jlf1961
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Bosco, what is your degree in?
For that matter, did you even attend college?
Do you even know any Muslims?
Have you ever read the entire Koran? Or just the parts that have been picked out of context?
What I have been posting is not "pulled out of my ass" it is from a two degrees in history, with minors in anthropology, as well as a shit ton of hours in comparative religion classes.
Historically, Mohammad had men executed for killing women and children.
Allah is no more or less than Arabic for God you pin headed moron.
You might actually do yourself a favor and do a bit of research independent of extreme right wing websites, hell take a course in a reputable college on comparative religion, and you will be surprised to learn that half the shit you are being told is just that, shit.
Let me try to make this simple.
The two main branches of Islam are Shia and Sunni, Sunni being the majority.
Sunni Muslims believed that the followers of the prophet were to elect his successor, and strictly follow the Koran and shia laws, and make up the largest number of extremists.
However, the extremist Sunni also believe that the Sunni who do not follow their way are apostates, which brings me to the next point.
The extremist Sunni follows what is known as Salafism, or ultra conservative Islam, which developed in the mid to late 18th century, as a way to deal with European expansionism into the Middle East and Arabic countries.
Outside of killing Shia, they also hold that Kurds, Turks, and Armenians are second class humans, Europeans are infidels and thus all should be killed without remorse or regret. They will admit that Mohammad condemned the killing of anyone who were "people of the book," but justify their actions simply by saying that Mohammad did not truly give the word of Allah in an attempt to get support from non Muslims.
During the period after the first world war, this movement gained momentum because the saw the European governors of the Middle East as being corrupt (they were right) and prejudiced against what they believed to be the true followers of Islam (Sunni.)
The shit really hit the fan when the Shia did not take up arms in a big way against the Jews when Israel was formed by UN mandate, so the Shia got one more strike against them.
As a non-Muslim based example, I give you the philosophy used by the United States in dealing with the Native Americans, basically that the were heathens and savages and if they did not become Americanized and Christian, they should be eradicated with utmost speed.
Hitler's own final solution was partially based (to gain support) was that the Jews biggest crime was the denial of Christ, along with other points gleaned from a publication known as the Articles of Zion.
That covers the Sunni.
The Shia believe that Mohammad's son in law was his appointed successor, and the legitimate Caliph of the people of Islam. They were then and still are the minority.
And while there are Shia based extremist groups, for the most part they tend to fight Sunni's with occasional attacks on Israel, with the reason being the fact that Israel refuses to accept that the Muslims have been in the holy land for almost as long as they have.
However, if you were to take the time to sit down and talk to someone of either sect, they will tell you that, for the most part, they would prefer if the west would keep their nose out of their squabbles and let them solve them themselves.
While you continue to spout on about how Muslims want to take over the world, you seem to forget that Saudi Arabia is a Muslim country that has supported the United States in every conflict we have been involved in since its founding. Every time that OPEC has tried to jack the price of oil to the point that it would cause serious problems in the US, Saudi Arabia has either voted against the measure or lowered the price of Saudi crude and increased production above the Opec set quota, effectively negating the move by OPEC.
Saudi Arabia is the Second largest Sunni country in the world.
And considering that the majority of oil the US imports comes from Saudi and Kuwaiti oil fields, if they wanted to knock us out of the game, all they would have to do is stop selling us oil.
And before you go off about we would invade, consider this.
If we were to invade Saudi Arabia for their oil, our military would have to guard those fields against attacks from 4.5 million pissed off Saudi men.
It cant be done.
Or the Saudi's and Kuwaiti oil workers could blow the production facilities and make the invasion useless. It would take 30 years to get those fields producing again, and with people trying to kill the oil field workers, it would be impossible.
Once you and the rest of the Islamophobic idiots get it through your heads we are dealing with less than 2% of the Islamic world when it comes to terrorists, the better off we would be.
And, consider this, at its height of power, ISIS could have easily sponsored serious attacks in the US, and did not, focusing on dealing with the Muslims in the countries they were trying to take over.
The few attacks by ISIS supporters in the states had zero long reaching results other than getting some stupid liberal law makers to start screaming 'gun control.'
So, do your self a favor, stop being spoon fed by the talking heads and think for yourself. Now granted that is an ability that most Republicans and Democrats seem to have lost over the last thirty years, or at least since the advent of the 24 hour news cycle and the internet.
And as I pointed out in another post.
Everything said about Muslims today is identical to what was said about Soviet Russians, and before them, the Japanese after Pearl Harbor.
Finally, consider this little fact.
The US military learned in Vietnam that you cannot effectively fight an insurgent force. When the guy bringing you coffee in the mess hall could also be the same guy that will throw a satchel charge in your barracks, you are screwed.
If there were as many ISIS or Al Qaeda terrorist cells in the US as claimed by some on FOX and other news outlets, the only way to deal with them would be martial law and there would be bombings on a nearly daily basis.
Especially since the guys teaching these individuals how to make home made explosives were men trained by the best, i.e the CIA, US Army etc when we were training Afghans to kill Soviets.
The use of airliners in the 9/11 attacks was originally a plan to take out targets in Moscow, developed by the CIA between 80 and 88. They figured out it had a snowball's chance in hell of working because every plane flying to Moscow had at least 6 KGB agents on board.
The suicide bomb belt was developed by the VC in the Vietnam war, first against the French then the Americans, and it is probably older than that.
However, hypothetically, IF all Muslims are out to kill every non Muslim, then, how in the hell do you propose to eliminate close to 6 billion men, women and children?
I think the term that applies is genocide.
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