they would like to be.

That doesn't change the fact that, of late, their raison d’être has been to operate as a mouth piece for a liberal agenda.

So, I ask you to define "influence" in respect to your question?



Michael

FOREIGN influence.

Deliberate request for a foreign government to interfere.

OK or not? Or for question dodgers, under what circumstances is it OK?

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RE: Ted Kennedy asked Soviets to Interfere in '84 Election - 1/15/2017 11:27:26 AM   
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FOREIGN influence.

Deliberate request for a foreign government to interfere.

OK or not? Or for question dodgers, under what circumstances is it OK?



I asked for a definition of influence; not more specificity. I think that's the issue.

Is it okay for me as an "Irish American" to send money to a political group that opposes Sin Fein (In some cases it is)? Was it okay for the U.S. to send money to Israel to oppose Netanyahu? Forgetting that I, personally, didn't like my tax money going for that, I don't know that it was illegal or wrong.

It would depend on the laws of the other country, I guess.

So, that brings us back home. Was it okay for Slick Willy to take $500,000 from the Chinese govt. for his '96 re-election? Apparently, since nothing was done about it, I guess it was "okay".

I don't know if this is an answerable question, if you won't specifically define "influence"? Advertisements? Military intervention?



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