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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 2:38:04 PM   
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More fake news

Because he points out that the rules strongly encourage outsourcing and need to be renegotiated, he is supposed to try to compete in that same way that he has pointed out is fruitless

Your Alinsky BS is so last eight years


Yet he stands on a platform, and a slogan of: "buy American and hire American."

What a fucking hypocrite!!!




How's that ? The ones he sells are made here.

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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 2:43:01 PM   
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You will never get it, I get that

But its fun poking you feral jackasses nevertheless

I'm not feral.
And we're not talking about what the shit weasel is promising either.
Talk about shifting the goalposts when you're called out!

I do get it.
You're claiming the news reports are fake on outsourced goods - including the hats.
We're calling your claims to be bullshit.
Apart from posting the Trump official website link, you can't prove what you claim isn't bullshit.

Fun watching you wriggle and squirm and moving the goalposts coz you're spewing crap.


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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 2:47:56 PM   
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More fake news

Because he points out that the rules strongly encourage outsourcing and need to be renegotiated, he is supposed to try to compete in that same way that he has pointed out is fruitless

Your Alinsky BS is so last eight years


Yet he stands on a platform, and a slogan of: "buy American and hire American."

What a fucking hypocrite!!!




How's that ? The ones he sells are made here.

T^T

That may be true - but only ones from the online shop.

The ones he sells from his own hotel lobbies and other retail outlets are made in Asia, Bangladesh, India, Turkey, and other non-US countries.

So... not "The ones he sells..", only what he sells from his online campaign shop.


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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 2:50:21 PM   
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You will never get it, I get that

But its fun poking you feral jackasses nevertheless

I'm not feral.
And we're not talking about what the shit weasel is promising either.
Talk about shifting the goalposts when you're called out!

I do get it.
You're claiming the news reports are fake on outsourced goods - including the hats.
We're calling your claims to be bullshit.
Apart from posting the Trump official website link, you can't prove what you claim isn't bullshit.

Fun watching you wriggle and squirm and moving the goalposts coz you're spewing crap.



You make even less sense than usual in that post

The thread is about another fake news article, this one with a headline screaming that President Trump's "Great Again" hats are made overseas

Which is a demonstrated lie

https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/official-donald-trump-make-america-great-again-cap-red?variant=26118358278

What are you going on about?

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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 2:53:23 PM   
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That may be true - but only ones from the online shop.

The ones he sells from his own hotel lobbies and other retail outlets are made in Asia, Bangladesh, India, Turkey, and other non-US countries.

So... not "The ones he sells..", only what he sells from his online campaign shop.



Other items perhaps, but not the hats. Which is what the thread is about. Until I proved it, and you and MM had to start moving the goalposts, because you were caught hyperventilating over fake Reuters news



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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 2:53:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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More fake news

Because he points out that the rules strongly encourage outsourcing and need to be renegotiated, he is supposed to try to compete in that same way that he has pointed out is fruitless

Your Alinsky BS is so last eight years


Yet he stands on a platform, and a slogan of: "buy American and hire American."

What a fucking hypocrite!!!




How's that ? The ones he sells are made here.

T^T

That may be true - but only ones from the online shop.

The ones he sells from his own hotel lobbies and other retail outlets are made in Asia, Bangladesh, India, Turkey, and other non-US countries.

So... not "The ones he sells..", only what he sells from his online campaign shop.



Funny, I moved my cursor over every word you added and did not find anything clickable.

T^T

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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 2:59:20 PM   
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Funny, I moved my cursor over every word you added and did not find anything clickable.

T^T


Someone posted a link above, ABC had a hit piece that made the "horrific shocking" discovery that some items sold in Trump Tower gift shop were made overseas

As if you can easily find things that are made in America these days

Trump's point though, is exactly that - it is hard to find things that are made in America.

Has Hillary or Obama or any other Dem talked about that, and how is Trump a villain for bringing it to the table, regardless of where his tie is made, or where the trinkets in his gift shops are made



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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 3:20:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Trump products made overseas:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/26/how-many-trump-products-were-made-overseas-heres-the-complete-list/?utm_term=.eacf0194ec8f

Trump apparel

The Donald J. Trump Collection includes ties, suits, dress shirts, eyeglasses and other accessories.

Trump shirts were made in China, Bangladesh, Honduras and Vietnam. PolitiFact Virginia found some Trump sport coats made in India. The Clinton campaign pointed to import data from 2007 that showed a Trump men’s shirt shipment marked as made in South Korea.

Some of the Trump suits on Amazon.com show they were imported, Made in USA or both. BuzzFeed ordered a suit that was listed as both “imported” and “Made in USA” — and ended up with a label showing the suits were made in Indonesia.

Users commented on Amazon.com that the suit that BuzzFeed purchased previously was listed as being imported from Mexico or China. This photo shows a Trump suit that carries a “Made in Mexico” label.

Manufacturing information online is not always reliable — for example, a photo of one shirt shows a “Made in Bangladesh” label, but the item description says it was made in China. This may be a reflection of the different countries that products sometimes pass through before they are ultimately shipped into the United States.

Trump eyeglasses are made in China. Cufflinks and other accessories do not list the source of manufacturing on Amazon.com.

Trump home items

Trump Home has a range of items, including chandeliers, mirrors, bedding, table lamps, cabinets, sofas, barstools, cocktail tables and more.

Trump expanded the Trump Home brand internationally, including in Turkey. A Trump Organization news release shows it partnered with a global luxury furniture brand, Dorya International, to expand the Trump Home brand to a production facility in Turkey. According to Furniture Today, components of the Trump by Dorya furniture were made in Germany, particularly the brass and stainless pieces.

Several Trump Home items are listed as made in China or imported from China — mirrors, ceramic vases, wall decorations, kitchen items and lighting fixtures. The Clinton campaign has pointed to a trademark registration for the Trump Home brand that shows picture frames and other home products were made in India.

The Trump Home by Rogaska tabletop collection featured a crystal and china collection with a company based in Slovenia.

Trump hotel items

Many hotel amenities at Trump’s hotels were manufactured overseas and imported. Trump Hotel pens were made in China or Taiwan, and imported into the United States via South Korea. Shampoo, body wash, moisturizers, shower caps, laundry bags, show bags, pet collars, pet leashes and bath towels at Trump hotels are all listed as made in China.

Trump beverages

Trump Vodka was manufactured at a distillery in the Netherlands, supposedly distilled five times from “European wheat,” but the distribution company stopped carrying it in 2010. An Israeli company continued to carry Trump Vodka, although the version sold in Israel is different from the original Trump Vodka. The Trump Vodka produced and sold in Israel is made from ingredients that make it kosher for Passover, which made it a popular beverage around the holidays. But the Jerusalem Post reported that it turned out that not all ingredients actually were kosher for Passover.

The Bottom Line

We know of at least 12 countries where Trump products were manufactured (China, the Netherlands, Mexico, India, Turkey, Slovenia, Honduras, Germany, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Vietnam and South Korea). Further, Trump products transited other countries through the packaging and shipping process — meaning workers in more than 12 countries contributed to getting many of Trump’s products made, packaged and delivered to the United States.

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What's true, what's false or in-between.

As our inventory shows, manufacturing is a global process. Components of a product of an American company are made in different parts of the world, depending on who offers the most competitive prices, and ultimately imported into the country to be sold to American consumers. It’s not as simple as deciding not to eat an Oreo because Nabisco found a cheaper place to employ some of its workers.

Trump’s practice as a businessman is not consistent with his current rhetoric against trade as a presidential nominee — this vulnerability is backed with more than enough factual evidence. If Trump brand customers took the same stance against his products as he did against Nabisco, it is clear they would be left with few Trump items to buy.

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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 3:31:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are many reports, from news media and other non-news media that demonstrate that Trump caps are outsourced - except the ones he sells from his online campaign shop.

From your post#8: Again, authentic Trump hats are American made. Are you really this dense?
Yet the ones sold on his golf courses and hotel lobbies and other very well-known retailers all across the USA are selling Trump clothing AND official caps that are not made in the USA.

And again, we aren't talking about his future plans - which are irrelevant to this discussion.

Are you now claiming that ALL these authentic caps are all fakes and suddenly not approved for sale by Trump and his PR team??
Street traders I get.
But all his official retail outlets, including his own hotels and clubs??
That's some stretch of the imagination, even for you.


And incidentally, Reuters aren't known for false news FYI.
You might not like it, but it's not false news.


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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 3:56:45 PM   
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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 4:06:48 PM   
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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 4:25:35 PM   
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If we didn't care where things are made we would have voted for your globalist cabal.


The amerikan people did by nearly 3 million.


Everyone is conditioned to ignore tags, as American made is almost impossible to find


Toyota and volkswagen are made in amerika


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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 7:00:49 PM   
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Yep.

There's a store not 5 miles from here that would do it for him . . .

Not hard if it's truly something you value, not just empty words.



Not in the numbers he needed.

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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 7:04:20 PM   
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'It's made in Vietnam!' At inauguration, origin of red Trump hats shocks many

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1542YL?feedType=RSS&feedName=newsOne&google_editors_picks=true

One of the biggest cheers President Donald Trump received from supporters watching his inaugural address on Friday was his call to "buy American and hire American."

It was a moment rich in irony.

Many of those supporters were sporting Trump's trademark red "Make America Great Again" baseball caps that were made in China, Vietnam and Bangladesh.

Some were horrified when they discovered their Trump hats were foreign made.

Rob Walker, 44, who had driven to Washington from Georgia with his wife Abby, 36, had stopped at a truck stop on the way to buy a "Make America Great Again" cap.

"Oh God, I hope it's not made in China," Abby said, flipping the cap over to check. She looked at its label. "China! Don't tell anyone!"

The Trump hats available for purchase on Trump's official campaign website are made in the United States and cost between $25 and $30, according to the label inside those caps.





Cart before the horse. Trump must make it economically feasible to make large numbers of caps in the U.S. before expecting a manufacturer to compete with Chinese or Vietnamese made caps. Cart first. Horse next.

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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 7:19:02 PM   
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Trump’s practice as a businessman is not consistent with his current rhetoric against trade as a presidential nominee — this vulnerability is backed with more than enough factual evidence. If Trump brand customers took the same stance against his products as he did against Nabisco, it is clear they would be left with few Trump items to buy.


Unless he makes it feasible to manufacture in the U.S. again, then one will go out of business making the attempt. Again, one must put the horse in front of the cart.

BTW, I recognize the tie the Secret Service agent in charge wore yesterday as he rode shotgun in the limo carrying President Donald J. Trump. It is the same one I have, the highly popular red and light grey pin strip Trump collection tie. I have enjoyed mine for years. It never goes out of style. Like many things.

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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 7:29:29 PM   
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More fake news

Because he points out that the rules strongly encourage outsourcing and need to be renegotiated, he is supposed to try to compete in that same way that he has pointed out is fruitless

Your Alinsky BS is so last eight years


Yet he stands on a platform, and a slogan of: "buy American and hire American."

What a fucking hypocrite!!!




How's that ? The ones he sells are made here.

T^T

That may be true - but only ones from the online shop.

The ones he sells from his own hotel lobbies and other retail outlets are made in Asia, Bangladesh, India, Turkey, and other non-US countries.

So... not "The ones he sells..", only what he sells from his online campaign shop.



This whole argument that somehow Trump is a hypocrite if he does not immediately begin making his products all in the U.S. is interesting. This is what the OP and supporting arguments espouse. I think you are reaching for something to make the loss more digestible by demonizing the winner of that past election and his supporters. It's over. We have all won. You just cannot understand that the "Outlaw" has triumphed in real life.

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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 7:35:54 PM   
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Do you have a hat?... if so be honest and look at your label and tell us.

Butch



I think that is a question best asked in four years. Don't you? You know I do. It should be a very interesting four years. It already has been an interesting several months, jeeze the guy was making progress even without the office.

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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 7:44:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think I will buy several more ties in the Trump collection to help pay him back for all that money he spent on the campaign. They really are well made. Four years from now I hope they say "made in the U.S.A.". They will if we support him by getting Congress, both houses, to support him in bringing back manufacturing. I suggest some of you think about doing so from now on rather than spinning on the forum.

Anyway, here's one I have had for eight years and it is still in my wardrobe. Even used it cost 35 dollars on ebay. Used!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Donald-Trump-Signature-Collection-100-Silk-Red-White-Mens-Tie-Great-Shape-/232207427773?hash=item3610a428bd:g:a-cAAOSw241Ye9u6

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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 9:21:56 PM   
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RE: Trump hats made in Vietnam -- no buy American here! - 1/21/2017 11:01:11 PM   
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