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mnottertail -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/20/2017 2:57:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Are you using chrome or safari?

'Coz that's one of the main reasons I dumped chrome.
Chrome worked for most sites, but not all; CS was one of the casualties.
There are some sites where chrome just craps out completely or renders it soo badly that it makes the site unreadable/unusable.

ETA: Ghostery is just another blocker application.
It blocks the site when it recognises what is coming into your machine.
It doesn't stop it resolving the URL within the DNS and access to the site itself like the hosts file does.

And, fwiw, having too many apps running (and often fighting each other or passing from one app to the next like a pipeline) can be just as detrimental as not having any apps in the first place.
Just like all those crappy so-called browser helpers and add-ons.
Every single one you have running will have your data packets passed thru them to see if they want to act on it.
Keep add-ons to a bare minimum.
Most people don't need more than one app doing the same job - it just slows your machine down.
Use the KISS principal; minimal apps and taskbar monitors running.


Yes I am. But wait. several points to be made. Bad code, this site. Period. 2 the hosts file does not block google-analytics nor anything else, since they make it all the way to the browser app.

That is quite a way up the stack.

I realize I dont, I have several computers. xp, 7, 10....8s were such dogshit I couldnt even. in all cases, the site hangs.
its the site, and the hosts trick (I see it out there on google) obviously does not work.

So, we are back to hopefully after about a year of this going on so far, the dogshit code will be fixed sometime in the next 10 years.



Kirata -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/20/2017 4:48:36 PM)


I'm only experiencing issues with the main P&R page. Posts come up fine, no matter where they're linked, whether from within other posts, the Search function, or the "Latest Post" link on the main P&R page. But getting the main page can be frustrating. I usually draw a blank a few times, occasionally quite a bit more than a few, before it finally loads. And when it comes up blank, even "View Source" comes up blank! Also, it continues to be the case that the link to P&R on the main Forums page is different from the P&R links at the top and bottom of each of the pages within a topic. Go figure.

Edited to add: Windows 7 and Firefox 50.1.0

K.







Real0ne -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/20/2017 6:11:23 PM)

its the site not anyones computer or operating system:

Page size
85.6 kB

Requests
34

Wait
tt.htm www.collarchat.com/forumid_63/ 10.3 kB

Load time
22.36 s

Ok I am getting an average time to load tt.htm www.collarchat.com/forumid_63/ which is: Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion

of roughly 30 seconds average, compared with the threads which averages less than a second



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/20/2017 9:39:32 PM)

Ron, the hosts file, if done correctly, effectively blocks the site.
It does that by telling windows to resolve it locally within the DNS rather than go look for it on the 'net.

Yes, the browser app asks for it (that's where the request is initiated from) but it never looks outside your own machine for it, never on the 'net.
It doesn't go to the browser, it's a request from the browser to load the requested page from the HTML/script it is processing at the time (the site you are using).
So unless you have that site's whole web, it's structure and supporting code on your machine (not just the web page), it will always fail to find it.

In my case, those sites I have listed in my hosts file never ever load.
I always get the message "Cannot access the requested site. The site could be down or it could be busy. Check you have typed the correct address" etc etc.
Even if I type the actual address into the address bar directly - it never finds it.
So when I'm surfing, I'll see failed areas in web pages (where it can't find the web page/advert it wants) or I get pop-up/pop-under windows with the failed access message because the script creates the new window then can't reach the site it wants.

If you are finding it is resolving the address and getting to the site, it's either defined incorrectly in the hosts file or you haven't rebooted since you added it.
Windows only loads it once at boot time.


Yes, this site has bad code. I'm not disputing that fact.
Some of it looks like it's been coded by a 6yo from kindergarden.
It's old, very old. It's very rickety. It's been patched to hell and back. It's badly maintained (if at all).
But I get around the crazy problems it generates by not allowing it to access the two main things that are the root cause of them - the bad implementation of the Bing advert and Google-analytics which are inherently slow.

Just like the way they've implemented the cloud access with this site.
It works for most people most of the time and with most browsers, even via a VPN, but not if you use the Tor browser - it doesn't behave properly and often fails or gets stuck.

I do get the odd hiccup from CS where cloud tells me CS is busy and couldn't connect (that [in]famous Error 522/523 or a timeout).
I think I caught it once when CS was down for maintenance for a couple of hours.
But I can count those on one hand for the whole of 2016.


Kirata made a couple of observations further up.
1) And when it comes up blank, even "View Source" comes up blank!
That's more likely that your page request has completely failed.
Chrome does that a lot with me.
You'll also get that if the request never reached its target and that often happens when the data packet gets lost en-route - a common problem with wireless connections.
Basically, your browser is waiting for a response.

2) Also, it continues to be the case that the link to P&R on the main Forums page is different from the P&R links at the top and bottom of each of the pages within a topic. Go figure.
This is simply bad coding on the part of the site.
It's basic inconsistency when setting it up.
The sort of thing I'd get fired for if I did it as part of my job.
It's the sort of mistake that just 'happens to work'.
If anything moves within the structure of the site, it'll break it and it won't work any more.
I suspect that is the problem with some of the features that used to work on here but don't any more.
They moved something on the server [a folder or set of files] and it broke the functionality.



WickedsDesire -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/20/2017 10:07:20 PM)

Your load time is a bit long R1 for Tis I cocklord thrashing you with my soup ladle to keep you ratbastards out of here - you are correct (joke okay didn’t offend you?)..idiots are aplenty here…Why, I myself decrease my load time by putting my pc into a wheel barrow and running abut in circles screaming send me the titty pictures women – heh are there actually women on this place who hunger for cock? nah

Now, my boredom aside.
I want to be clear about this.
The owner of this place does not give a flying fuk about any of you regulars…. what you pussies going to do about it?

1 Exception Nookie tried...oh she has her own place called https://www.datingkinky.com/ and she promised me a bar of gold for any of you dimwits that cross over (thats a joke)
2. OG too

Why do I come here? Basically to talk to myself - i have said that plenty of times...but I have grown fond of some of you regulars, well the ones who make me smile and think.

But i will tell you this
I am 47...so i have been around a very long time and remember origins and used to mod/own a long time ago.
And She (shes hot hehehe-what) is the only person/site that took time to answer many/all of my questions, even my rambles – all of those too.

Do you know how many fet answered 0% - still saddens me that..it cost me lots of bans & my friends banned....and i was the only person on there who forewarned them...I think they are trying to get there, or somewhere - that kinda escapes me.

But this place does not give a shag about any of you and that is truly worse...i told you...the forums on here...one day this site will simple just vanish


Cooeee owner u about (never) ever



Real0ne -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/21/2017 2:18:53 PM)

btw, recognised a couple of annoyances I have but too lazy to add to the file as they occur, that made it handy, thanks for the list. [:D]
didnt change their lag issues however.



vincentML -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/21/2017 6:18:27 PM)

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Do you know how many fet answered 0% - still saddens me that..it cost me lots of bans & my friends banned....and i was the only person on there who forewarned them...I think they are trying to get there, or somewhere - that kinda escapes me.

Wicked! Fet is having CC problems and so has disappeared "objectionable" groups. Pffttt . . . .



LadyPact -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/22/2017 9:30:15 AM)

It's a shame that I let Christmas go by and missed the opportunity to buy you some toilet paper for a present. I figure, it will be useful. Nobody can be full of sh^t for so long without having a massive dump as a part of their future.
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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
heh are there actually women on this place who hunger for cock? nah

Dude, it ain't that there aren't women here. It's not even that there aren't sex positive women here. There's always going to be a difference between people who are interested in sex but just aren't interested in sex with you. That's not even a personal jab. There are just as many people who aren't interested in hopping in the sack with me, either.

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Now, my boredom aside.
I want to be clear about this.
The owner of this place does not give a flying fuk about any of you regulars…. what you pussies going to do about it?

This part, I actually do agree with. Whether anybody likes it or not, this place is a business. It sounds cold-hearted, but that means the business is the priority. I'd have probably been a little more generous to certain individuals that I know worked their tails off for the place, but other than that... Meh.

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1 Exception Nookie tried...oh she has her own place called https://www.datingkinky.com/ and she promised me a bar of gold for any of you dimwits that cross over (thats a joke)
2. OG too

I almost said this on the other thread. (Got busy, yadda, yadda.) Truthfully, this would be a great time for a new site to capitalize on people being unhappy with the slow loading times, etc. I'm not going to be one of the folks that crosses over. My 'dating' life is pretty full, so I'm not in the 'seeking' category. I actually don't entertain the idea of a second sub when the one I have has a romantic component to the dynamic. I'm a 'there are only so many hours in a day' kind of person.

quote:

Why do I come here? Basically to talk to myself - i have said that plenty of times...but I have grown fond of some of you regulars, well the ones who make me smile and think.

I have no problem not being in that category.

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But i will tell you this
I am 47...so i have been around a very long time and remember origins and used to mod/own a long time ago.
And She (shes hot hehehe-what) is the only person/site that took time to answer many/all of my questions, even my rambles – all of those too.

Nookie is actually rather good at answering everyone, whether they are off their nut or not. Hey, if I were a published author, I'd probably have that policy, too.

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Do you know how many fet answered 0% - still saddens me that..it cost me lots of bans & my friends banned....and i was the only person on there who forewarned them...I think they are trying to get there, or somewhere - that kinda escapes me.

This is where the bullsh^t gets too deep for my liking.

In my opinion, you should stop trying to imply that you are some kind of wounded sheep. If you were banned from Fet prior, or had dealings with the CareBears that didn't go in your favor, it's not the current state of affairs. I've seen you post on the site on threads such as the 'invite only' discussion, people who have added you as a friend, etc. You aren't the downtrodden victim you proclaim yourself to be.

For what it's worth, you also aren't some kind of martyr, leading the charge against rape, consent violations, or any other thing. You sure as sh^t weren't "the only person who warned them" or any other crap that you are trying to convince yourself or others that you did. There's a piece on K&P right now about one of the guys who did. Last week, another by a guy who fought for a year to get the victims through the court ordeal. Didn't see you boycotting events that allowed known consent violators to present. That so-called photographer that you have over there? Yeah, you did so much about it.

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But this place does not give a shag about any of you and that is truly worse...i told you...the forums on here...one day this site will simple just vanish


Cooeee owner u about (never) ever

I don't know what gibberish that was at the end. Guess I'm just too much of a country gal to understand other dialects.

Could be wrong, but I do think this site has one foot in the grave. Won't be the first site. Won't be the last.

Now, I've given you the attention that you seem to crave. I'm very tempted to tell you to run along like a good boy. Isn't it wonderful for you that I'm nicer than that?



WickedsDesire -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/22/2017 11:24:22 AM)

VincentML I was actually fine with that – money eh! I loved when some of the depravity were whining at the loss of their forums; where they sought to entice the vulnerable

Many of the groups were set up by people with their own agenda...not that they have dealt with that issue. But when that happens you will have something called a distillate or concentrate, lacking integrity and propagating their own agenda, or do you disagree - ladypact as for the rest of what you said I simply do not understand blithering sophisms and idiocy…been down that road with you before. I am neither wounded, nor a sheep. I am in the man in slippers with 3 cats – fine with that myself liar (so many eh! I lost count a long time ago with you)….their systems and all partakers refused to make our conversations public s their own TOC allowed. Now, you know I said that many a time before

And it was actually I, on here, who said a long time ago one day this site will simply cease to be, not you, with your half foot malarkey.

The other bit concerns me what is K&P – seen that crop up a few times before and I have no idea what it is :)

Nookies place – do not let me see you do a wee bitch remark about her again.

Now K&P? :)



kdsub -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/22/2017 12:38:17 PM)

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This part, I actually do agree with. Whether anybody likes it or not, this place is a business. It sounds cold-hearted, but that means the business is the priority.


LadyPact... if they don't fix this I don't think they will have much business.

Butch



mnottertail -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/22/2017 1:06:10 PM)

and regarding the blank page and source? happens wired, happens on IE.



LadyPact -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/22/2017 1:11:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
VincentML I was actually fine with that – money eh! I loved when some of the depravity were whining at the loss of their forums; where they sought to entice the vulnerable

Many of the groups were set up by people with their own agenda...not that they have dealt with that issue. But when that happens you will have something called a distillate or concentrate, lacking integrity and propagating their own agenda, or do you disagree - ladypact

I agree with some of it.

Let's say, hypothetically, that you owned a club or were the organizer for a multiple day convention. To promote such, it makes perfect sense to create a Fet group to promote the same. Depending on the view, that could be described as promoting their own agenda.

I don't see these as the same as groups set up by the likes of T**_W*** or M***M****. (Hope I did that right.) I consider these completely different categories.

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as for the rest of what you said I simply do not understand blithering sophisms and idiocy…been down that road with you before. I am neither wounded, nor a sheep. I am in the man in slippers with 3 cats – fine with that myself liar (so many eh! I lost count a long time ago with you)….their systems and all partakers refused to make our conversations public s their own TOC allowed. Now, you know I said that many a time before

Maybe you need a fourth cat. [8D]

Got news for ya. They are under no requirement to make your conversations "public" and I can tell you right now, if such a job was paying my mortgage, I'd be sticking to the privacy policy that I agreed to. In fact, I would suggest that you read their TOU again.

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And it was actually I, on here, who said a long time ago one day this site will simply cease to be, not you, with your half foot malarkey.

Dude, I think you're beyond hope.

You should go back to that tripe about how I'm not female. It was vastly more entertaining.

Wait. Did you think I was a gay male Dom with a male stalker? If you were *that* stupid, it would be funny as hell.

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The other bit concerns me what is K&P – seen that crop up a few times before and I have no idea what it is :)

Stands for "Kinky & Popular". While I wouldn't say it's fully fabulous, it's a good place to read about certain legal cases. You might have to sort through the jeweled butt plug crowd and those who think videos of women sucking a cock is a kink. When you dust all of that off, you might read some interesting stuff.

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Nookies place – do not let me see you do a wee bitch remark about her again.

I said nothing of the sort. F^ck, if I were a published writer, I'd manage my time differently, too. I happen to think she's a talented writer, so you can take that false offense and cram it.





LadyPact -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/22/2017 1:24:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub
LadyPact... if they don't fix this I don't think they will have much business.

Butch

Butch,

My apologies. I should have addressed you first.

This is exactly why I think a competitor site could take advantage of this. Fewer and fewer people aren't coming here for this very reason. They try to log on and end up sitting waiting on load time. Why wait when there are other options?



WickedsDesire -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/22/2017 1:39:34 PM)

I dont have time ladypact or the will to repeat myself over and over again or quote your guff about what i didnt actually say - would you like me to?...LP

One day this place will not be here and i can assure you that day is soon upon us...by us I mean all us regulars...anyone diagree?

i give it 1 year
2 at the most

LP not picking on you how long do you give it?



LadyPact -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/22/2017 1:59:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
I dont have time ladypact or the will to repeat myself over and over again or quote your guff about what i didnt actually say - would you like me to?...LP

One day this place will not be here and i can assure you that day is soon upon us...by us I mean all us regulars...anyone diagree?

i give it 1 year
2 at the most

LP not picking on you how long do you give it?

The optimist in me wants to say one year to two. The business sense of me says roughly six months.

As I said on the other thread, the fact that the site is supposedly losing money now, is new information to me. If that is correct, that's only going to go on for so long. I think E*** banked on that "toy" tab increasing revenue. I'm thinking it didn't. Not to the degree needed. Granted, I haven't had an in-depth conversation about the financials of the joint since over a year ago.

Don't know. We'll see. I probably won't be around until the site's last breath.





WickedsDesire -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/22/2017 2:53:18 PM)

Ladypact I dont actually know the man (its really hard for me to comment on excited utterances- truly) - my cost (to any site - yes i offered it to fet x many epochs- he chose to surround himself with many hobgoblins) is one muffin, for I have time on my hands, and i can assure you I can be 100% impartial and 100% sensible (honest) and I dont hate the English ;) dont tell anyone....

ladypact - I am bereft of cash so I could not approach this sites owner. But I am long the record as saying there is enough of a collective - you are British you do remember what happened to IC?


i asked 3 people on this site along time ago could they help me out with a server...and time - nope

6 months..fair assessment he will get to 1- 2 years....I feel

as for nookie - she knows what i think. And i ask a lot of questions and i can assure you we disagree on a few things from 1000...you have no idea the volume of questions I truly ask...and that one replied to everyone




LadyPact -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/22/2017 9:16:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
Ladypact I dont actually know the man (its really hard for me to comment on excited utterances- truly) - my cost (to any site - yes i offered it to fet x many epochs- he chose to surround himself with many hobgoblins) is one muffin, for I have time on my hands, and i can assure you I can be 100% impartial and 100% sensible (honest) and I dont hate the English ;) dont tell anyone....

ladypact - I am bereft of cash so I could not approach this sites owner. But I am long the record as saying there is enough of a collective - you are British you do remember what happened to IC?


i asked 3 people on this site along time ago could they help me out with a server...and time - nope

6 months..fair assessment he will get to 1- 2 years....I feel

as for nookie - she knows what i think. And i ask a lot of questions and i can assure you we disagree on a few things from 1000...you have no idea the volume of questions I truly ask...and that one replied to everyone

I think you've made a mistake in the above. At least a part of those comments, I believe, should have been directed at Lucy. She's the Brit. I'm not. I'm what is known as a good, old-fashioned, small town American hick. If you're curious, there's a difference between a hick and a redneck. Try that thread sometime. It will be hilarious.

To correct you further, I was never on Informed Consent. I did hear really great things about it. I've mentioned that I thought it was a shame for the folks in the UK when it shut down. A lot of people had nothing but good to say about the place.




NookieNotes -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/23/2017 4:57:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
quote:

But i will tell you this
I am 47...so i have been around a very long time and remember origins and used to mod/own a long time ago.
And She (shes hot hehehe-what) is the only person/site that took time to answer many/all of my questions, even my rambles – all of those too.

Nookie is actually rather good at answering everyone, whether they are off their nut or not. Hey, if I were a published author, I'd probably have that policy, too.


To be fair, that's always been my policy: To reply. For me, it's the right thing to do. My authorship came long after that policy.

That said, I don't continue to reply to everyone.

*smiles*



LadyPact -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/23/2017 9:39:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
To be fair, that's always been my policy: To reply. For me, it's the right thing to do. My authorship came long after that policy.

That said, I don't continue to reply to everyone.

*smiles*

Ah, didn't know your personal policy had changed. None of my business, of course, but did it end up being a time thing? No matter what a person does for a living, even when their occupation lets them be more time flexible, there's still only so many hours in a day.




NookieNotes -> RE: Am I alone with problems with Collarchat? (1/23/2017 10:41:37 AM)

Perhaps I was not clear. I respond to everyone. And it does take time, but again, that's how I see right. I am here, I enjoy the many contacts I make, I give back and reply, even if it's, "No, thank you."

I don't continue to reply to everyone. Some are just not worth it, so I say, "No, thank you. I won't reply again."

I was just saying that my reply policy has always been the same, and it was much later that I chose to also write, because I felt I had things to give back, and eventually, I chose to develop as well, for similar reasons.

*smiles*



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