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Musicmystery -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 12:34:55 PM)

And proven that Trump can't even compete with street vendors.



BoscoX -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 12:35:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
There are more legit and approved sellers than just the internet site.
Fucking idiot.



No, moron, I have proven that the genuine article is American made


No, you haven't proved anything of the sort.
All you have done is post a link to Trump's online rip-off shop.



Keep posting, please. Never stop. You preferred Hillary, right?



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 12:37:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Keep posting, please. Never stop. You preferred Hillary, right?

Ummmm..... Nope.

Wrong assumption. As always.



BoscoX -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 12:41:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And proven that Trump can't even compete with street vendors.


Street vendors accessing the floods of cheap imports that President Trump campaigned against, verses his American made product proves his point

You and Reuters breathlessly lying about where President Trump got his hats is the more relevant and entertaining point here

More fake news. Reuters can't be believed either, right up there with fake news outlets such as NPR and the Onion, the NYT and Buzzfeed and NBC etc




Musicmystery -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 12:42:37 PM)

Proves his point? He can't even sell them.

Losing to street vendors. He's going to take on China?

Sad.



BoscoX -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 12:47:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Proves his point? He can't even sell them.

Losing to street vendors. He's going to take on China?

Sad.


Where do you get the lie that he can't sell them, I am sure he sold a lot of them. What was he supposed to do to stop street vendors from making a buck. The more important and realistic question is, why is Reuters pushing fake news, and why aren't you ashamed that you repeated their lie

Just apologize for spreading lies, just like you you might if you were an adult already.



BoscoX -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 12:49:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Keep posting, please. Never stop. You preferred Hillary, right?

Ummmm..... Nope.

Wrong assumption. As always.



But you are unhinged that she lost. Explain that



Musicmystery -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 12:50:56 PM)

I used to market for wholesalers. Those vendors would have had my product.

Trump can't bring his hats to market -- and his supporters don't even know HOW to buy American! Losers.

Can't fill seats at an event . . . hell, I've done that for years.

Mr. bankrupt businesses is going to improve the economy?

Can't even manage wholesale/retail.

Sad.



BoscoX -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 12:53:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I used to market for wholesalers. Those vendors would have had my product.

Trump can't bring his hats to market -- and his supporters don't even know HOW to buy American! Losers.

Can't fill seats at an event . . . hell, I've done that for years.

Mr. bankrupt businesses is going to improve the economy?

Can't even manage wholesale/retail.

Sad.


No one stops street vendors from selling knockoffs

Just more lies, and now trying to change the subject.

Sad.





freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 12:55:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Keep posting, please. Never stop. You preferred Hillary, right?

Ummmm..... Nope.

Wrong assumption. As always.



But you are unhinged that she lost. Explain that

Really???
Where did you invent that gem of lies from?

I'm not a HRC supporter at all.
So nothing to explain.

Not unhinged. No.

Sorry, no cigar again.



Musicmystery -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 12:58:38 PM)

Even Snopes acknowledges the reality of Trump's business failures:

(Note that in many of these cases, Trump was forced out or forced to reduce his stake before the business could get favorable terms)


Trump Has Several Business Bankruptcies on His Record

Trump-controlled businesses have sought bankruptcy protection several times after those entities — nearly all of them casino properties — were several hundreds of millions of dollars or more in debt (although the exact number of bankruptcies tied to Trump is debatable, as his spokespeople routinely disclaim that "many of the filings occurred when Trump was no longer involved in the businesses"):

#1) Trump Taj Mahal (1991): The Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City opened in 1990, with Trump financing the completion of its construction with $675 million in junk bonds at 14% interest. By the following year the casino itself was in debt to the tune of $3 billion, while Trump himself owed some $900 million in personal liabilities.

In order to keep the Taj Mahal afloat, Trump struck a deal with his lenders in which he gave up half his ownership share and equity in the casino, sold his Trump Shuttle airline and his Trump Princess 220-foot yacht, and agreed to a bank-set limit on his personal spending in exchange for a lower interest rate and additional time to make his loan payments.

#2 and #3) Trump's Castle and Trump Plaza Casinos (1992): Less than a year after the Taj Mahal bankruptcy Trump filed for Chapter 11 protection again for two more Atlantic City hotel-casinos, the Trump Plaza and Trump's Castle, over their inability to make principal and interest payments on bonds. The Plaza ($550 million in debt) and the Castle ($338 million in debt) were competing against each other, as well as against the Taj Mahal, and Trump gave up a 50% share in exchange for more favorable terms on the debts.

#4) Trump Plaza Hotel (1992): Donald Trump filed for bankruptcy protection a third time in 1992 over the Trump Plaza Hotel on New York's famous Fifth Avenue, overlooking Central Park in midtown Manhattan. Once again, Trump gave up a 49% stake in the property to secure more favorable terms from lenders on the luxury hotel's debt of more than $550 million.

#5) Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts (2004): In 1995, Donald Trump established Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts as a publicly traded company, an entity that eventually consolidated his three Atlantic City casinos (Trump Taj Mahal, Trump Castle, and Trump Plaza), along with other properties, under one company. In 2004, Trump sought Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection for the company, with filings listing about $1.8 billion in debt. Yet again, Trump's ownership in the business was reduced, from 47% to 27%, in order to obtain more favorable terms from lenders.

#6) Trump Entertainment Resorts (2009): After its 2004 bankruptcy, Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts was renamed Trump Entertainment Resorts (TER), and that latter entity went Chapter 11 in 2009 with a debt of $1.2 billion. Trump fought with his board of directors over how to restructure the company and ended up reducing his ownership share of the business once again (to 10%) and resigning as chairman of the board.
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TER sold off the former Trump's Castle (by then renamed the Trump Marina) to Landry's in 2011, who rebranded it as the Golden Nugget Atlantic City. In 2014, Trump filed a lawsuit to bar the continued use of his name on TER's remaining Atlantic City casinos, the Trump Plaza and the Trump Taj Mahal, holding that "the license entities have allowed the casino properties to fall into an utter state of disrepair and have otherwise failed to operate and manage the casino properties in accordance with the high standards of quality and luxury required under the license agreement." Shortly afterwards, TER declared bankruptcy yet again and closed the Trump Plaza casino for good. The Trump Taj Mahal remained with TER, which became a subsidiary of Icahn Enterprises upon emerging from bankruptcy protection in 2016.
Other Trump Business Failures

As well, Donald Trump has undertaken a number of business projects that ultimately failed (or failed to live up to his lofty projections) without resulting in bankrupcties, including:

Trump Steaks
GoTrump (online travel site)
Trump Airlines
Trump Vodka
Trump Mortgage
Trump: The Game
Trump Magazine
Trump University
Trump Ice (bottled water)
The New Jersey Generals (pro football team)
Tour de Trump (bicycle race)
Trump Network (nutritional supplements)
Trumped! (syndicated radio spot)



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 12:59:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

No one stops street vendors from selling knockoffs

Just more lies, and now trying to change the subject.

Sad.

Explain all the other non-street vendors selling these Trump hats then.

Are they ALL buying illicit Asian copies?? I doubt it.
Trump's PR teams would have shut them down if they weren't otherwise 'approved'.




Musicmystery -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 1:05:48 PM)

It's a pattern. In 2011, he was taken to task over this. Not exactly Mr. America here, and not a friend of American companies.

Donald Trump Gear Is Often Made in China

Visitors to the Trump Store in the lobby of the Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue in New York City, or to the displays of Trump clothing at Macy's in New York's Herald Square, would be hard-pressed to find much labeled "Made in the U.S.A."

At the same time Trump was speaking in New Hampshire, his Trump Store was contributing to the growth of Chinese manufacturing, arguably at the expense of American workers, selling $80 Trump-branded cotton sweaters and $70 Trump-branded warm-up tops, all made in China. Also available with the made in China tag: golf hats stamped with the Trump crest and stuffed animals.

Visitors also could buy leather made-in-China belts priced at $45 that are advertised as "So soft, it feels like a million bucks." And in the display case were neat stacks of colorful Trump-branded polo shirts that would be perfect wear for one of Trump's golf courses. The shirts, which sell for $70, were not made in China, but nearby, in Korea and Thailand.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-admits-gear-made-china-labels/story?id=13472355



BoscoX -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 1:06:25 PM)

It is SO impressive, that you move so easily from one lie to the next

Just like Barack and Hillary do

From a link that Kirata provided on another thread:

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This is yet another example of people who have never tried something judging those who have actually done it. I’ve been an entrepreneur my whole life. You’re pretty much looking at 12 failures for every successful venture. When you run hundreds of businesses, bankruptcies are an inevitability.

Also, lots of companies took advantage of bankruptcy laws in the 1990s. This was a problem with the system and its roots are in government intervention. It’s like the real estate collapse. Yes, Wall Streeters took advantage of the collapse, but that money was just sitting on the floor. It was sitting there because big government decided every black and Hispanic person in the country deserved a mortgage.

http://takimag.com/article/top_10_trump_myths_gavin_mcinnes/print#ixzz4WQrm77HS



Musicmystery -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 1:10:38 PM)

Sure. Lots of people have tried and failed.

And their savior is just another multi-failure.

Sad.



BoscoX -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 1:13:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

It's a pattern. In 2011, he was taken to task over this. Not exactly Mr. America here, and not a friend of American companies.

Donald Trump Gear Is Often Made in China

Visitors to the Trump Store in the lobby of the Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue in New York City, or to the displays of Trump clothing at Macy's in New York's Herald Square, would be hard-pressed to find much labeled "Made in the U.S.A."

At the same time Trump was speaking in New Hampshire, his Trump Store was contributing to the growth of Chinese manufacturing, arguably at the expense of American workers, selling $80 Trump-branded cotton sweaters and $70 Trump-branded warm-up tops, all made in China. Also available with the made in China tag: golf hats stamped with the Trump crest and stuffed animals.

Visitors also could buy leather made-in-China belts priced at $45 that are advertised as "So soft, it feels like a million bucks." And in the display case were neat stacks of colorful Trump-branded polo shirts that would be perfect wear for one of Trump's golf courses. The shirts, which sell for $70, were not made in China, but nearby, in Korea and Thailand.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-admits-gear-made-china-labels/story?id=13472355


You totally edited out your post with completely different copy & paste...

Again, from Kirata's link:

(4) TRUMP’S A HYPOCRITE BECAUSE CHINA MANUFACTURED HIS TIES
The same answer applies to this question. When everyone is cheating, to play by the rules is to lose. I made action figures for my old company many years ago and was determined to make them in America. I quickly learned this wouldn’t just make them expensive, it would make them so expensive we couldn’t do the project. That’s the world we are living in. It’s not a fantasy and it’s not based on what you would like to happen. Trump wants to get us to the point where we don’t have to outsource manufacturing to stay not just competitive, but in business.

http://takimag.com/article/top_10_trump_myths_gavin_mcinnes/print#ixzz4WQuBOr00



BoscoX -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 1:15:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Sure. Lots of people have tried and failed.

And their savior is just another multi-failure.

Sad.


Who turned an initial 44 million into billions

Everyone might wish to "fail" just like President Trump did [:D]



Musicmystery -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 1:18:41 PM)

Selling goods from China.

The hat business isn't hard, btw. Buy 'em for $2. Trump sold them for $40.

And he still couldn't compete with street vendors. Loser.

No wonder the seats were empty. Sad.

And his supporters don't seem to give a fuck where stuff is manufactured.

No hypocrisy there.




igor2003 -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 1:22:40 PM)

--FR--

One night before the election Comrade Trump was on Jimmy Kimmel's show. Kimmel first asked Trump where his suit was made. Trump replied that he "didn't know". Talk turned to Trump's "nice" tie. Of course Trump bragged up his tie. So Kimmel asked where the tie was made. Trump turned his tie around to show the tag. The camera zooms in, and right there for the world to see, the tag said "Made in China".

Of course some people here will try to spin the tale and say that somehow it wasn't an "official" Trump tie.



BoscoX -> RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! (1/21/2017 1:25:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Selling goods from China.

The hat business isn't hard, btw. Buy 'em for $2. Trump sold them for $40.

And he still couldn't compete with street vendors. Loser.

Sad.

And his supporters don't seem to give a fuck where stuff is manufactured.




YOU don't care that you spread the Reuters lie (authentic Trump hats are $25.00, and are American made). Then, crying your snake tears call others "sad"

Funny. You're another one who I hope keep your bizarre unhinged rants going

If we didn't care where things are made we would have voted for your globalist cabal. Everyone is conditioned to ignore tags, as American made is almost impossible to find

So people have just given up

Just like job seekers under Obama have given up trying to find work







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