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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:11:15 AM   
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That has to be the most pitiful reasoning Ive seen...since obama was sworn in. Supposedly, Obamas humungous crowds were "blacks dont work so of course they could attend, they need to get a job"

Obama got record crowds truly because of black people.
No President in history got 1.8 mil, duh cuz nobody was black before.

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The crowds or lack of them showed just how bad his favour is...
As many people turned up to protest against him the day before, the womens march today will maybe pull more crowds.

We do not know where is his ranking for inauguration crowd yet. He probably beat the two Bushes. Even Hillary wouldn't beat Obama in crowds. Bill Clinton didn't.


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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:13:18 AM   
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surprising, I thought this was gonna be so YUGE an inauguration day, the crowds bigly enormous, nothing like it ever seen....
what happend did obama collapse the metro?



As Keith Olbermann said last night on Real Time, this inauguration was a case of "sitting room only."

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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:15:56 AM   
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That has to be the most pitiful reasoning Ive seen...since obama was sworn in. Supposedly, Obamas humungous crowds were "blacks dont work so of course they could attend, they need to get a job"

Obama got record crowds truly because of black people.
No President in history got 1.8 mil, duh cuz nobody was black before.

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The crowds or lack of them showed just how bad his favour is...
As many people turned up to protest against him the day before, the womens march today will maybe pull more crowds.

We do not know where is his ranking for inauguration crowd yet. He probably beat the two Bushes. Even Hillary wouldn't beat Obama in crowds. Bill Clinton didn't.



Really Greta??

The demographics of Washington are about 47% black people.

Again, you are hallucinating!!

What crap bullshit explanations you have.
You really are delusional.


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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:16:45 AM   
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...the side-by-side images of Friday's ceremony alongside the 2009 inauguration of President Barack Obama show a significantly smaller crowd on the National Mall for Trump than for Obama.
Your assertion of poor people not able to get there is thoroughly debunked.

I don't see how it is debunk. White people may simply choose to just focus on their bread and butter issue and continue to work. Black people, it's once their life time to see a Black President. White people got enough White Presidents, it's not so special.
Comparing a black President turn out to a white President turn out is not a fair comparison. You need to compare how did Trump did against other white Presidents.

Sorry, race plays a part. Especially in the US. Where there is so much slavery baggage. So a black person being President is like a big deal. Just for being black.

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There's a HUGE difference between getting the price reduced and just not paying.

I know for a fact that our government won't pay too for a shitty job done.
I infact know someone who is building something for our government from the US, and he is complaining to me that they have refused to pay due to the completed project not up to their expectation, or "so they say". Obviously my friend thinks they have delivered. It's business. And this US company is seeking legal advice how to get paid. And my government is accusing them of not delivering what's on the contract.

On top of that, I am sure the contracts signed will be very in terms of a lawsuit, be favouring the government and not the contractor. It will be very unreasonable terms.

It's like, that's the way it works. If you want the job, you gotta agree to their terms.

It's business.

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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:19:23 AM   
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surprising, I thought this was gonna be so YUGE an inauguration day, the crowds bigly enormous, nothing like it ever seen....
what happend did obama collapse the metro?



As Keith Olbermann said last night on Real Time, this inauguration was a case of "sitting room only."


I just finished watching it, good show.

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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:21:20 AM   
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Nazi Democrats show up at opposition political rallies to bash heads, this one was no exception

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2017/01/inauguration-coverage-turns-tense-as-tv-channels-pivot-to-protests-233934

Then they brag that old Republican women and Republican families with small children chose to stay home

Probably one of the main reasons why Democrats demand strict gun control. Their mobs would have absolutely nothing to fear if they ever get that


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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:22:53 AM   
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The demographics of Washington are about 47% black people.

So you are saying the only black people who turn up for Obama are only the black people located in Washington. "That made alot of sense!"

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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:28:02 AM   
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The circus peanut isn't as popular as his supporters think he is.

Alot of his voters are working class people located in other states that may not be able to afford to go and attend too though.

Crap, Greta. Pure crap.

According to Wiki: During the workweek, the number of commuters from the suburbs into the city swells the District's population by an estimated 71.8%, to a daytime population of over one million people. The Washington Metropolitan Area, which includes the surrounding counties in Maryland and Virginia, is the eighth-largest in the United States, with more than five million residents. When combined with Baltimore and its suburbs, the Baltimore-Washington Metropolitan Area has a population exceeding eight million residents, the fourth-largest in the country.

The pictures don't lie Greta.

...the side-by-side images of Friday's ceremony alongside the 2009 inauguration of President Barack Obama show a significantly smaller crowd on the National Mall for Trump than for Obama. There is empty ground exposed in the Trump photos. The same spots were almost entirely covered eight years ago, when estimates at the time suggested 1.8 million people attended the inauguration. The images above do not capture people who might have viewed from the west side of the Washington monument. And there are some differences. The grass on the mall is covered in white plastic for Trump's inauguration, but not for Obama's.
The photo of Trump's inauguration was taken from television during his speech — peak time for the crowd.

Note the final comment: The photo of Trump's inauguration was taken from television during his speech — peak time for the crowd.

Your assertion of poor people not able to get there is thoroughly debunked.




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I don't how good of a pay master the US government is. Even in my country, government job payments are horrendous and a nightmare, because they find fault with everything to try to make you reduce your price.

There's a HUGE difference between getting the price reduced and just not paying.
There are many stories of where Trump has just avoided paying his contractors.
Trump says it's all old hat and was years ago.
But there are still many cases that are ongoing - including the case about the Miami golf course.

The man is a fraudster, a charlatan and a shyster. Simple as that.

You need to take your rose-tinted glasses off, Greta.





pictures turn out a lot better if they are taken 'after' an event starts






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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:29:49 AM   
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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:32:07 AM   
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You are spewing more bullshit again.

It doesn't matter what YOUR government do about payment for jobs.
It's what the US companies and government do that matter here.
You can't compare apples and oranges.
And again.... there's a huge difference between getting payment for a job and just not being paid.
Trump has settled lots of claims out of court - he bought them off.
He has something like 3,500 current claims for non-payment.
It has nothing to do with jobs not up to specification; Trump just doesn't pay his bills.


And yes, you can just compare the numbers between Obama and Trump because the demographics are almost half and half black/white.

People didn't turn out for Trump like they did for Obama.
It's as simple as that.
And you can't say it was because of a black president - at least not for his second turn.

If Trump was anywhere near as popular, the white half would have turned out.
Politco shows that Trump won many Washington counties.
Where were his supporters???

Sorry Greta. Your strawman doesn't stand up.

You are sadly very delusional and in denial of the evidence.


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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:33:35 AM   
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The demographics of Washington are about 47% black people.

So you are saying the only black people who turn up for Obama are only the black people located in Washington. "That made alot of sense!"

Show me where I said that.
Oh.... I didn't.
And I didn't imply it either.

Projection much???

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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:34:39 AM   
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The alt left goalpost prior to the inauguration was that NO ONE would show up, they were so confident in their threats of violence

Where did you read that drivel InSanity??



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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:39:30 AM   
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Oh FFS Greta.

You are spewing more bullshit again.


Lets check YOUR facts, angry little man

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He has something like 3,500 current claims for non-payment.


A quick Google search reveals that you are out of your little lizard fucking mind. One source says 12, another (anti-Trump USA Today) says "Hundreds Allege"

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Sorry Greta. Your strawman doesn't stand up.

You are sadly very delusional and in denial of the evidence.


Words that far more accurately apply to you

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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:42:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		..and President Trump has countless businesses and business dealings. That there are a few contractual disagreements, some with pending court cases is unremarkable

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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:43:35 AM   
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such a sore winner...lost his marbles completely

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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:55:26 AM   
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pictures turn out a lot better if they are taken 'after' an event starts

And that's like showing pictures of the from row in a theatre and ignoring that most of the rest of it is only half full.

Where is your comparison??
None, I see.

And historically, the highest numbers are when they make their speech; not after the event starts.
And that's when my comparison pics were taken - at the speech.
Or did you miss that nugget??
So there's goes your half-cocked assertion too!


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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 7:56:26 AM   
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If Trump was anywhere near as popular, the white half would have turned out.

I posted the numbers of previous white Presidents turn up.

Trump's only competition is possibly Clinton who had 800k for his first term, but only 200k for his second term.

So we will see. It might be, Trump might be the white president with the highest turn out. Which makes him pretty popular for a white President.

Really can't say Trump is not popular if he is pretty much doing better than previous White Presidents right?

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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 8:09:24 AM   
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A quick Google search reveals that you are out of your little lizard fucking mind. One source says 12, another (anti-Trump USA Today) says "Hundreds Allege"

Ok. My bad.
It says: ...he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades.

It also says: ...At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings... Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs...
Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage, according to U.S. Department of Labor data.
In addition to the lawsuits, the review found more than 200 mechanic’s liens — filed by contractors and employees against Trump, his companies or his properties claiming they were owed money for their work — since the 1980s.
On just one project, Trump’s Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, records released by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission in 1990 show that at least 253 subcontractors weren’t paid in full or on time, including workers who installed walls, chandeliers and plumbing.

The actions in total paint a portrait of Trump’s sprawling organization frequently failing to pay small businesses and individuals, then sometimes tying them up in court and other negotiations for years. In some cases, the Trump teams financially overpower and outlast much smaller opponents, draining their resources. Some just give up the fight, or settle for less; some have ended up in bankruptcy or out of business altogether.

And all that from the same source that you are quoting.

12??? It seems a tad more than a dozen to me.
Says a lot doesn't it.


Oh, I'm not angry at all.
I'm laughing hysterically at the right-wing idiots trying to justify the shit weasel's low numbers.


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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 8:11:59 AM   
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it was in his dreams
such a sore winner...lost his marbles completely


You are both total idiots

You've already forgotten the thread, Trump inauguration boycott escalates who will attend? and all of the rest of YOU OWN smack talk right here



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RE: No Empty Seats - 1/21/2017 8:16:49 AM   
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If Trump was anywhere near as popular, the white half would have turned out.

I posted the numbers of previous white Presidents turn up.

Trump's only competition is possibly Clinton who had 800k for his first term, but only 200k for his second term.

So we will see. It might be, Trump might be the white president with the highest turn out. Which makes him pretty popular for a white President.

Really can't say Trump is not popular if he is pretty much doing better than previous White Presidents right?

Sorry Greta.
In a demographic that's almost 50/50, race or colour doesn't come into it.
The pics don't lie.
And many media outlets have said that this is the lowest turnout for an inauguration event.
Previous white presidents' numbers are so very old and technology wasn't as it is now.
You can't just compare white presidents.

If, as you are asserting, that Trump is comparable, then Obama's turnout would be in line with the general curve of numbers.
Trump's is about half of Obama's and the empty areas in the pics just show the difference.
You want to blame everything/everyone else except for the truth of it.
You are in denial.


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