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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I don't love innocent Muslims killed anywhere. Because I'm a human being.

They were killed by a white Christian Muslim-hating Trump fan. What's wrong with THAT picture?

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

The only Americans I have seen committing violence and calling for violence are on the left - here on collarchat, at Trump rallies and at his inauguration, riots around the country... Which reminds me of the saying, "If you want to know what the left is up to, pay attention to what they accuse you of."

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You ever notice how bigots like dkman make up little fantasies about what conservatives are thinking and it's always bigoted. They really believe the bigots aren't themselves.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Gee, Bosco, how about:

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. John 15.

Of course there were a ton of Christian Martyrs, and we know to be a martyr, you basically have to die.

The Crusaders were 'holy' warriors, and if they died, they had a guaranteed place in heaven, all sins absolved, no chance at hell and all that.

Guess that is different because they were christians, right?

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

The only Americans I have seen committing violence and calling for violence are on the left - here on collarchat, at Trump rallies and at his inauguration, riots around the country... Which reminds me of the saying, "If you want to know what the left is up to, pay attention to what they accuse you of."

You ever notice how bigots like dkman make up little fantasies about what conservatives are thinking and it's always bigoted. They really believe the bigots aren't themselves.

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In many places they are all gone. You are a moron if you really believe that Afghanistan, for example, which is now 99% Muslim, has always been a Muslim country. Islam only started in the middle 600s!

In some, they are still being slaughtered, and not "just" Christians and Jews. Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists, all non-Muslims - gone.

Afghanistan? 1400 years ago? What! Did it even exist?

Still being slaughtered in some? Everybody is being slaughtered in the ME, including Muslims. What is the genesis of this strife? Is it the Islamic religion? Or can it be the British betrayal of the Arabs in 1918 and again by the Balfour Declaration? could it be by the continuing colonization and suppression of Palestine by the Zionists? The overthrow of the Iranian PM by CIA and MI6 in 1953? US troops in Saudi Arabia in 1991? The US unprovoked and illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003? The relentless drone strikes this past eight years? Our current troops on the ground in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, and Somalia?

Your Islamophobia blinds you to the realities of our world.

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he Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

Yeah, right. Put these in context with the battles that Mohammad was having with opposition forces in Mecca and you will see that they were prescriptions for the times and local events not for universal applicatiPut these in context with the battles that Mohammad was having with opposition forces in Mecca and you will see that they were prescriptions for the times and local events not for universal application. You have been drinking the kool aid of right wing extremists here and from Islamic extremists over there. You are echoing the cry of fear mongering, natavist Islamophobes. A foolish tool is what you are.

"...the Prophet’s teachings are valid and obligatory upon all of humankind. That is, his example and teaching was not simply for the people of Arabia at his time. Rather, it is just as valid and just as important for each and every Muslim today, whether he be in New York or Malaysia."

By whose proclamation?

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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You ever notice how bigots like dkman make up little fantasies about what conservatives are thinking and it's always bigoted. They really believe the bigots aren't themselves.

Actually, I haven't in fact noticed that, Nnanji, probably on account of it's bollocks. :)

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Insane, blindly partisan morons who see violence...fantasy projections of his hate onto conservatives.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Insane, blindly partisan morons who see violence...fantasy projections of his hate onto conservatives.

Yeah, you'd have to be pretty stupid to assume that the Trump-supporter who shot up a mosque has anything in common with the Trump supporters who are constantly declaring that Muslims are the enemy and want us all dead.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Gee, Bosco, how about:

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. John 15.

Of course there were a ton of Christian Martyrs, and we know to be a martyr, you basically have to die.

The Crusaders were 'holy' warriors, and if they died, they had a guaranteed place in heaven, all sins absolved, no chance at hell and all that.

Guess that is different because they were christians, right?

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

There are several sources. Here's one.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/quebec-city-mosque-shooting-latest-alexandre-bissonnette-donald-trump-marine-le-pen-facebook-social-a7554451.html

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...as well as (a fan of) Canada's left-wing New Democratic Party

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Gee, Bosco, how about:

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. John 15.

Of course there were a ton of Christian Martyrs, and we know to be a martyr, you basically have to die.

The Crusaders were 'holy' warriors, and if they died, they had a guaranteed place in heaven, all sins absolved, no chance at hell and all that.

Guess that is different because they were christians, right?

the attempt at an equivalence here is absurd.

john 15:12 is an admonition to sacrificial love based on the life of Christ and his upcoming death.

Christian martyrs died at the hands of oppressors because of their adherence to Christian principles/fidelity to christ.

in neither case are the Christians promised heaven as a result of their actions (dying). and in neither case do they take innocent lives in their own deaths.

as far as the crusades go, it was that sort of church absolution that lead to the reformation. that teaching came from a worldly, if not corrupt church, not the scriptures.

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Insane, blindly partisan morons who see violence...fantasy projections of his hate onto conservatives.

Yeah, you'd have to be pretty stupid to assume that the Trump-supporter who shot up a mosque has anything in common with the Trump supporters who are constantly declaring that Muslims are the enemy and want us all dead.

Where is your source that he is a Trump supporter? Other than he shot Muslims? You do know that more Muslims are shot by other Muslims than by any other group. Ever hear of honor killings

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i know this---as I look back over the months and years of posts, there are some people who have stayed, and many others who come and go. assuming to some extent many of us are still here many months and years from now, I hope the hysteria will have long since died down.

its mind numbing but you know, at the same time, it's really showing the comrades for who/what they are.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

i know this---as I look back over the months and years of posts, there are some people who have stayed, and many others who come and go. assuming to some extent many of us are still here many months and years from now, I hope the hysteria will have long since died down.

its mind numbing but you know, at the same time, it's really showing the comrades for who/what they are.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
hahahahdumbfuck...
hes a right wing extremist terrorist. the muslim chap is going to be called as a witness, he was not involved.

Lucy, as usual, you miss the fucking point.

The issue here is that the Islamic suspect is barely mentioned. The race to paint a white man as a perpetrator is in stark contrast to the "we need to wait and see" approach taken whenever a Muslim commits a terrorist act.

Pointing out that sectarian violence is a hallmark of the Muslim faith is just explaining reality to you. Because you seem to have a problem with it.

Also, you have a problem with grammar, spelling and thinking, but let's not belabour your list of faults.

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Yeah, you'd have to be pretty stupid to assume that the Trump-supporter who shot up a mosque has anything in common with the Trump supporters who are constantly declaring that Muslims are the enemy and want us all dead.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Oy Cupid Stunt....read the fucking news

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/quebec-mosque-shooting-suspect-to-appear-in-court-monday-afternoon
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/01/30/who-is-alexandre-bissonnette-the-suspect-at-the-centre-of-the-quebec-shooting.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-alexandre-bissonnette-profile-1.3959581

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As you HAVE to bring up my lazy morning grammar etc, it shows just what a twat you are, and how lousy your argument is.

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The closest you have been to a terrorist attack is your armchair, fuck off about sectarian violence, half wit.