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BoscoX -> GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/19/2017 5:11:18 PM)

Did you expect patriotism from the "liberal" who called George W. Bush's debt "unpatriotic"

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Obama Leaves U.S.A $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt

(CNSNews.com) - President Barack Obama will leave the federal government approximately $9,335,000,000,000 deeper in debt than it was when he took office eight years ago, according to data released today by the U.S. Treasury.

The increased debt incurred under Obama equals approximately $75,129 for every person in the United States who had a full-time job in December.

The $9,334,590,089,060.56 that the debt had increased under Obama as of the close of business on Wednesday is far more debt than was accumulated by any previous president. It equals nearly twice as much as the $4,889,100,310,609.44 in additional debt that piled up during the eight years George W. Bush served as president.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-leaves-usa-9335000000000-deeper-debt




mnottertail -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/19/2017 9:14:50 PM)

there is no stopping the nutsucker goons and thugs borrowing and spending. He tried, but the nutsuckers foiled him at every turn. By god the nutsuckers are determined to ruin this country and they are going to borrow and spend until it happens.




vincentML -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 6:55:42 AM)

~FR~

The first fiscal year of Obama's presidency ended on September 30th, 2009. That budget was created by GW Bush. Subtracting that out, we find that Obama increased the Debt by $7.917 Trillion. This was a 68% increase. Part of that was due to mandatory social safety net increases, an increase of the DOD budget, reduced tax revenues from the Great Recession, and a stimulus package aimed at successfully slowing the GR.

OTOH, GW Bush increased the Debt by 101%

LINK




Lucylastic -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 7:07:03 AM)

Donald Trump says he wants to cut taxes for every income level, but that plan could cost the federal government $9.5 trillion over 10 years and send the national debt through the roof.

A new analysis by the Tax Policy Center found that Trump’s plan to cut tax rates for all individuals could create big incentives to save and invest, but it also would add lots of red ink to the government’s books by 2026, violating Trump’s pledge to cut rates without adding to the debt or deficit.

“If you wanted to cut spending to offset these tax cuts you’d have to eliminate all of national defense and still a bunch of discretionary spending or spending on Medicare and Social Security to do it.” said Tax Policy Center Director Leonard Burman on a Tuesday call with reporters.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/12/22/a-9-5-trillion-price-tag-for-trumps-tax-plan/?utm_term=.30d32c8703e8

We all know that it wont "just be " 9.5 trillion
There might be a few more billionaires than 8 richer than 3.5 billion people

hurry guys youve only got ten years to make it....
for the 150 million in the US earning under 30 thousand a year??? tough shit




BoscoX -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 7:18:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Donald Trump says he wants to cut taxes for every income level, but that plan could cost the federal government $9.5 trillion over 10 years and send the national debt through the roof.

A new analysis by the Tax Policy Center found that Trump’s plan to cut tax rates for all individuals could create big incentives to save and invest, but it also would add lots of red ink to the government’s books by 2026, violating Trump’s pledge to cut rates without adding to the debt or deficit.

“If you wanted to cut spending to offset these tax cuts you’d have to eliminate all of national defense and still a bunch of discretionary spending or spending on Medicare and Social Security to do it.” said Tax Policy Center Director Leonard Burman on a Tuesday call with reporters.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/12/22/a-9-5-trillion-price-tag-for-trumps-tax-plan/?utm_term=.30d32c8703e8

We all know that it wont "just be " 9.5 trillion
There might be a few more billionaires than 8 richer than 3.5 billion people

hurry guys youve only got ten years to make it....
for the 150 million in the US earning under 30 thousand a year??? tough shit


Fake news. Ccongressional Republicans have vowed that any tax cuts have to be offset with spending cuts. There are probably going to be massive red ink cuts, we shall see





MasterBrentC -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 7:20:17 AM)

President Trump also said he's gonna cut federal employees by 20%. The savings alone by not having to pay their salaries will be substantial. Personally I'd cut at least 60 or 70 % but that's just me.




BoscoX -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 7:21:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

~FR~

The first fiscal year of Obama's presidency ended on September 30th, 2009. That budget was created by GW Bush. Subtracting that out, we find that Obama increased the Debt by $7.917 Trillion. This was a 68% increase. Part of that was due to mandatory social safety net increases, an increase of the DOD budget, reduced tax revenues from the Great Recession, and a stimulus package aimed at successfully slowing the GR.

OTOH, GW Bush increased the Debt by 101%

LINK


More fake news. For example, Obama collected record tax revenues




captive4ever -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 7:27:12 AM)

So that's the Trump job creation plan.....

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ORIGINAL: MasterBrentC

President Trump also said he's gonna cut federal employees by 20%. The savings alone by not having to pay their salaries will be substantial. Personally I'd cut at least 60 or 70 % but that's just me.





mnottertail -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 8:42:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Donald Trump says he wants to cut taxes for every income level, but that plan could cost the federal government $9.5 trillion over 10 years and send the national debt through the roof.

A new analysis by the Tax Policy Center found that Trump’s plan to cut tax rates for all individuals could create big incentives to save and invest, but it also would add lots of red ink to the government’s books by 2026, violating Trump’s pledge to cut rates without adding to the debt or deficit.

“If you wanted to cut spending to offset these tax cuts you’d have to eliminate all of national defense and still a bunch of discretionary spending or spending on Medicare and Social Security to do it.” said Tax Policy Center Director Leonard Burman on a Tuesday call with reporters.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/12/22/a-9-5-trillion-price-tag-for-trumps-tax-plan/?utm_term=.30d32c8703e8

We all know that it wont "just be " 9.5 trillion
There might be a few more billionaires than 8 richer than 3.5 billion people

hurry guys youve only got ten years to make it....
for the 150 million in the US earning under 30 thousand a year??? tough shit


Fake news. Ccongressional Republicans have vowed that any tax cuts have to be offset with spending cuts. There are probably going to be massive red ink cuts, we shall see



Nutsuckers have vowed no such thing. Think about what they have publiclys stated regarding the military-industial complex they are catamites for.

Your fake nutsucker news not withstanding inSanity. Nutsuckers are stupid, and talk into microphones, where people can see and hear them.




BoscoX -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 8:53:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: captive4ever

So that's the Trump job creation plan.....

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ORIGINAL: MasterBrentC

President Trump also said he's gonna cut federal employees by 20%. The savings alone by not having to pay their salaries will be substantial. Personally I'd cut at least 60 or 70 % but that's just me.




If spending taxpayer money or trillions and trillions of new debt to "create jobs" really worked, imagine the endless possibilities for growth and prosperity

Unfortunately though, writing bad checks never ends well

[image]http://www.truthfulpolitics.com/images/us-federal-debt-by-president-political-party.jpg[/image]






vincentML -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 10:33:34 AM)

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If spending taxpayer money or trillions and trillions of new debt to "create jobs" really worked, imagine the endless possibilities for growth and prosperity

Unfortunately though, writing bad checks never ends well


Keep in mind that government spending is calculated as part of GDP.




WickedsDesire -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 11:28:26 AM)

thanks for those earlier figures vincentML saved me having to work it out.

Anyhoos the genius utter nutter is going to save trillions and trillions of dollars, or was he going to spend trillions and trillions of dollars - his speech confused my logic circuits





vincentML -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 1:15:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

~FR~

The first fiscal year of Obama's presidency ended on September 30th, 2009. That budget was created by GW Bush. Subtracting that out, we find that Obama increased the Debt by $7.917 Trillion. This was a 68% increase. Part of that was due to mandatory social safety net increases, an increase of the DOD budget, reduced tax revenues from the Great Recession, and a stimulus package aimed at successfully slowing the GR.

OTOH, GW Bush increased the Debt by 101%

LINK


More fake news. For example, Obama collected record tax revenues [/link]

Both you and the Christian News Service are full of shit when you try to pass off $3,248,723,000,000 as tax revenue without parsing it. Half of that is income tax . . . $1.75 Trillion. The rest is mandated payroll taxes for social security and medicare, half of which was matching funds from employers. The president has no control over the mandatory budget or its deficits. The 2009 fiscal year deficit from the Bush budget was $1,413 billion. Obama is leaving with a deficit of $441 billion for his last fiscal year ending September 30, 2017. LINK




vincentML -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 1:25:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

thanks for those earlier figures vincentML saved me having to work it out.

Anyhoos the genius utter nutter is going to save trillions and trillions of dollars, or was he going to spend trillions and trillions of dollars - his speech confused my logic circuits

You be welcome, Wicked. The last business man we had for president was a fellow named Herbert Hoover. Like the current dude Herbert established protectionist policies, signing the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act in 1930. The stock markets fell even further in 1931 and the Recession became the Great Depression. Truth be told, our farmers had been in recession throughout most of the 1920s, losing their lands to the banks. Oh, fuck!!! Sounds familiar, don't it?




WickedsDesire -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 2:22:59 PM)

The loons currently governing our lands said they would balance the books (budget deficit) by 2015...Then by 2020 and then never.....and our national debt (as politicians a many dont know the difference between the two) is obviously still going up...

Why do so few humans understand where the money goes - pyramid scheme - is a nice simple apt analogy and it goes to the capstone(s)...And then the vast wondrous void has to be filled with the normal people, plebs, poor, crushed souls etc and it takes millions to feed one capstone...is this democracy?...something I cannot fully answer.




Hillwilliam -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 4:27:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Did you expect patriotism from the "liberal" who called George W. Bush's debt "unpatriotic"

quote:

Obama Leaves U.S.A $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt

(CNSNews.com) - President Barack Obama will leave the federal government approximately $9,335,000,000,000 deeper in debt than it was when he took office eight years ago, according to data released today by the U.S. Treasury.

The increased debt incurred under Obama equals approximately $75,129 for every person in the United States who had a full-time job in December.

The $9,334,590,089,060.56 that the debt had increased under Obama as of the close of business on Wednesday is far more debt than was accumulated by any previous president. It equals nearly twice as much as the $4,889,100,310,609.44 in additional debt that piled up during the eight years George W. Bush served as president.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-leaves-usa-9335000000000-deeper-debt


Weren't you claiming a different number (much larger) the other day?
Does this mean you were lying then Comrade?




MrRodgers -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/20/2017 5:47:27 PM)

As a percent of GDP:

Presidents:

Republican presidents after Eisenhower have increased the federal debt as a percentage of gross domestic product by a total of 60%.

Democratic presidents have reduced the debt as a percentage of GDP by a total of 9%.

HERE

Party:

On average, the debt has dropped 0.34% relative to gross domestic product during each year when the Democrats have controlled both the legislative and executive branch, it has increased by 1.26% when the Republicans have controlled both, and it has increased by 1.65% when control has been divided.

HERE

Source...US Treasury

You should thank Obama.

He didn't increase the debt as much as repubs normally do and it was the threat to shut down govt. and/or fail to pay the debt service by the repubs that forced a continuation of the Bush 'temporary' [sic] tax cuts that caused Obama to be the only dem pres. to end his 2 terms with an increase in the debt as a percentage of GDP since Ike.

Facts do get in the way of right wing propaganda...don't they ?





bondageerone -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/21/2017 3:34:29 AM)

once your new President gets his hands on the money, he will even drain Fort Knox.
never pay his debtors, never pay his taxes, and probably ruin the country.
OR OF COURSE MAYBE HE WILL DO NOTHING AND BLAME EVERYONE ELSE.
Terri a UK Lesbian. xx have a nice day USA>




bondageerone -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/21/2017 3:36:13 AM)

OMG WD QUITE LUCID FOR A CHANGE. XX




mnottertail -> RE: GEE THANKS BARACK! $9,335,000,000,000 Deeper in Debt (1/21/2017 5:00:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

thanks for those earlier figures vincentML saved me having to work it out.

Anyhoos the genius utter nutter is going to save trillions and trillions of dollars, or was he going to spend trillions and trillions of dollars - his speech confused my logic circuits

You be welcome, Wicked. The last business man we had for president was a fellow named Herbert Hoover. Like the current dude Herbert established protectionist policies, signing the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act in 1930. The stock markets fell even further in 1931 and the Recession became the Great Depression. Truth be told, our farmers had been in recession hroughout most of the 1920s, losing their lands to the banks. Oh, fuck!!! Sounds familiar, don't it?


Harry Truman was a business man. Smoot-Hawley was 8 months after the stock market crash and the depression was well under way. Other than that, Hoover was like a fire department who watched the house burn and said there is nothing we should do, its a good thing, a natural thing, its good for us.




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