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RE: So who started fake news? - 1/17/2017 4:51:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

You are totally lost, especially if you don't know or can't admit that the Soviets were leftists

The soviets weren't leftists any time after the non-bolshevik factions were purged in the 'twenties. Even the more left leaning bolsheviks were done away with: you might like to google "Leon Trotsky" sometime. After that the Soviet union shifted to being the sort of single party autocracy that most of the Republican elements of your government have wet dreams about.

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Leftists who were known for slaughtering or otherwise disposing of dissidents

Because, of course, the current post-Soviet Russian government has no interest in doing that, and there is no evidence at all of Putin having dissidents who've fled the country killed.
Extraordinary the difference renaming the country has made to you guys, isn't it?

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RE: So who started fake news? - 1/17/2017 6:00:44 AM

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So, folks, reminder, the OP is this:

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Since we're endlessly debating this on every thread, apparently it needs a thread of its own.

From yellow journalism to Breitbart to Fox News to MSNBC to CNN to Pravda, everybody's got an opinion. But opinions aren't simply truth either.

Nasty journalism isn't new. Breitbart's leader acknowledged that Breitbart makes up news for its particular clientele (unless he's lying...fake news about fake news...). MSNBC and CNN have clearly given up on balanced. Fox was founded NOT to be balanced (i.e., to tell the "other" side). And the NY Times and the Washington Post have clearly spun things their way.

But denouncing anything we don't want to hear as "fake news" simply keeps us stupid.

To me, this means (it actually always did), that looking at the actual story, including evidence presented and sources, matters, whatever the news/source.

To others, it means getting your news from the "right" source.

Still others (including me, and Michael mentioned this recently) like to check news from a variety of sources, whether we "agree" or not.

How do we proceed, short of simply making up what we want, in an era of "Fake News" (and simply labeling dissenting voices as "fake news")?