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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 12:15:04 PM   
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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 12:37:36 PM   
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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 12:43:44 PM   
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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 1:14:22 PM   
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Sure disinfoman, quote mining to mischaracterize and misrepresent my points is what losers do as their titanic settles on the bottom.

Btw, on your map, if the red are the german and the blue are polish, your map does not show wielun for some strage reason, but we can triangulate fairly accurately where it is and it appears to be smack in the middle of the lodz division.[/color]




why are you trying to read a map with out knowing how to read it?


The enclosed circle denotes a military force in Bivouac. That is to say, a force in non-permanent structures (tents, trenches, etc).

The box with the word Lodz in it and 4 X's above it is not a Division.
That is an Army... the name inside is the Army name.

Also - that symbol's location does not denote the Army's current location... the 'location' of that army is the interior of the circled area that the symbol is located in.

the Lodz Army was comprised of 5 Infantry Divisions and 2 Cavalry Divisions - these divisions can be denoted on the map (Box with X through it = infantry, Box with slash through it = Cavalry). the Unmarked Division was deployed to Lodz proper in a static Defensive Position (note the boxy line around Lodz).

Wielun is not noted on this map because it is an Order of Battle Map for ground forces - and Wielun is not a target of strategic significance nor a location with any real importance, and thus is omitted.


And here i thought you didn't make stuff up just to benefit your argument...

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 1:15:57 PM   
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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 1:45:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Sure disinfoman, quote mining to mischaracterize and misrepresent my points is what losers do as their titanic settles on the bottom.

Btw, on your map, if the red are the german and the blue are polish, your map does not show wielun for some strage reason, but we can triangulate fairly accurately where it is and it appears to be smack in the middle of the lodz division.




why are you trying to read a map with out knowing how to read it?


The enclosed circle denotes a military force in Bivouac. That is to say, a force in non-permanent structures (tents, trenches, etc).

The box with the word Lodz in it and 4 X's above it is not a Division.
That is an Army... the name inside is the Army name.

Also - that symbol's location does not denote the Army's current location... the 'location' of that army is the interior of the circled area that the symbol is located in.

the Lodz Army was comprised of 5 Infantry Divisions and 2 Cavalry Divisions - these divisions can be denoted on the map (Box with X through it = infantry, Box with slash through it = Cavalry). the Unmarked Division was deployed to Lodz proper in a static Defensive Position (note the boxy line around Lodz).

Wielun is not noted on this map because it is an Order of Battle Map for ground forces - and Wielun is not a target of strategic significance nor a location with any real importance, and thus is omitted.


And here i thought you didn't make stuff up just to benefit your argument...



No, its not shown because the put they symbols on top of it, you are making shit up, no where does it say all cities shown are targets, yet another dishonest debate tactic.

that is a good point though instead of 15-30,000 like I said its closer to 100,000.

so we have no reason to disbelieve boogs that troops were in wielun and your attempted defense falls through again.



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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 2:13:57 PM   
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No, its not shown because the put they symbols on top of it, you are making shit up, no where does it say all cities shown are targets, yet another dishonest debate tactic.

that is a good point though instead of 15-30,000 like I said its closer to 100,000.

so we have no reason to disbelieve boogs that troops were in wielun and your attempted defense falls through again.


You are now claiming 1/10th of the Standing Polish Army at the time was located in a small backwater town that served not tactical or strategic significance. What's more - Despite having such a massively high concentration of troop in the area - NOT A SINGLE ONE suffered so much as even a splinter despite 2/3rds of the location they where staying was obliterated around them.

That is what you're claiming right now?


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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 2:21:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		an army is 80,000+ troops, you are the one implying no one was killed

you are the one who wants us to believe that the german reconnaissance was wrong, despite they were there and you are in your arm chair 100 years later playing army

No one was killed?



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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 2:24:03 PM   
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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 2:36:21 PM   
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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 4:48:23 PM   
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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 5:10:03 PM   
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an army is 80,000+ troops, you are the one implying no one was killed

you are the one who wants us to believe that the german reconnaissance was wrong, despite they were there and you are in your arm chair 100 years later playing army

No one was killed?




No troop was killed in Wielun...
there where no troops in Wielun.

I find this funny because all you can do is personal attacks and deflection... You can't find a single fact that supports your claim because you suck at research... so all you got is snide comments and snarky retorts.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 8:02:52 PM   
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The facts require deductive reasoning and you expect someone to tell you and then when they do like the whore you dont accept it because it doesnt fit the picture you want to see.

Like I said hitler did not have satellites and F22's, the recon was done the day prior, 2 bomb runs prior to dawn, which means it was dark, which means they dropped the bombs in the dark, because it was night and its dark at night, so they had no way to know if they cleared out that same day, day comes after night and they bombed at night, which means they would have been out of the city at night when they bombed when it was dark, then it was day after the night, and it was foggy during the day with only 1km visibility, making the day runs very difficult because they couldnt see beyond 1km because of the fog during the day, which means the pilots could not have known the situation changed, which means the pilots dropped bombs with the belief they were bombing the polish army, because the recon was done the day before not 5 minutes before the bomb run, because you cant do recon at night in the dark, because its dark at night.

Hope that helps clear things up for you a little, since your deductive reasoner seems to be broken.

So what evidence do you have that no one was died?

We now have 2 historians accounts that you have to defeat to raise your titanic off the bottom.


They are using standard nato symbols on your map

division/
legion 10,000–15,000 major general
corps 20,000–40,000 lieutenant general
field army 80,000+ general


it would make sense they would have 1/10th their army on the german border since as we can see the main german offensive took place right through wielun. I dont see a problem with that whats yours?

incidentally wielun was a commercial hub fwiw




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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 10:57:15 PM   
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yeh boring, you played that card already.



all you have is a 1 card deck.
hard to play anything else when that's all draw.


Hey you remember the point i made earlier of how you won't answer the simple question:

What Division?
yeah, you still haven't answered it!

isn't that funny.

You've done your damnedest to avoid that one statement because you know that there is no proof. You've been making shit up, relying on faulty data, and spouting personal attacks, misdirection, and being an evasive little troll because that is all you can do.

You can't even do simple research to come up with a half way decent counter point...

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 11:03:44 PM   
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cant you read your own map?

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 11:10:51 PM   
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there is noth8ing to counterpoint, you are going in circles, rerun replay.
cant you read your own map?


so you're saying the Lodz Army was stationed in Wielun?
is that what you're going with?

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/25/2017 11:24:27 PM   
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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/26/2017 5:03:33 AM   
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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/26/2017 8:36:05 AM   
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you wouldnt post a fake map would you?



The map is Real...
But it is not beneath me to post a map with limited information because i know that your level of retardation will misread it and proceed in twisting facts to best fit your delusion.

An intelligent person would read the information in the top right...
German Order of Battle.

Notice how it very accurately displays the Divisions of the German Side... yet for the Polish side, it has limited information - with certain areas being labeled simply how many divisions where there... such as near Kutno, Wyszkow, and Sandomiorz simply stating '2 Divs'. This is because this map represents the German side based on intel and data held by German High Command at that time. This map was made by the US Army for their Military Academy as a visual aid to analyse the strategy of the Nazi Invasion to understand why it was so successful to future officers and generals.


If we simply look up a Polish Order of Battle...
we get this:


This displays the known divisions of the Polish Side based on intel and deployment information of the Polish Army at the time.

Now if you notice - there is an Infantry Division directly South of Wielun...

That is the 28th Infantry Division, which had Regiments spread out between the Warta River and Kepno along the Border.

During Sept. 1st, The regiments of the 28th Infantry Div. where pushed north, where they eventually halted the Advance of the 1st Light Division of the German 10th Army. Eventually this Division was pushed back to behind the Warta near Wielun... but by the time that happened, Wielun was already smoldering ruins.

At the onset of hostilities, there was no military forces near Wielun. There was some Infantry regiments between the Border and Wielun, but nothing in Wielun proper.

Now - while i know you're still going to claim this as a victory for you because there was a military unit which is 'close enough' in your mind...
Remember my question:
What Division? What Brigade?

And considering that you JUST claimed that the Entire Lodz Army was Stationed IN Wielun, you have now just been proven incorrect.

And because you'll probably fall back to it - your citation Boog - specifically claims that there was a Cavalry Brigade in Wielun...
Except there wasn't cavalry anywhere near there.

the Wołyńska Cavalry Brigade was stationed well South East of Wielun and was actually apart of the Battle of Mokra, and the only other Calvary Brigade was the Kresy Cavalry Brigade - which was stationed in reserve Behind Lodz.

This is supported in the Polish Order of Battle Map, One cavalry unit (a box with a Slash and 1 'X' above it) is marked as north of Czestochowa, and the second unit is marked as East of Lodz.

And considering that you JUST claimed that the Entire Lodz Army was Stationed IN Wielun.


So both You and your Citation have been proven incorrect.
Now - go and the only thing you can do... deflect, evade, insult. Dance like the little monkey you are because your little brain can't handle anything more complex then that.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 3/26/2017 9:04:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		nice try! Bravo for your valiant efforts to save your titanic! You deserve a congressional medal of dishonor.

there are no dates or times on the map, you have come to false conclusions AGAIN.

It does nothing to contradict the recon that spotted them in the city the day prior to bombing, where if none were hit LATER that night means THEY LEFT the city before bombs were dropped, just like when the US tried to hit Osamamamamamama bin laden and oops too late hes gone already and they had satellites and F22's.

Whatever you do dont ever try to prove anything in court because you will get your ass handed to you in spades.

No killed soldiers does prove polish soldiers were not in the city at the time of the recon actions.




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