jlf1961
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961 13 “ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. Leviticus 20:13 Straight from the bible, however, most Christians, and Christian countries do not enforce it, though there are some extremists that do. That's because everything changed with Jesus Christ. Christians have a new set of rules to live by. Except, tamaka, that there are those extremists that use that to justify the murder of gays and lesbians. For that matter, there are at least two new testament versus that condone the killing of non-Christians. Luke 19:27: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. As well as Matthew 10:34: Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Then there are the new testament versus condoning slavery Epheisans 6:5-8 5 vBondservants,1 obey your earthly masters2 with fear and trembling, wwith a sincere heart, xas you would Christ, 6 not by the way of eye-service, as ypeople-pleasers, but as bondservants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart, 7 rendering service with a good will as to the Lord and not to man, 8 zknowing that whatever good anyone does, this he will receive back from the Lord, awhether he is a bondservant or is free. The point is, that Christianity is just as susceptible to being perverted to violence, and racism, as an example the following: “And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying; Send her away; for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs. And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table. Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.” Matthew 15:22-8 The section of the passage I highlighted has long been used to justify racism by the white supremacist Christians. While the lesson is the whole passage, they use a part of the passage taken out of context simply by ignoring the entire message. Which is the point I have been trying to make about Islamic extremists. Which is to say, they follow the philosophy as set down by the Khawarij that appeared in the first century of Islam, and preached by Sayyid Qutb. As far as he and those that follow his teachings, 90% of modern Muslims and everyone else is worthy only of death as unbelievers. You might want to compare his philosophy to that of the Jesuits and their Inquisition, the Persecution of the Cathars, and the entire war promoted by the Catholic church on Protestants. For that matter, I have had Baptists as well as members of the Church of Christ tell me I am going to hell for being a Catholic. It is for this reason that I figure my relationship to God is between me and him, with no priest, preacher, monk, nun, minister or anyone else between us. And historically speaking, every prophet since Adam has pretty much said basically the same thing and everyone of them have had their words twisted to justify a lot of inhumane and violent actions on the part of their followers. So I figure there are going to be a lot of people get a major wake up when they hit the pearly gates.
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Boy, it sure would be nice if we had some grenades, don't you think? You cannot control who comes into your life, but you can control which airlock you throw them out of. Paranoid Paramilitary Gun Loving Conspiracy Theorist AND EQUAL OPPORTUNI
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