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InfoMan -> RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust (3/28/2017 9:05:47 AM)
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haha, bringing statements into doubt only set the stage for a trial to determine the facts, however you have NOT brought enough evidence to the table to do that.
simply standing on your soapbox yelping that boogs has to be wrong because he does not have a title 'Dr polish troop movement specialist' is ludicrous to imply he is not qualified to simply state what he read on a recon report, and you with handicapped comprehension, an internet keyboard commando come out here with outdated maps, no dates or times, who has never seen record one think you should rule the day shows how bent you have become to ignore the facts. It is britain and the US that had the terror bombing policy and they bragged about it no less. I have not seen anything to date that hitler had any such policy, which is not to say it never happened, though it would make sense after the brits started targetting civilians which of course is and always has been illegal.
One thing we can be assured of is using the same standards you use on boogs back on you makes you unqualified to even have an opinion.
And now you're making baseless assumptions.
I have yet to ignore Any fact...
I've actually be quiet keen on keeping an open mind to this all.
You're the one being ignorant, facetious, and aggressively close minded to outside opinions and statements that go in countenance to you're narrow perspective of the world.
What's the point of even talking to you when you cannot answer the simple question?
'What Brigade? What Division? What Airplane? What Court?'
It is laughable that you use so many words to say so little because all you can manage to do is lash out at people like an imputent welpling. Deflection, Evasion, Personal Attacks, and ignorance... Dance for your peanuts monkey... it's all you're good for.
Truth be told - i'm only continuing this discussion to identify if you're a troll that is just arguing to argue or if you're legitimately this incompetent and believe the shit that you're spouting.
We have a couple of ww2 historians who has reviewed the official recon info compared to you a total zero nobody who cant even argue the point.
You whine that I call you ignorant when you ask stupid questions like which airplane brigade division name rank and serial numbers and conduct a head count and what they had for breakfast and conduct a poll to find out their favorite polish joke all of which is entirely irellevant because you expect the recon pilot should have gotten out and interviewed the boots on the ground and interrogated them before reporting them to the wing commander. You are having a serious nirvana attack, same as you had when you proved that its impossible for the jews to prove anyone was gassed, I had a good laugh at that one too.
Simple they were in the town during the day and left before the bomb run that night. No reaso to doubt boogs. sorry try again
It isn't a stupid question - it is actually a legitimate question.
What's more - The Standard is created IN YOUR OWN CITATION. it it so important, mind you, that your sources and historians do provide such information when they speak about things they're talking about:
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German aviation historian Horst Boog claims that a Polish cavalry brigade and a Polish infantry division had been located in the town by German reconnaissance the day before the attack. From reports of Luftflotte 4, 2nd Air Division, I./Sturzkampfgeschwader 76 and I./Sturzkampfgeschwader 77 he concludes that the bomb attacks had been directed against these military formations and can therefore not be considered terror bombings. Due to ground fog, he argues, the German pilots missed their targets and mistakenly bombed the town.[7] British aviation historian Peter C. Smith[8] too, describes the bombing as collateral damage from bombs that missed their targets during ground support of the Wehrmacht operations.[8] Polish historian Jerzy B. Cynk, author of The Polish Air Force at War. The official history 1939-1943, wrote about the events: "Numerous direct support missions were also flown, with the heaviest attacks directed against the Polish cavalry and troop concentrations at Wielun."[9]
At 13:00 a German dive bomber wing, I./StG 2 led by Major Oskar Dinort via Nieder-Ellguth, were directed against this unit, followed a few hours later by Schwarzkopff with sixty Ju 87 Stukas of I./Sturzkampfgeschwader 77[8] Weather conditions were unfavourable during the day, with a visibility of only one kilometre and a practically closed layer of fog at 50 metres altitude.[10] Fog, mist and poor visibility thwarted many of the Luftwaffe's sorties planned for the morning of the first day of the invasion.[10] The dive bombers, facing intense anti aircraft fire, inflicted heavy losses on the Polish cavalry, and the advance was turned into a rout by 90 Stukas.[8] On their return home, four of the German Junkers Ju 87 bombers were shot down by the Polish 36 Academic Legion Infantry Regiment stationed nearby.[8] Three waves of attacks were carried out during the day.[8] The town was captured by the German Army on the first day of the invasion.[8]
They name relevant Divisions, Air Groups, Squadrons, Flight Wings, Lead Pilots, and even a polish Regiment that shot at them...
So how come they don't reference the Recon group which provided the information or The specific Division or Cavalry Brigade that they bomb?
Your citation set the ground work for this string of questioning to be used, making it an entirely relevant counter point - which again - you fail to counter and refuse to acknowledge.
In fact - that seems to be the status quo for you... The instant you're confronted with facts that you cannot counter - you downplay it's significance and play all evasively and stop arguing the points and instead argue that you don't need to argue those points. It speaks very much so to an incompetent troll to be honest...
For instance: Frampol.
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