MrRodgers
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Holocaust(s)...Soviet revolution, WWII and Zionism and all of the rest.
WWII, started by Japan and added to by Germany.
Stalin (Soviets) took out more Russians than Germany did.
I am going to ask you kinkroids to use your brains and if necessary...do your own real homework. Hitler first 'solution' for the Jews was the same as what America did to the American native Indians...reservations.
Evidence of the creation of the 'Jewish Holocaust' David Ben-Gurion: The Zionist bargain with Hitler.....
It has been the age-old intention of Zionism to intentionally stir up anti-Semitism anywhere possible, and even more commonly, to take advantage of any Jewish suffering anywhere in order to enhance its cause Indeed, hatred of Jews and Jewish suffering is the oxygen of the Zionist movement, and from the very beginning has been to deliberately incite hatred of the Jew and then, in feigned horror, use it to justify the existence of the Zionist state – this is, of course, Machiavellianism raised to the highest degree. Thus, the Zionists thrive on hatred and suffering of Jews, and seek to benefit thereby through keeping Jews in perpetual fear, causing them to ignore the true nature of Zionism, and instead to consider the Zionist state is their salvation.
As far as Zionism is concerned, the founder of Zionism and apostate, Theodor Herzl, sought to intensify hatred of the Jew in order to enhance the cause of political Zionism. Here are some of his “pearls”:
“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)
There is a huge amount of literature describing how the Zionists made it very difficult to save Jews during and after World War II. As various individuals and organizations were trying to arrange departures of Jews to western countries, the Zionists worked overtime to prevent this from happening. They expressed the opinion that building up the Jewish population of Palestine was more important than enabling Jews to go to third countries, and they insisted to western powers that Jews should not be accepted anywhere other than Palestine. Indeed, Yitzchak Greenbaum, a famous Zionist, proclaimed that “one cow in Palestine was worth more than all the Jews in Poland.”
The infamous David Ben-Gurion said in 1938:
“If I knew it was possible to save all the children in Germany by taking them to England, and only half of the children by taking them to Eretz Israel, I would choose the second solution. For we must take into account not only the lives of these children but also the history of the people of Israel.”
Moreover, Germany went to war and needed ALL of the slave labor it could get. The use of the term 'death' camp came into vogue because those Jews, Hungarians (gypsies) homosexuals and peasants and all others of which there were many, were captured and taken to camps and eventually died there.
Jews killed by German Reich apparatus during the WW II
.....Gassed in mobile gas vans--700,000 estimated.
.....shot to death by the SS or Police or auxilliaries and others...1.3 millions estimated
.....Gassed in 'death' camps like Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belsen etc....3.0 millions estimated including as many as 1 million or many more...'gassed' after dying from typhus and why the dead and their clothes...had to be burned.
Real so-called death camps are not built with cafeterias, theaters, kidergarden, nurseries, hospitals and soccer fields. The above were.
The Nazis wanted to work all of them...to death.
.....left to die in ghettos and camps due to disease or hunger or both-...1.0 million estimated and by no means, all Jews.
.....grand total of Jews and all others killed, 6 millions estimated and taken as the number murdered by gas or oven alone which was not physically possible but then used by the Zionist to halp get the west to do what ? Create a new state of Israel by dividing Palestine. (look at what's happened since forming the 'new' state of Israel...settlements that if allowed to continue...will wipe Palestine off the map ?
And to think, all of this because of a people that occupied a land, a patch of desert 'given' to them by 'God' and who had done so since 1800 BC (now 3800 years) for only a little more than 400 years.
Dekulakization (Russian: раскулачивание, raskulachivanie, Ukrainian: розкуркулення, rozkurkulennia) was the Soviet campaign of political repressions, including arrests, deportations, and executions of millions of the better-off peasants and their families in 1929–1932.
15 millions dead
'repressed ' i.e. arrested and killed or arrested and sent to Gulag for a long duration or to die. With 18 million arrested out of which 7 million shot, yielding a grand total of people repressed...33 millions, of which 22 million murdered.
Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki...terrible 'offender' at war...tragic but by comparison...footnotes.
Figures above quoted by Allan Bullock on page 551 of his book ' Hitler and Stalin Parallel Lives...Fontana Edition
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