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Awareness -> Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 9:56:51 AM)

While noting the vastly inflated numbers for the Pussy March - and the breathless hyperbolic commentary which felt getting a million women WORLDWIDE to bitch and complain about something simultaneously was an achievement - I came across another example of how Leftist offense culture is inherently unsustainable.

It seems the transgender lobby has their knickers in a twist over the Pussy Hats. Because apparently this discriminates against women without vaginas.

Now, leaving aside the appalling stupidity of that sentiment, this is a fascinating example of how offense and victimisation culture is eating itself. Essentially, any expression of identity is held to be an offense against a marginalised group of some people, somewhere. Intersectional feminism is essentially an attempt to bring the transgender lobby into the victimisation fold after decades of anti-trans advocacy by leading feminists.

Point is, this race to the bottom of the victimisation pyramid can only lead to bickering and infighting on an ongoing basis. And it's notable that its the ostensibly least powerful group - the trans community - which is most intently focused on controlling language. And - as Orwell pointed out - by controlling language, you control thought.

I wonder at what point, the unrepentant Leftists will begin to unravel over this. You cannot continue to allow groups which assume victim-hood to control the language of the majority. That path leads to a Trump presidency. Clinton's unpopularity is one thing, but the obsessive attempt to control language, culture and bathrooms is a significant contributor to the reality of Trump in office.

Failing to realise that, will keep the Left out of power. Bernie Sanders is the last hope of the Democrats this side of 2030. I think some people on the Right understand this - and certainly there are moderates on the Left who do. I just wonder if any of the vitriol-spewing hatemongers amongst the regressive Left are even close to understanding why they lost. Most of them are still crying in their soup and blaming racist white men.

And that's a problem, because America needs a more balanced, centrist approach. The Right's focus on kowtowing to money and the Left's focus on promoting victimhood culture are both dangerous, irresponsible pieces of insanity which endanger the health and success of our Western societies.

I guess my question is: Is anybody on the extreme Left coming to their fucking senses?




bounty44 -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 12:48:09 PM)

addressing your last line---based on experiences and observations here, the answer's a resounding no.

meanwhile, as concerns pussy hats---the expression "if im wrong i'll eat my hat" comes to mind but I cannot quite figure out how to work the two together for a joke...




MrRodgers -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 1:03:13 PM)

Look man, Trump won the electoral college and unfortunately for the dems (twice in 16 years)...that's enough.

Trump got the white farm boy to get his ass to the poll and vote because of the shit he spewed...that's how he won. (the EC)

He didn't win on policy issues, he didn't win the debates, he didn't win the argument and he didn't win a plurality.

He won in states where there are the fewest voters per EC vote allowed.




vincentML -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 1:47:19 PM)

The race to the bottom of the victimization pyramid is exhibited in this forum by the phony proclamation of white male victim hood. You whiny pansies achieved that distinction. Congratulations to all the moronic boys who joined in the charade.




bounty44 -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 2:09:57 PM)

and your post addresses anything I said how exactly?




heavyblinker -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 3:35:20 PM)

Oh right, because everyone in the US who leans left is currently rallying around some tiny tiny minority of feminists who think pussy hats are discriminatory.

Is it even possible for the RWNJs to create a thread that doesn't include getting upset about non-issues that have been blown up by right wing Men's Rights blogs or whatever?

So hey, I guess since everyone on this board supports that guy who shot up that church, we should impose a global Trump-supporter ban until we can figure out what's going on.

I'm also 100% certain that what the average RWNJ would consider center/moderate would make me laugh.




Aylee -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 7:22:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Look man, Trump won the electoral college and unfortunately for the dems (twice in 16 years)...that's enough.

Trump got the white farm boy to get his ass to the poll and vote because of the shit he spewed...that's how he won. (the EC)

He didn't win on policy issues, he didn't win the debates, he didn't win the argument and he didn't win a plurality.

He won in states where there are the fewest voters per EC vote allowed.


So you think that the policies that Trump campaigned on had NOTHING to do with "getting out the vote"? Wow.




jlf1961 -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 7:38:53 PM)

Personally I would love it if those on the extreme left and extreme right woke up and came to their senses.

Dont see it happening any time in the near or distant future, but it would be nice to wake up, open a paper and found that they were keeping track of days that neither side told the other one to fuck off, and worked together to solve the country's problems.





heavyblinker -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 7:43:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Look man, Trump won the electoral college and unfortunately for the dems (twice in 16 years)...that's enough.

Trump got the white farm boy to get his ass to the poll and vote because of the shit he spewed...that's how he won. (the EC)

He didn't win on policy issues, he didn't win the debates, he didn't win the argument and he didn't win a plurality.

He won in states where there are the fewest voters per EC vote allowed.


So you think that the policies that Trump campaigned on had NOTHING to do with "getting out the vote"? Wow.


Apparently you can get out the vote by telling people it's okay to be fascist.




tamaka -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 7:49:45 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Look man, Trump won the electoral college and unfortunately for the dems (twice in 16 years)...that's enough.

Trump got the white farm boy to get his ass to the poll and vote because of the shit he spewed...that's how he won. (the EC)

He didn't win on policy issues, he didn't win the debates, he didn't win the argument and he didn't win a plurality.

He won in states where there are the fewest voters per EC vote allowed.


So you think that the policies that Trump campaigned on had NOTHING to do with "getting out the vote"? Wow.


Apparently you can get out the vote by telling people it's okay to be fascist.


Well it's ok to be anything else these days so...




DaddySatyr -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 7:56:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

So you think that the policies that Trump campaigned on had NOTHING to do with "getting out the vote"? Wow.



This was the only election in which I have ever voted where I was, essentially, a "one issue voter".

Forgetting how much I hated Hillary Cunton, I knew the only way to protect my religious freedom, right to own a weapon (or four), and to have any hope at not becoming legally (institutionally) marginalized in my own country was to hope and pray that the candidate for whom I voted appointed the correct Supreme Court justice.

I'd like to thank Harry Reid and the other short-sighted Dimocrats for helping to grease the skids for Judge Gorsuch's confirmation.



Michael




Greta75 -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 8:01:39 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness
It seems the transgender lobby has their knickers in a twist over the Pussy Hats. Because apparently this discriminates against women without vaginas.


Yea, I still stand by that a woman without a vagina is not a woman.






stef -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 10:02:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Yea, I still stand by that a woman without a vagina is not a woman.

What about a women who pees from her vagina?




tamaka -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 10:29:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: stef


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

Yea, I still stand by that a woman without a vagina is not a woman.

What about a women who pees from her vagina?



Unlike stef, who pees out of her mouth.




Lucylastic -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 10:43:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka
Unlike stef, who pees out of her mouth.


That really is a poor choice of words
Puking, or spewing and shitting out of your mouth is possible, biologically.

Peeing is literally impossible, pee has no direct route back to the mouth...and unless you have a physical problem which would have shown up way before now, you cant pee outta your ass.

Sheesh
at least choose your body parts correctly.[8|]




tamaka -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 10:46:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka
Unlike stef, who pees out of her mouth.


That really is a poor choice of words
Puking, or spewing and shitting out of your mouth is possible, biologically.

Peeing is literally impossible, pee has no direct route back to the mouth...and unless you have a physical problem which would have shown up way before now, you cant pee outta your ass.

Sheesh
at least choose your body parts correctly.[8|]


I know. It was pretty bad... lol




stef -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 10:46:31 PM)

Aww, did I make poor tardsocka mad?




tamaka -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 10:47:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: stef

Aww, did I make poor tardsocka mad?

Yes.




Greta75 -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 10:54:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stef
quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75
Yea, I still stand by that a woman without a vagina is not a woman.

What about a women who pees from her vagina?

I still stand by women pees out of her vagina. You guys are just being idiotic about it.

The urethra is literally inside the vagina and part of the vagina.

I tell ya, when I bleed, and I pee, clumps of blood comes out mix with my pee. And my pee is even bloody mix with my menstruation blood.

So if I am bleeding from my vagina and my pee gets mix with my blood. How is it not coming out of the vagina? If they are so separated like you guys say. My tampon shouldn't get soaked with pee WHEN I pee since it's up my vagina! But it always does! Maybe my vagina is built differently from you guys! I always gotta change my tampon after I pee.

And how the hell do you have a pee hole without a vagina?





stef -> RE: Offense culture is eating itself (1/31/2017 10:57:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

I still stand by women pees out of her vagina. You guys are just being idiotic about it.

The urethra is literally inside the vagina and part of the vagina.


No, it literally isn't, you fucking idiot.




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